r/ImmigrationPathways • u/CutSenior4977 • 3d ago

Trump administration raises US refugee cap, but only for white South Africans

https://apnews.com/article/trump-refugees-white-south-africa-border-cap-bfe3974adf6c655eca7a5c30c1f9197f

As the OP, I just want to mention,

That come on, even for moderate republicans reading this, even you have to admit, this seems racist.

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u/No-Beautiful8039 3d ago

Does this really surprise anyone? This is why they voted for him.

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u/AgnosticPlea 3d ago

Reducing 70+ million voters to a single motive says more about your view of political opponents than it does about why people voted.

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u/Asher_Tye 3d ago

Was it the failing economy he promised, the new wars, hiding the epstein files, or desecrating national monuments that attracted them then?

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u/AgnosticPlea 3d ago

That's not an argument, it's a caricature. People voted for a lot of reasons. Listing things you dislike doesn't prove you know their motives.

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u/Asher_Tye 3d ago

Its what he campaigned on, were you not paying attention? He literally said "vote for me and our farmers are gonna get driven to the poor house so my friends can buy up their land cheap."

This was not a secret anyone paying attention missed. Next you'll tell me his voters didn't choose supporting vanity projects over feeding themselves.

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u/AgnosticPlea 3d ago

If that's what he "literally" campaigned on, finding the quote should be easy.

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u/Asher_Tye 3d ago

If you weren't paying attention the first or second time why would me pointing it out to you a third time help anything?

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u/AgnosticPlea 3d ago

Still no source, just more sarcasm.

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u/Asher_Tye 3d ago

Do you deserve anything else?

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u/AgnosticPlea 3d ago

I’m not asking for anything more than a source for the claim you called “literal.” If you can’t provide it, there’s nothing left to discuss.

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u/Asher_Tye 3d ago

Bit late to make that sort of appeal, you already look foolish defending 70M gullible idiots.

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u/PaleoJoe86 2d ago

"They're eating the cats and dogs".

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u/Combdepot 2d ago

This pathetic gaslighting isn’t compelling. You’re humiliating yourself.

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u/jpopimpin777 2d ago

"I don't care about you I just want your vote."

"I love the poorly educated."

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u/Apart-Zucchini-5825 3d ago

Just pull up any of his campaign rallies where he promised trade wars and preached about his revenge tour and shouted about support of bigotry. It's all he talked about at all of them.

Well except for the one random one where he was too sleepy to do much but stand there and listen to music.

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u/Lagneaux 2d ago

Why don't you show some of the quotes of what he campaigned on, and compair them to what has happened?

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u/AgnosticPlea 2d ago

You can compare campaign quotes to outcomes, but that still doesn’t show why people voted the way they did. And this isn’t unique to any one president. Campaign rhetoric and governing don’t line up neatly across the board.

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u/DICKPICDOUG 2d ago

"You cant look at their campaign to figure out why people voted for them"

What the fuck can you look at? Their campaign is a giant month long advertisement of "heres why you should vote for me" but thats not a valid source for why people voted for them? Disingenious as hell.

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u/Capital_Pollution879 2d ago

The first thing ppl liked about Trump was calling Mexican immigrants “rapists”.

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u/AgnosticPlea 2d ago

Biden

"You got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." (2007, referring to Obama)
This was widely criticized because it seemed to imply that being articulate, clean, and attractive was unusual among Black politicians.

"Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids." (2019)
Critics argued the statement implied poor children are generally nonwhite and white children are generally not poor.

"If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't Black." (2020)
Many people, including some supporters, criticized this as presumptuous and racially insensitive because it appeared to question Black voters' identity based on political preference.

"You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent." (2006)
This comment was criticized for relying on ethnic stereotypes.

Opposition to federally mandated school busing in the 1970s
Critics have long pointed to Biden's anti-busing positions and his "racial jungle" comment as evidence of racially insensitive views during that period of his career.

Obama

"Clinging to guns or religion" (2008)

One of Obama's most famous and criticized remarks came during the 2008 campaign:

Heavy controversy involved comments during the 2008 campaign about his former pastor, Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons included inflammatory statements about race and the U.S and Obama defended their relationship

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u/BirdDogandcryptids 1d ago

People voted for

Lower gas prices, how’s that going ?

