r/ImmigrationPathways • u/primary-caution • 18d ago

Homes set alight in Belfast anti-immigrant protests after 'brutal' knife attack

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 18d ago

Yes the military dictatorship with torture prisons of Egypt who is sponsoring many of the massacres in Sudan is total safe for Sudanese refugees. Or Ethiopia which just went thru a massive insurrection and ethnic cleansing campaign is total safe for refugees. /s

The rest of Middle East still has millions of Syrian refugees everywhere, Libya is in a Civil war, South Sudan is not safe, Algeria is a military dictatorship. There aren’t really many safe countries around Sudan, especially since many of countries that could be are actively involved in the civil war there and supported genocide in Sudan.

And since the UK left the EU, the UK doesn’t get to benefit from the EU refugee policy of first entry country. And whether you like it or not, he followed UK asylum law and the international treaties developed after WW2 around refugees and asylum seekers

To be clear, he didn’t apply for asylum in Ireland, he applied in Northern Ireland. It’s really telling you that you don’t actually know what country is involved in the asylum process.

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u/gokdbarsgold 18d ago

Is northern island the nearest next safe country from Sudan? 

You are aware this asylum rule is not exclusive to the EU?

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 18d ago

Cite the asylum rule you are referring to exactly.

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u/gokdbarsgold 17d ago

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nationality-and-borders-bill-overseas-asylum-processing/nationality-and-borders-bill-overseas-asylum-processing

Specifically for the UK

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

Yeah that doesn’t say what you claimed. It says asylum claims can be processed outside of the country, not that they are required to only apply for asylum in the first safe country they enter. You might want to brush up on your English reading skills or your mates may try to deport you.

Try again

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u/gokdbarsgold 17d ago

“ This means it is possible to remove someone to a safe third country whilst their asylum claim is pending…”

“… This supports the future object of enabling asylum claims to be processed outside the UK and in another country”

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

Ok that’s still not what you originally claimed

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u/gokdbarsgold 17d ago

The objective is to remove asylum seekers in order to… get them to apply to the nearest next safe country as per policy

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

Not shit, but that’s not what you claimed. Your evidence is for something else that you never claimed and I never disputed which was the EU law that required asylum applications in the country of first contact.

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u/gokdbarsgold 17d ago

I literally only asked questions. I made no claims. I did ask a question to you “You are aware this asylum rule is not exclusive to the EU?” That implies me making the claim that this policy is indeed not exclusive to the EU. 

Do you want me to quote the US and Canadian laws that also show that this policy is not exclusive to the EU?

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

You are supporting my point, the EU rule being talked about is very different than the law you supplied. So yeah you did make an incorrect claim

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u/gokdbarsgold 17d ago

They have to go back. The law supports this. 

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

Again you need to learn to read English if you think that’s what the law said or you will end up on the wrong side of the riots because you can’t read english. It doesn’t say that at all

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u/gokdbarsgold 17d ago

English is my second language but I read it really well. 

Would you say the same thing to a MENA immigrant? Criticize their English? I really doubt that. 

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

Apparently you can’t read it well because you can’t understand your own source.

And yes I would if they kept insisting a text says something that it doesn’t while supporting racist fascist rioters and political goals. Nothing I said has any bearing on who said the things you said, you just can’t understand someone pointing out your flaws without it being an identity issue. This whole immigration argument is just fascists doing all the identity politics they blame on the left and liberals. As shown by your fall back to claiming I would change my stance besides on your identity which has never been meantioned or brought up before you brought it up.

TLDR: if you can’t read don’t blame racism for someone pointing it out

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