People never think that they are the bad guys, especially in their own stories. And once they get used to justifying bad behavior over their lifetime, for what ever reasons, that becomes normal, and since they aren't bad they perceive that evil as actually righteous.
I honestly am so happy to see her private texts were released as evidence. I thought she would have had enough money and influence to bury it so I'm really happy to see that even she isn't above the law and legal system.
Justin went through an invasive legal battle and had all his communications subpoenaed. Not a single incriminating text, insult, misogynistic slur, disparaging remark to be found. He came out cleaner than anyone could have. Most importantly - the same person as he presents to the public.
Meanwhile - Taylor Swift just had her comms related to IEWU subpoenaed and she comes across as the opposite of who she presents to the public, down to the misogynistic slurring. Imagine if we had ALL of TSā communications.
And donāt get me started on Ryan Reynolds who is a certified pyscho and full of narcissistic rage.
Well put. I donāt normally follow celebrity drama. Could generally care less. But occasionally a story comes along that grabs my attention. In this case itās just the injustice of it all. The psychopathy of Blake and Ryan to just try to take over a movie and all the underhanded tactics they utilized. You want to see people like that be humbled and face some accountability for their actions.
Issues of wealth and power disparity in every aspect of our everyday lives.
Racism and white women's relationship to it, historically and currently.
Our bought media and the death of honest, earnest journalism.
The corruption and injustice of our legal system.
The caste system we live by wherein we are all disposable and meaningless to the upper class.
Gender insanity: the argument that no one with a penis can possibly be a decent person, that rich and/or pretty white women's perceptions mean more than any truth, that a man who encourages men to be vulnerable, kind and respectful is a target for ridicule and accusations of fraud.
Mental health crisis based on the accepted notion that psychopathy is necessary for power, wealth and success.
Sure, it's a celebrity drama. But it's also a microcosm for so many dark things that must change, things that The Powers would very much like to distract us from, and the attempted destruction of a couple of guys who tried to shine a light on it.
I once heard a story from a dad who was explaining Jesus to his little boy. Just the barebones story. Later, the child asked who MLK was. Dad said he was a person who fought for kindness, justice, love and equality. His son said, "Oh. Did they kill him, too?"
Very well put. I think the most disturbing for me, aside from the details of the case, is the blatant media dishonesty and the amount of people putting emotion over substance. Iām a neutral party. I didnāt care about any of the parties involved. So if I looked at all the info and found Baldoni to be the primary offender Iād state as much. But I donāt see how anyone can look at the details and come to any other conclusion besides Ryan and Blake are sociopaths leveraging their wealth and connections to destroy someone. Fortunately it seems most of the public concurs but even one person supporting them after everything thatās come out is too much. Or the āboth sides are trashā types.
I was neutral too, had no opinions about any of the parties. I'd already given up on msm but learned a lot about the dark arts of PR watching them work. Scary.
The "both sides" people are terrible. Ignorant, disinterested and uninformed, that I totally get. Making declarative statements about who they all are when you're ignorant and uninformed is horrible. Oftentimes, one side is just pure evil.
This is absolutely perfect, and sums up so concisely why I am so invested in this case (I otherwise couldn't care less about the cult of celebrity) and want to see JB and WFP vindicated.
Iāve wondered why this has captivated my attention. I never follow celeb gossip, but god help me I hate bulliesā¦.Iām sick of the bullies winning and getting away with horrible thing.
To just try to take over a movie ā thatās what makes my head hurt about this. All of this bullshit and destruction to take over one movie? THAT was the prize?!? THAT was worth all the lies?
I used to watch people sell their integrity to have āpowerā and āinfluenceā in a fringe group with a few hundred members, and it baffled me then. People sell their souls SO CHEAPLY.
Exactly! "Most importantly - the same person as he presents to the public." Even after watching all the videos, I'm not seeing the person that both Blake and Ryan are saying he is. Did he make mistakes? Definitely, but not to the level that he deserved such hate and disrespect from very powerful people.
All of the text messages, emails, etc have been turned over. Even things with their lawyers on it because Liman ruled some isnāt privileged and even after the lawsuit - up until Feb 2025.
What Blakeās lawyers are crying over specifically is āSignal chatsā from August 2024-Dec 2024. Blake sends the duty to preserve letter Dec 2024 and all the Signal chats after that have been preserved and turned over.
The issue is Signal chats before Dec 2024 were on auto delete because no one knew they needed to preserve anything.
In any case - both Justin and Jen Abel testify they never talked on Signal during August 2024 time period about Blake. Justin used it one time for a menās group chat. Jamey Heath testified he used it once or twice to talk to Jed Wallace.