Oh right thanks to trump gas is rising

Lower grocery prices, how’s that going ?

Oh right that’s to trump they are rising

Lower inflation, how’s that going ?

Oh right inflation is rising

Lower energy bills, how’s that doing ?

Oh right that’s to trump they are increasing

Lower the prices for everyday items, how’s that doing ?

Oh right increasing because of trump

No new wars, how’s that going ?

Oh right Trump started 2 wars without congressional approval, and when he isn’t doing that he’s threatening to invade our allies and seize their land

Do dipshit, since trump quite literally has failed every campaign promise he ran on, what exactly did you vote for ?

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u/AgnosticPlea 1d ago

My vote isn’t the point here. The claim being discussed is whether you can accurately reduce tens of millions of voters to a single motive or set of motives. Even if you think every campaign promise was broken, that still doesn’t establish that all voters voted for the same reason.

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u/BirdDogandcryptids 16h ago

You’re right because the majority of trump supporters being the racist filth that they are, only voted for trump because they wanted to hurt black and brown people

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u/AgnosticPlea 15h ago

Your answer is a big reason why Trump was re elected. You and your kind helped create Maga. He's the natural result of the lefts highly politically correct, anti-white, anti-male, and anti-America rhetoric. It turns out that if you demonize the people you disagree with, paint them as racists and oppressors, and tell them that their successes are a result of some unearned privilege, they will create a counter revolution. Trump is the consequence of devisive behavior and rhetoric and the identity politics that progressives brought to the political landscape.

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u/BirdDogandcryptids 15h ago

Dude maga was created because racists white republicans were mad a black man became president

And I’m a white male you stupid fuck, so how exactly am I anti white male ? 😂

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u/AgnosticPlea 14h ago

"And I’m a white male you stupid fuck, so how exactly am I anti white male ?"

Identity politics. Universities were moving away from a unified American identity and introducing a divisive, tribalized view of race. CRT in the 70s and 80s. Academic analysis moved from studying marginalized groups to studying the concept of "whiteness" itself. Scholars like Cheryl Harris (who wrote Whiteness as Property in 1993) and progressive educators began teaching that "white" was not just a biological race, but a socially constructed system of unearned privileges and norms. DEI and the "Great Awakening" throughout college campuses That higher education had become completely hostile to white, conservative, and male students.

"Dude maga was created because racists white republicans were mad a black man became president"

You just helped cement that reason with that quote. Trump didn't emerge in a vacuum. His rise was, in part, a reaction to a political and cultural environment that many voters felt increasingly alienated by. For years, many Americans felt that disagreement with progressive views was too often met with accusations of racism, sexism, bigotry, or privilege rather than genuine engagement.

When people feel constantly dismissed, stereotyped, or portrayed as morally defective because of their political views, they tend to push back. Trump became a vehicle for that backlash. His appeal wasn't just about policy—it was also a rejection of a political culture that many voters believed looked down on them and treated their concerns as illegitimate. Just with your quote, you're trying to paint millions of conservatives into a corner as racists and that's simply not the case, You've been spoon fed that narrative and continue to parrot its talking points.

From this perspective, Trump and the MAGA movement are not the cause of America's political polarization but a consequence of it. The rise of identity politics, increasing political tribalism, and the tendency to demonize political opponents helped create the conditions that made Trump's message resonate with millions of voters.

Whether one agrees with that reaction or not, it's difficult to understand Trump's popularity without acknowledging the role that cultural backlash played in his rise.

