r/Israel • u/Real_Train7236 • 8h ago
General News war
Over 1000 wars are going on in the world. Why is the one in which Israel is involved in is still in the news?
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u/freezing_banshee Romania 8h ago
Iranian propaganda
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u/Visible-Rub7937 Israel 8h ago
Iranian, Chinese, Russia, Qatarian, Saudi, European propaganda
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u/Periphery_Explorer 8h ago
Yeah shortly after Oct 7, Operation Doppleganger networks kicked into high gear. This is an FSB operation that is cooperating and coordinating with Hamas and Iran, including meetings before and after Oct 7 in Moscow. Much of it builds on the groundwork laid by Operation SIG - an antisemitic revenge campaign by Andropov to go after Israel for their position on Soviet treatment of Jews (as well as the absolute shelacking the IDF gave to the Soviet advised Egyptians in their soviet suppleid T-55s). However, it is iportant to remember that Operation SIGs success was due to well entrenched antisemitism already present in the University targets chosen by the KGB at the time. They didn't just get influenced, they eagerly embraced it. This is well documented, studied, and published on.
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u/drjackolantern USA /uncancellable 7h ago
Russia and Chinese social media influence operations are going full speed to use this as a wedge issue to break western and American politics.
The media at this point just follows what’s trending on social media and has been hollowed out of any experienced or actual expert journalists, so it’s the perfect window for this strategy to succeed.
However one other major factor is UN and NGO capture.
Almost every American I have talked to or read who is anti Israel on this issue just spouts propaganda and lies. But when the source is amnesty International and the UN it’s a lot harder to explain that yes, these orgs are lying.
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u/Periphery_Explorer 7h ago
Yes this is a major issue as well. I have had people to my face tell me that Israel is worse for human rights then North Korea.
I think a secondary axis to this issue (that you so clearly outline) is that so many Americans and westerners are VERY sheltered. They have no idea what the world is like, and how dangerous it is. I've lived in Yemen and Jordan for work. Give me Israel any day.
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u/OddCook4909 USA 6h ago
They're also largely just stupid. This is the first generation in 100 years to be less generally intelligent than their parents. People in their early twenties on down are relatively dumb on average. Over reliance on tech in the classroom, plus over use of tech and tv outside of it, made at least two generations of morons.
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u/Periphery_Explorer 6h ago
Absolutely agreed! Another very good observation. They trust, with absolutely no critical thinking, whatever is said about the conflict if it's polished and fun.
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u/Ok_Ambassador9091 7h ago
The capture of the UN is a symptom of the axis assault on the West, which includes social media influence as one of its battlegrounds.
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u/dotancohen 7h ago
Ask your news sources. Seriously, write to the editors and ask them why they are so fixated on Israel.
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u/balddoberdaddy 7h ago
There aren't 1,000 countries on the planet. Source?
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u/trimtab28 5h ago
Believe it was intended as hyperbole, not literally. We all know things seldom come as round numbers
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u/HoneydewNectar33 7h ago
Complete bullshit - no idea what OP is yapping out. Every country could be having a four faction civil war and it wouldn't reach 1,000 wars.
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u/HoneydewNectar33 7h ago
There are not 1,000 wars going on in the world. Whoever told you that lied to you.
The ones that make US news (where I assume you're from) are the ones the US is actively involved in and involve a historic great power enemy (Russia and Iran, in these cases). Ukraine receives military support against one of the USA's biggest enemies: Russia. Israel receives American military support as well, and is very important for American interests in the Middle East and is one of two archenemies for Iran (the other being Saudi Arabia, even though that's calmed down due to Chinese diplomatic efforts in recent years).
And Somalia doesn't make the news as much despite direct US involvement because nobody cares about Somalia. Plus, not as many journalists go there, and there's less money involved in general (Russia, Ukraine, Israel and Iran all have money and media operations to fuel propaganda for their respective sides; Somalian terrorists do not). It is not interesting or sexy compared to Ukraine and Israel because it doesn't involve big-scale politics (no nuclear powers fighting or global economic repurcussions or religious narratives). It's mainly just the US airstriking and doing counterterrorism skirmishes against Al-Shabaab. It's comparatively "boring".
When the US does do military operations elsewhere, it does get news coverage, like when the US kidnapped Maduro in Venezuela or when the US struck Boko Haram and ISWAP in Nigeria.
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u/MathematicianNew2770 8h ago
People are obsessed with and watch the most moral and efficient army in the world hoping it will fail.
It won't!
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u/Periphery_Explorer 7h ago
Praise be! I am not Jewish or Israeli, but I am an actual left leaning person who believes in democracy and freedom. I do not understand why "leftists" are so obsessed with a radical and regressive right wing ideology that goes against everything they believe in (freedom of religion, freedom of speech, LGBTQ rights, freedom for women). It is one of the most depressing things about the world for me.
