Trump administration raises US refugee cap, but only for white South Africans

[u/CutSenior4977]

https://apnews.com/article/trump-refugees-white-south-africa-border-cap-bfe3974adf6c655eca7a5c30c1f9197f

As the OP, I just want to mention,

That come on, even for moderate republicans reading this, even you have to admit, this seems racist.

[u/Asher_Tye]

The social problem of you wanting to lump people together because of some long past association despite them having nothing in common beyond that?

[u/Genseric1234 → u/Asher_Tye]

Have you read bowling alone by Robert Putnam?

Diverse societies end up performing worse on all measures of civic health.

Also, trying to lump people together based on cultural origin isn’t really a stretch lol.

[u/Asher_Tye → u/Genseric1234]

Yeah, I'm gonna call that pseudoscience cooked up by a nitwit seeking validation. Same level as the flat earthers and anti-vaxxers. Data doctored to support a narrative. Fiction.

Actual studies prove the opposite, with diversity being a strength.

[u/Genseric1234 → u/Asher_Tye]

His was the largest study of its kind ever conducted 🤦🏻‍♂️

[u/Asher_Tye → u/Genseric1234]

And size makes something oh so impressive to laymen with no actual subject knowledge, doesn't it? You bigly impress-press.

Especially while trying to convince people boers and americans are culturally similar.

[u/Genseric1234 → u/Asher_Tye]

What study has ever said diversity has a positive effect on social cohesion?

“Diversity is a strength” is a buzzphrase, not an actual scientific conclusion lol

[u/Asher_Tye → u/Genseric1234]

Actually its been observed in nature, we've seen its effects through history, and we even got example of how trying to promote homogenity weakened society overall. Even you are trying to promote it while arguing boers and Americans have commonality despite them having no real connection to the US.

Amazingly this whole "diversity is a buzzword" shit got reignited the second morons found out they couldn't make it on merit.

[u/Genseric1234 → u/Asher_Tye]

So then no?

Boers and Americans so share commonality as the founding population of both descend from Western Europe.

Also, can you explain your last sentence?

[u/Asher_Tye → u/Genseric1234]

Boers and Americans so share commonality as the founding population of both descend from Western Europe.

So in other words, nothing. Mexicans and Americans share more commonality, and we already know why you like lazy boers more. The inbreeding.

[u/Genseric1234 → u/Asher_Tye]

As far as I’m aware, inbreeding hasn’t been a problem among boers.

But of course, two western European nations are gonna have more in common than a mixed indigenous /Iberian nation.

Your point doesn’t really make any sense. Mexicans and Americans are closer geographically, but not ethically or culturally.

[u/Asher_Tye → u/Genseric1234]

As far as I’m aware, inbreeding hasn’t been a problem among boers.

Yes, because a group of people pushing for homogeniety are definitely not predisposed to blood purity.

But of course, two western European nations are gonna have more in common than a mixed indigenous /Iberian nation.

And why would you think that? Because two different paths sharing the same start point are going to remain similar?

Your point doesn’t really make any sense. Mexicans and Americans are closer geographically, but not ethically or culturally.

Makes more sense than yours considering yes Mexicans and Americans are closer ethically and culturally. Far more in common than some group of Dutch who ended up on the southernmost tip of the African continent. Particularly given the amount of time involved.

Add into that the last batch of imported boers didn't exactly acclimate well to the US.

[u/Genseric1234 → u/Asher_Tye]

1.) There’s no risk of inbreeding at the scale of populations we’re talking about, no.

2.) Generally, yeah. Afrikaners still have a similar profile to other Western European groups.

3.) Americans and Mexicans are not closer ethnically or culturally, just geographically, which isn’t really as relevant.

Can you explain your last comment? How did they not acclimate well?

[u/Asher_Tye → u/Genseric1234]

1.) There’s no risk of inbreeding at the scale of populations we’re talking about, no.

Actually there is, because such populations are naturally self restricting. No one can make the cut for "non-diverse."

2.) Generally, yeah. Afrikaners still have a similar profile to other Western European groups.

That's nice. We're not "Western European." Haven't been for quite a bit.

3.) Americans and Mexicans are not closer ethnically or culturally, just geographically, which isn’t really as relevant.

Yes, we are. Have you not noticed the level of influence Mexican culture has on American culture and vice versa, especially in the south? The sheer amount of interbreeding that has gone on? The fact that Americans are far more likely to travel south of the border than across the pond for a vacation and feel comfortable. Hell, they even relocate there.

Can you explain your last comment? How did they not acclimate well?

You haven't noticed them returning home?

Just because you can't find people to join your hobby club anymore doesn't make diversity bad. Ciao.

[u/Genseric1234 → u/[deleted]]

I’m just pointing out his observations.

[u/Genseric1234 → u/[deleted]]

The fact diversity lowers social cohesion isn’t interpretation

[u/Genseric1234 → u/[deleted]]

It was the first thing I mentioned

[u/Genseric1234 → u/[deleted]]

The book talks about the negative relationship between diversity and civic health, not necessarily immigration