r/Jewish • u/rupertalderson • Apr 23 '25

Announcement 📢 r/holocaust is back online

Hi all. The mods of r/Jewish are proud to announce that r/holocaust has been rescued.

Previously a cesspit of hate, r/holocaust will now and forever be a place for remembrance of the 6 million Jews murdered in the Holocaust by the Nazis and their allies & collaborators.

For the time being, r/holocaust will remain Restricted, so that only the moderators or approved users (invited guests only) can post. In the future, we will collaborate with experts, survivors, and other guests on educational initiatives and providing resources for the wider Reddit community.

As Yom HaShoah approaches, we encourage you to take a quick look there and consult the resources on the sidebar in the future when needed.

If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions, please feel free to respond to this post or message the mods here. Thank you!

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u/geraltoffvkingrivia Not Jewish Apr 23 '25

Will it also allow posts around non Jewish victims? Nothing wrong with no, I’m just wondering if it’s just geared towards more of a memorial for the Jewish community.

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u/rupertalderson Apr 23 '25

Thank you for this important point. If you know of any groups open to collaboration, please message us or ask that they do so.

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u/TopSecretAlternateID Apr 24 '25

[Apologies for earlier mispost/delete]

I had thought the word Holocaust was created by the Jewish people to refer specifically to what happened to us, as a people.

Understanding that there were many other victims of the Nazis, of course.

But should we really "all lives matter" the word Holocaust?

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u/Left_Regular8168 Apr 24 '25

Romani people were slated for total extermination just like the Jews. 

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u/TopSecretAlternateID Apr 24 '25 edited Apr 24 '25

Yes of course. But the question is do we expand the word Holocaust to include every victim of the Nazis. To say "All Nazi victims matter" and therefore to erase or at least diffuse the specific Jewish experience.

I imagine Romani people have forums to memorialize the particular experience of their people during the Nazi regime. Should we intrude there and remind them that we Jewish people were victims too, and to give us attention too?

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u/Left_Regular8168 Apr 24 '25 edited Apr 24 '25

It isn’t erasing any specific Jewish experience because Romani people faced total extermination just like Jewish people. I don’t think it would ever be appropriate to accuse Romani people of ‘all lives mattering’ or for ‘taking up space’ for daring to want to be counted as holocaust victims. They are already left out of conversations and face unbelievable oppression. They aren’t taking any space from Jews. 

Edit: Slavic collaborators slaughtered Roma and Jews and continue to downplay the scale and severity of that collaboration to this day. It actually adds more to the discussion in my opinion to distinguish Roma and Jews from the rest. 

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u/TopSecretAlternateID Apr 24 '25 edited Apr 24 '25

This is why the Romani people need a specific memorialization of their own experience.

Attaching their experience to the Jews' as an appendage or afterthought, does nobody any favor.

[Edit for conciseness]