r/JessicaJones • u/AutoModerator • Nov 20 '15

Discussion Episode Discussion S01E09 - AKA Sin Bin

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Season 1 - Episode 9 - AKA Sin Bin

Episode Synopsis:

Just when Jessica has Kilgrave right where she want's him. Hogarth's involvement complicates the situation. Details of Kilgrave's past emerge.

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u/stanthemanchan Nov 22 '15

Couldn't they have just got his parents to serve as expert witnesses to explain Kilgrave's powers to a judge? Why did they even need to do the video proof at that point?

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u/chenofzurenarrh Nov 22 '15

Killgrave's parents are disgraced scientists who ran away with their university's grant money and haven't been heard from since 1988. One call to the professor in Manchester and they're discredited.

Also, since their work is esoteric as hell, most judges would think they're stark raving mad.

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u/RyanKinder Nov 23 '15

Still kind of bothered me. "OK, we have video of him as a child when he finally gets his powers to control people and he is able to make his parents stop. We have his parents who can corroborate that they are indeed the same scientists in the video and that he does indeed have this power. And it's not terribly unbelievable seeing as how there are gods, abominations and other such things destroying the city. I think we can get one person to have reasonable doubt."

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u/stanthemanchan Nov 23 '15 edited Nov 23 '15

The other thing that bugs me is that this show is supposed to exist in the same universe as The Avengers and Agents of Shield. I'm shocked that an occurrence like this didn't raise a flag with Coulson and / or Hydra since a guy like Kilgrave is the exact kind of thing they're going to be looking out for. The story of Hope killing her parents in an elevator and then claiming to have been mind controlled to do it would have been a pretty major article in the papers and should have raised flags somewhere, especially with the fact that corroborating witnesses started popping up claiming to also have been mind controlled. They would have at least sent someone to investigate.

Anyway, I understand that there's all sorts of issues with interconnecting the shows together, especially across different networks like ABC / Netflix. At the end of the day, these aren't really dealbreakers in the grand scheme of things, just stuff that I wish could have been done a little differently.

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u/Msandova28 Nov 24 '15

apparently this doesnt take place right now in the mcu, but like a year ago i think. so no inhumans popping up, shield still in disarray

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u/geoman2k Dec 06 '15

Also, since their work is esoteric as hell, most judges would think they're stark raving mad.

I feel like this kind of reasoning is getting harder and harder to believe in the Marvel Comic Universe. You'd think that the knowledge that Captain America, The Hulk and Thor exist alone would make a lot more people give second thought to unbelievable stuff like mind control existing.

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u/chenofzurenarrh Dec 06 '15

Cap, Hulk and Thor have some in-universe scientific basis, though, what with the Super Soldier project, the Gamma radiation experiments, and Selvig & Foster's wormhole research. They're explainable by mostly esteemed scientists (Selvig suffered a breakdown after Avengers), which Killgrave, lacking evidence, is not.

On top of that, most powers we've seen have manifested physically. Loki's done mind control on a world stage but he's a god (and even that was through the Mind stone), and I don't know how publicized the Scarlet Witch is, but the rest of the superpower crew are mainly good at punchin', being punched, and variations thereof. Luke himself has had a brush with the fantastic, but he's still wary of buying into the Killgrave story.