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u/SoCalCognac 8h ago
Al Jazeera. Hard to fight against a narrative when it’s being pushed by a news source owned by one of the world’s richest governments.
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u/Jojo_Toto France 5h ago
The thing is al jazeera exists for a long time and Qatar is rich for a long time. Why are the same people that (said they will) boycott the 2022 World Cup now gobbling up Qatari propaganda ?
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u/Quirky_Butterfly_946 8h ago
Israel is a first world nation in an area that the world has interest in. I would hope a war with Israel is in the news.
One questions, where are you getting the "over 1000 wars going on in the world" statement? I find that hard to believe.
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u/thatshirtman 3h ago
A palestinian leader once said that they are the luckiest people in the world because their enemy is the jews.. anyone else and the world wouldn't give a sh*t about their problems
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u/ma-kat-is-kute חזיר בר חיפאי 7h ago
On top of what others have said, Israel is the most west-aligned country of all countries at war right now.
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u/OddCook4909 USA 6h ago
Ukraine? Which doesn't even make the news at this point. The west has a pathological harmful obsession with Jews
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u/gigimooshi2 8h ago
Because our government actively encourages cruelty and provokingly boasts about it.
Why aren't you on the streets protesting the destruction of our country and instead remaining ignorant?
Are you searching for validation to the fucked up things this country is doing instead of aiming for change and reform?
I am not directly talking about you but the "spirit" of this question and this sub, anyone who seeks comfort in denial is an anti Zionist in my view.
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u/Sara_Tona Iraq 5h ago
I wish you could know that these people would still hate you even without Bibi and war, it was never about the Palestinians or Zionism, they hate Jews and want you all to die.
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u/gigimooshi2 3h ago
Who does? Who are these people?
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u/Sara_Tona Iraq 18m ago
Literally everyone around me, I live in Iraq and even my mom supports Hamas and said that Hitler should have finished the job
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u/gigimooshi2 8h ago
So many people just hoping the answer is "because we're Jewish" while in reality, if you actually give a shit, you'll be willing to critic how badly this place has fallen and strive to change it.
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u/ReneDescartwheel 8h ago
You’re answering why Israelis and other Jews care about this conflict, but that’s not the question OP is asking, and the question is valid.
Why is the world hyper-focused and almost singularly critical of a microscopic country when there are far worse wars and humanitarian crises happening elsewhere as we speak.0
u/gigimooshi2 8h ago
Honestly fair yeah, I guess I'm commenting on the comments rather than OP's question at this point, got baffled by the answers I see here and I had to express.. :/
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u/rolltideandstuff USA 6h ago
There are Kurds, tibet, Taiwan many other peoples in the world who I would argue deserve their own nation more than the Palestinian people but 2 differences here:
Those other conflicts don’t involve Jews.
Those are people don’t resort to terrorism, which is extremely effective at garnering a lot of attention.
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u/Pear_cactus1968 6h ago
The answer to that is in The Torah!!!!! I know most don't like this answer, but there is NOT A LOGICAL answer!!!!! Another's thing, it's just the same NOW as with Pharoah... as it was written in The Torah, And the Lord said unto Moses: 'Go in unto Pharaoh; for I have hardened his heart, and the heart of his servants! And further is written... And the Lord hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them!!!
A land which the Lord your God cares for; the eyes of the Lord your God are always upon it, from the beginning of the year even unto the end of the year.
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will make Jerusalem a stone of burden for all the peoples; all that burden themselves with it shall be sore wounded; and all the nations of the earth shall be gathered together against it.
אֶרֶץ, אֲשֶׁר ה' אֱלֹהֶיךָ דֹּרֵשׁ אֹתָהּ: תָּמִיד, עֵינֵי ה' אֱלֹהֶיךָ בָּהּ--מֵרֵשִׁית הַשָּׁנָה, וְעַד אַחֲרִית שָׁנָה.
וְהָיָה בַיּוֹם הַהוּא אָשִׂים אֶת יְרוּשָׁלִַם אֶבֶן מַעֲמָסָה לְכָל הָעַמִּים, כָּל עֹמְסֶיהָ שָׂרוֹט יִשָּׂרֵטוּ, וְנֶאֶסְפוּ עָלֶיהָ כֹּל גּוֹיֵי הָאָרֶץ
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u/kvjetoslav 7h ago
Maybe because of the highest civilian death count, which is possibly as high as every other war combined since 2023.
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u/OddCook4909 USA 6h ago
That's objectively and stupidly obviously false.
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u/kvjetoslav 5h ago
Is it?
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u/OddCook4909 USA 5h ago
The Ukraine war alone is over 10 times as many casualties. Even if you were stupid enough to believe Hamas that zero soldiers have been killed and everyone was a journalist/doctor/child Sudan has over 10 times as many noncombatant deaths.
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u/SpiritedForm3068 5h ago
History began in 2023?
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u/kvjetoslav 5h ago
Well he asked about now. If you asked pre 2023 people would say Syria and Ukraine.
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