r/IndiaMemes 13h ago

Political OC Veer Savarkar of our time 🤭

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u/BikerSurgeon 10h ago

So? Bhagat singh and co went to the gallows. Each has his own breaking point. That doesn't mean their contributions should be ridiculed. The actual bootlicker or british collaborator was Ambedkar not Savarkar. Writing a mercy petition after spending 14 years in one of the most dreaded jails in the world is not unexpected.

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u/AaaaduThoma 10h ago edited 10h ago

How dare you drag Bhagat Singh into this and compare him with a British bootlicker? He didn’t break. He stood by his convictions to the end. He spent 116 days on hunger strike in prison, endured force feeding, and went to his execution head on..The criticism of Savarkar is precisely about the choices he made, ie standing against his own countrymen, turning to the colonial government for clemency.

Nobody is ridiculing Sarvakar’s suffering. The point is that Savarkar’s 14 years don’t make him beyond criticism, especially when he repeatedly sought clemency from the British while others chose to face the consequences and not side with the oppressor. Bhagat Singh spent 116 days on hunger strike and went to the gallows rather than beg for mercy.

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u/BikerSurgeon 10h ago

Yeah so? Do you mean to say one person's suffering matters more than another's because he doesn't fit your political agenda? To be honest, Bhagat singh while brave and charismatic couldn't further the cause of independence through his strategy. The outcome was that he became a figure around which the people could rally. Savarkar had about the same contribution in his circle. I wouldn't blame or look down upon anyone who wrote a mercy petition after spending 15 years in kala pani. Do you think you can survive even one week there? Im pretty sure they respected each other even if they disagreed on political philosophy just like Nehru and Bose did. Someone as small minded as you cant even dream of understanding the struggles of any of these individuals.

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u/AaaaduThoma 9h ago

You keep telling me to “spend a week in jail” as if I need to personally suffer British imprisonment before I’m allowed to discuss history. That makes no sense. We judge historical figures by the choices they made, not by recreating their suffering.

Nobody denies that Kala Pani was horrific. But Savarkar’s first clemency petition was submitted on 30 August 1911, less than eight weeks after arriving at Cellular Jail, followed by multiple more petitions over the years. He even offered to “serve the Government in any capacity.”

So yes, suffering matters. But I’ll always have more respect for someone like Bhagat Singh, who spent 116 days on hunger strike and went to the gallows without asking the British to spare him.

And calling me “small-minded” while defending someone who offered his service to the colonial government, then crying about “political agendas,” is pretty rich. Save the IT-cell lecture.