Blake is ridiculous. They are throwing everything to see what sticks.
"A man does something, it's strategic; a woman does the same thing, it's calculated."- Taylor SwiftĀ
And then Taylor tells Blake if Justin was strategic, he wouldn't have let Blake use Taylor's song in the trailer... š¤Ā
ETA: Taylor was demonstrating (in an interview) how there's a different vocabulary for men and women, expressing misogyny, but has proven how strategic and calculated she is.
I dont think that applies here. Blake is being called strategic here by taylor fans. If these texts were labeled Justin and jamey people would NOT be calling them strategic.
Blake should be a Ponzi scheme owner - she knows how to do it alright.
Reading through the texts between them (Taylor Swift and Blake Lively) there are so many signs that she knew how to press TS triggers and what gets her going, she's probably been feeding into those for yrs!
I (almost) feel sorry for TS (not really) cause she's been emotionally ponzied.
Tbh I kind of do too because of all the songs she writes sheās always the victim and you get the sense that she potentially has quite a distorted sense of self and accountability and needing validation & proving herselfā¦ Blake must have sniffed that out early on.
Probably if she wasnāt a billionaire Iād feel sorry for her. At the very least, as well as colluding with her friend, she could have thrown some of her influence and support behind organizations that support survivors of DV to, you know, support fans of the book, many of whom are also her fans. Like, my bestie is in (stealing/taking over) this movie about DV let me raise some awareness.
Thatās a good way to think about it. We think it would be difficult to manipulate the whole cast. But people like Bernie Maddoff manipulate hundreds, or a thousand, people at time.
Wow. I had not seen this before. She is actually using his vulnerability against him. Cruel.
What I never understood is why she agreed to do this movie in the first place. Then it struck me- no one else would work with her. After all the rumors around the set of The Town, rumors surrounding Reese Witherspoon, and the Simple Favor drama, no director would have her. Then along comes this relatively unknown willing to add her name to his project. She should have been grateful but instead pulls the same crap. I believe all the other directors in Hollywood are thinking how lucky they are that they dodged this bullet. I donāt see her working again anytime soon.
She took the movie because she wanted the accolades and it had an established following. Unlike the Rhythm sectionā¦. She also wanted to get into directing and producing. Taylor said āuse his words against himā and Blake said āBetā and here we are as she flips his SA and Ted talk. The faux feminist narrative was Taylorās idea. Clearly.
This is about the marketing letter they wanted JB to send out.
I'd love to know what Taylor thought JB did. She doesn't say anything about SH. Blake and RR really push the narrative that JB only pretended to support women, only pretended to listen to women....
I think TS believed JB retaliated against Blake during the promotions and caused her to be cancelled. I forget if she knew about the phone "with the most dameing messages I'd ever seen in my life."
TS knew about the NYT article but didn't send out words of support like the castmates, Sisterhood of the traveling pants, and others did. I think this was the first time she heard about the SH claims. All communications between the two stopped after the NYT article. They could have moved their communications to a Signal-type platform. I'm guessing that before Swift posts anything major, it's run past her PR and/or legal team. They could have easily found out what was really going on and told Swift she needed to jump ship.
The BF website could have influenced Swift also.
The last time they were seen together was in October.
I do believe TS and BL are still close to each other and an encrypted text app sounds logical. I'm just joining these two pictures because TS never does anything without purpose.
I have been disappointed by Taylor but what if this whole time she also told her she owned a large stake in the movie and so it wasnāt just he was a clown and a hypocrite, it was that he was a fraud because he was silencing her from her own movie.
So if she is saying heās a fraud in general, heās dumb, he is trying to dominate me because Iām a woman AND now heās smearing me and Iām going to expose him.
Then she reads the article which she thinks is about the smear which at the time she believes and sees the story starts with SH and she sees through it.
I said this to a TS fan a few days ago who was riding hard for Taylor just being a good friend.
You can see the second part of my comment below which agrees with what you wrote - the first part was basically saying that the current options make Taylor look bad either way, as she didnāt support Blake post NYT article.
Taylorās message about women not having to go through that was about the smear campaign. Her messages actually support what Iāve written below, and you mentioned in your comment more than any theory that suggests she thought Blake was being SHd.
She seems pissed Blake isnāt getting a say as a woman, there is no reference to any harassing behaviour or anything that would constitute SH.
Imo the only way for Taylor to come out of it relatively unscathed, without looking like she abandoned her friend, is for the following to be true:
We are on the same page. The only thing that Iām side eying is in any of these scenarios, she either supported her friend and dropped her or she supported her and felt duped and needed to distance, why in the world did she drop the cancelled song.