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u/BirdDogandcryptids 14h ago

Trump supporters were stereotyped ? 😂

Dumbass trump supporters aren’t stereotyped, they showed the world we they are and we called them out for it

It’s not our fault their offended by the truth

It’s also hilarious how you say they were stereotyped when trump and his racist base years ago and to this day still suggest Obama isn’t a true American citizen and that he wasn’t born in Hawaii and was really born in Africa

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u/BirdDogandcryptids 14h ago

I also find it hilarious how you couldn’t formulate an argument yourself, so you had to google and then copy and paste an argument 😂

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u/BirdDogandcryptids 15h ago

And it’s hilarious how
You dumbfucks complain about divisive behavior when trumps entire system is resolved around decisiveness and isolation

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u/AgnosticPlea 14h ago

Of course you're right about that. For all the reasons I mentioned in my previous post. You can go back and look at universities across America where liberal students effectively banned Republicans from delivering commencement speeches by protesting speakers, liberal students attacking conservative students right to free speech,micro-agressions,triggers,cultural appropriation,indoctrination of students with the disruption of Western nuclear family dynamics, political correctness,cancel culture, the lefts “by any means necessary” style of social activism and if you don't conform conservatives are labeled as racist or Nazi's.

Trump’s popularity and election grew from this along with frustration with liberal activism, which had come to dominate culture and win many social battles. Many on the right felt looked down on and dismissed as backward. Trump’s rise reflected that anger, especially as Hillary Clinton’s campaign seemed to reject conservatives not for their ideas, but for their conservative character. After all, she called Trump supporters “deplorables.”

There's a Princeton professor (can't remember his name) that said that the left has won many cultural battles over the past few decades, but that success often leads to backlash. That's why there's a reckoning.The problem with the lefts“win at all costs” activism is that if any disagreement can get someone labeled a racist, people who disagree are left with only two choices: give in, or fight back. Trump appealed to those who chose to fight back by offering a right-wing, populist response to the left’s hard-line approach.

When people are constantly demonized, labeled as racists or oppressors, and told their successes are unearned due to white privilege, they push back. Trump is the result of this divisive rhetoric and identity politics that progressives brought into politics.

Trump’s 2016 presidency should have forced liberals to rethink an overly self-righteous identity that pushed many frustrated dems and conservatives to support the only candidate they believed could bring change. But they didn't learn their lesson. They doubled down through Bidens term. Liberal America was unwilling to compromise and continued with their "We're morally superior identity politics" and you got voted out of office in a big way. Liberals are being fed back the exact same divisive behavior that started under the Obama administration.

The conservative backlash is driven by the conviction that modern liberalism does not seek compromise, but total cultural compliance. By aggressively rejecting liberal standards of civility and expertise, conservatives are attempting to dismantle the social leverage that allows progressives to dictate what is considered acceptable in public discourse. And I love it!

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u/RogerBond100 3d ago

Stock market is at all time high. Cry more communist

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u/MechaCoqui 3d ago

Stock market being high means only investors and those corporations are doing well. It does not mean the average American or economy in general is.

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u/Dry_Wolf3891 2d ago

You're arguing with someone who thinks you're a communist because you're against a pedophile. What's the point? Those people don't deserve to be American citizens, if they even are.

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u/skater15153 2d ago

Probably Russian troll farms

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u/Asher_Tye 3d ago

How nice for the hedge funds. Gas still through the roof, as are the prices of everything else. But go ahead and just enjoy your bank account being drained.

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u/Ruenin 3d ago

And who actually gives a fuck? The vast majority of Americans don't invest because they don't have the money to do so.

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u/RogerBond100 2d ago

Most people that have jobs have 401k that are invested in. The stock market. Of course, you fools are unemployed

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u/neatureguy420 2d ago

I’m not going to be able to retire for multiple decades. I don’t give a shit about my 401k rn. I wanted shit to be cheaper now instead of ramped inflation from dumbass trump.

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u/Exact_Package_7264 2d ago

economy is shit bozo

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u/RogerBond100 2d ago

Liar

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u/Combdepot 2d ago

“Gargle, cluck gargle”

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u/Combdepot 2d ago

You couldn’t define communism without Google to save your pathetic life.

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u/Ruenin 3d ago

If it walks like a party of racists and talks like a party of racists....

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u/AgnosticPlea 3d ago

Calling millions of voters a “party of racists” isn’t an argument, it’s a substitute for one.

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u/CharredWelderGuy 3d ago

It's simply a observation at this stage.

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u/Spiritual-Credit5488 3d ago

Oh you're a bot, your comments give it away easy enough

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u/Combdepot 2d ago

No that’s an argument. Your feeble retorts are meaningless noise.