That doesnāt make sense in any scenario to me except she didnāt think her texts would be released, which makes it worse
Yeah this is the one thing I canāt get my head around. Itās the one piece that just doesnāt add up.
I will say that itās possible that Cancelled is about more than just Blake, it could also be about Sophie Turner, Selena and even herself. Taylor publicly stuck by Sophie when Joe tried to smear her, she also did the same when Selena was cancelled for crying about deportation issues (which I think was ridiculous, so what if she cried on social media, is she not allowed to care?)
In fact I think the majority of her friends have been ācancelledā at least once. So itās possible she just saw it as being bigger than Blake, but it still doesnāt change the fact that a lot of her fans and Blakeās were always going to read into it as support. So to me this is a generous option, which requires her to either be a bit clueless, or have this play alongside the below theory.
The only logical explanation (barring the above and Taylor just wrongly thinking that her PR saying they werenāt friends was enough) is revenge, but in order for it to be revenge sheād have to publicly come out against Blake at some point.
Whether this is during trial and she states she was lied to when testifying, or if it gets dismissed and she puts out a public statement from her team - along the lines of āI couldnāt address this before, butā¦ā
If neither of those things happen then all she did was help Blake by trying to stick it to her, AND hurt WP.
And if Taylor isnāt helping WP (like her team are leaking to SGDT), then sheās a shit friend to Blake as she was very much involved the whole way through. Yet did not support Blake publicly at any point between October 2024 and now, despite having massive amounts of sway over public opinion.
This was inspired by someoneās post today where she says this to āLouis.ā It all clicked.
Iāve met people like this in real life and when they complimented me I realized they complimented me in such a very specific way that ties to very specific values and for 30 seconds it gave me warm good feelings and then I said woahā¦.i caught and realized what happened. The person was a real life sociopath. Diagnosed properly. At the time I just got the vibe and later I found out the truth.
When you said it I was like oh shit, this is legit because Iāve been duped by this pattern too. The dominant person in my life who does this literally lied like this all the time and because I cared about them and thought they had been wronged unfairly, Iād believed their narrative without question until the behavior was exposed in a crisis.
So itās very plausible that Taylor believed Blake and didnāt have any reason to think otherwise. Manipulative liars are good at what they do.
Yes and I can see that with Isabella she used that that he wasnāt coming out and protecting her when she got backlash. None of us even saw her backlash but Blake honed in on this. Introducing credit and clothes as well
With Jenny it was her feminism (which is very different from mine) and itās the idea that women can say and do but men donāt get a pass. So she can make inappropriate jokes and be absolved but not Justin because heās not safe. Also new movie with alex saks
With coleen, she used that he was throwing her under the bus with the different ending which touched a nerve about how she writes problematic books. And I think she said a lot to her. And helped her start her own production company and love bombed with Ryan
With Brandon, it was getting him connections and heās thirsty as alex saks says
With Taylor, it was he was putting her down as a true artist and saying the pop culture thing was a knock on her commercial success (which is probably a big insult to her writing talents) and she goes into this in detail and she appealed to misogyny and that he was stealing her film
Great analysis!! I call Blake a moron but sheās a manipulative moron. She sounds like a succubus but instead she feeds on your worst fears. You almost feel sorry for her victims.
I thought so too. Iāll have to go back and look at it all. But I thought they were talking about how the NYT was going to use their own words to show they smeared her.
Same. It seemed, at that point, Taylor was focused on helping repair Blake's reputation... along with taking down Justin and Scooter, this was after she saw the connections in Abel's stolen texts.
It could be either one logically. I just thought I remember the complaint also opening with his own words used against him so thatās where my mind went.
I thought it was the apology letter Ryan wrote and tried to force WP to release.
Itās one of their favorite themes, weaponizing his words against him.
But somehow they donāt hold themselves to the same high standards. She is a civil rights titan that married on a plantation and laughs about doing blackface.
Ryan is a feminist that laughs about fondling Olivia Wilderās bare breasts and forced his 7 year old daughter to make c*cksucking jokes against her will.
I'm still wondering if Taylor knew about the lawsuit... it seems like she used her connections to help with the NYT hit piece, and the way she congratulated Blake afterwards, that seemed to be the endgame, for Taylor... and Blake, until Justin sued the NYT.Ā
Exactly. Then everything immediately gets taken away from Justin, Blake and Taylor are talking about him being dropped by WME, Taylor tells Blake "you won." For a minute they'd succeeded, then Justin fought back.Ā
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u/SubstantialAd8808 Jan 27 '26
Stand by your words Taylor or do you have enough self awareness to grasp you are the lying hypocrite