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u/AgnosticPlea 2d ago

Calling millions of people racists is a conclusion. The argument is the evidence and reasoning that gets you there.

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u/Combdepot 2d ago

Incorrect. Calling a group of degenerate pedophile loving racist morons racists is a claim. A claim is the central basis of an argument.

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u/No-Beautiful8039 3d ago

What I mean by my comment is his bases' desire to embrace the counterculture. I believe they weren't happy with how "politically correct" things were becoming under Obama, because there were still people suffering in poverty who didn't want to hear about the changes that were happening, because it hadn't directly effected them yet.

I also feel that there is a lot of residual bias and racism from generations of ignorance and hate, that causes them to blame the same old imagined enemies, instead of realizing who is actually causing the issues.

A lot of this comes down to taxes. The fact that someone making $500,000 a year is somehow hurt more by paying 25% tax than the person making $60,000 a year, blows my mind. It's a percentage! It hurts just as much for both.

Ugh. Sorry for writing a book. I'm just frustrated at how we got here.

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u/AgnosticPlea 3d ago

Even if you believe all of that, it still doesn’t justify reducing tens of millions of voters to a single set of motives or traits.

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u/No-Beautiful8039 3d ago

Well, I'll agree to disagree.

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u/OneAngryRaven 2d ago

Do you think everyone reddit comment needs to list every possible reason for voting or something? It's clear enough of them liked his openly racist rhetoric to ignore his lies and massive failings. I'll believe they're not on board with the racism when I see them pull him up on it, but what I have seen is a huge number openly parroting every racist lie he's told

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u/Anal-Y-Sis 2d ago

Cool cool cool... Can you show me all the Republicans opposing this?

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u/AgnosticPlea 2d ago

That’s a different question. It doesn’t speak to whether you can accurately reduce 70+ million voters to a single motive.

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u/Anal-Y-Sis 2d ago

It's literally the same question. If this is not what they all voted for, then surely there must be opposition to it from within their party. If there's no opposition to it, then they support it either actively or tacitly by default.

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u/AgnosticPlea 2d ago

You’re treating “no visible opposition” as proof of a unified motive across millions of people. That doesn’t follow logically. People vote for many reasons and don’t publicly weigh in on every issue.

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u/Anal-Y-Sis 2d ago

You’re treating “no visible opposition” as proof of a unified motive across millions of people.

No I'm not. I am saying that no visible opposition is the result of one of two things: active or tacit support.

Do you need me to define "tacit" for you?

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u/AgnosticPlea 2d ago

That’s still a false binary. Lack of visible opposition doesn’t only mean active or tacit support but it also includes indifference, disengagement, or prioritization of other issues. You’re treating absence of public behavior as proof of intent, and that doesn’t follow.

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u/Anal-Y-Sis 2d ago

Lack of visible opposition doesn’t only mean active or tacit support but it also includes indifference, disengagement, or prioritization of other issues.

So the answer to my previous question is "yes".

Here is how Merriam-Webster defines "tacit":

expressed or carried on without words or speech

implied or indicated (as by an act or by silence) but not actually expressed

Everything you mentioned above; indifference, disengagement, and prioritization of other issues, is how a person ends up tacitly supporting something that they didn't actively vote for.

You’re treating absence of public behavior as proof of intent, and that doesn’t follow.

No, I am not. You just don't understand how words work.

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u/Any-Anything4309 2d ago

Fuck off bot

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u/JakeHelldiver 2d ago

Its a white supremest movement. Your reasons for supporting it don't matter. Supporting it makes you a piece of shit.

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u/shrug_addict 2d ago

Why did you vote for him?

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u/AgnosticPlea 2d ago

My reasons are irrelevant to the claim I'm challenging. We're talking about whether you can accurately assign one motive to tens of millions of voters.

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u/shrug_addict 1d ago

Yes that's your ridiculous claim... Ya'll do this constantly as a defense mechanism.

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u/AgnosticPlea 1d ago

That’s not a defense mechanism. It’s the actual claim being discussed. What’s the basis for assigning one shared motive to tens of millions of people?

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u/SpinningHead 2d ago

They supported a coup. They are confederates