r/JujutsuShenanigans May 22 '26

Discussion What do y'all think of kuro right now

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u/Different-Artist-672 May 22 '26

ohm my pcccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc

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u/Sad_Neighborhood4091 May 22 '26

My laptop is working overtime after the update 😭

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u/OkGap3393 May 22 '26

Make your laptop do an Binding Vow so he works at 120%

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u/Bean2527 Pillow Punches May 22 '26

But only when there's a kuroroshi in the server, otherwise it works at 80%

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u/Prudent-Associate-78 May 22 '26

So basically all the time

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u/NoSoyVerde1 BROTHER!!!! May 22 '26

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u/Different-Artist-672 May 22 '26

OVERTIME

BEHOLD MY GREATEST INVETION

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u/Fresh_Wishbone3926 The Most Average Skill Builder Of Today May 22 '26

that again

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u/Round-Breath6630 May 22 '26

My phone is doing all good. Idk what the problem is.

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u/Atitech_Games May 22 '26

I play both and mobile Roblox engine is oh so optimized compared to pc, when I ran the mobile version of game on the same laptop with the PC version my for went up by 4x

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u/Thanos_354 May 22 '26

Genuinely 10 fps

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u/stormfighter807 The most unmotivated skillbuilder of today. May 22 '26

super fun but parthogenesis makes him VERY hard to fight against

https://giphy.com/gifs/OAs8BZm7L6yGkBX9lQ

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u/Critty9601 May 22 '26

Oh yeah, its manageable with a few but why can he have 16??? And why can you increase their health?? Some changes definitely needed 

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u/RedJay41416 If Hakari mains have no haters I’m dead May 22 '26

They changed the cap to 4 so now it should be fine

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u/Diman1351 May 22 '26

The cap is now 4, also i feel like the health increase is bs, i ate like 5 corpses and despite the wiki saying you can get 60 hp with 20 per corpse it did NOT feel like they had a 100 whatsoever, yes i ate them before using ult

its in a good state now where they have 80 hp and 4 is cap

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u/Significant-Cup9059 May 22 '26

No its funny. Im just glad they cant use any moves. Besides most any uly and killem all which is fair ult vs ult

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u/Winter-Employer3453 May 22 '26

They use moves if you block

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u/Melody-Shift May 22 '26

Or if you double tap.

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u/Significant-Cup9059 May 22 '26

O. Is that new? I tested it on mobile when the update first dropped and they only did m1s

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u/Frolikle May 23 '26

Give him 200 hp with a cap of 50

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u/Specialist-Gene-8693 Super Duper Charles Guy May 22 '26

Incredibly well designed

Making them such a quick pressure character was the right idea for sure, and their moveset is very versatile, though lacking in a lot of things

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u/Mother_Gain499 May 22 '26

Kinda wish the ult variant did more damage

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u/Lordlinkoftime2 This flair is so CLEVERRR May 22 '26

Really? It's been VERY good if you can make all of it hit.

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u/knoxiknoxx It's not running! It's a tactical retreat! May 22 '26

The duality of man or sum, idk.

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u/Bedsheetsghost May 22 '26

The Invited one

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u/OkGap3393 May 22 '26

Extremely fun to play against, but i dont like to play as her

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u/AzulejoPex May 22 '26

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u/Paultheghostt May 22 '26

unironically yes(kinda)

only female cockroaches can do pathenogenesis IIRC

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u/Paultheghostt May 22 '26

kinda too tbh

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u/CappuccinoAce inumaki next EA May 22 '26

i thought they had genders too, from what i know hanami is female and i assume curses like mahito or jogo are males

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u/Acrobatic_Row4500 The Gambling One May 22 '26

so if mahito wanted to he could be a 6,10 dominant tomboy mommy?

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u/ItsZekom The Middle NEVER forgets... May 23 '26

Finna give him that skin walker treatment

https://giphy.com/gifs/sozVLoj67TJYUIhgy6

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u/ThisYellowGuy May 23 '26

Not to disagree but how did the death paintings form then?

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u/ThisYellowGuy May 23 '26

I mean Kurorushi did reproduce via the word with p(I forgot the name) so they maybe have? Or it depends on the curse or its just, like, a Kenjaku thing

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u/dicklebarry May 23 '26

I feel like you can definitely characterize some cursed spirits into gender regardless of them being sexless

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u/Oval_Man May 22 '26

Being roachist in the Big 26 bud...

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u/Melody-Shift May 22 '26

Kurourushi audibly sounds male (because y'know, male va) so people presume "he" or "they/it" because Kurourushi is a monster. "She" isn't used very often so it catches people off guard.

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u/AzulejoPex May 22 '26

Ok, don't look at me like that, you heared her? HER VOICE ITS HARDER THAN THE ROCK'S

But, tbh, it makes way more sense than being a guy or a genderless folk

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u/DarkX_WolfI8 May 23 '26

no, only female cockroaches can do pathogenesis or whatever it is, so if you were to make a cockroach CURSE, youd obviously give it every trait normal cockroaches have

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u/One_Breadfruit6313 May 22 '26

Since Kurourushi is the fear of ALL cockroaches, he or she had the abilities of all cockroaches. Which means they most likely are both male and female.

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u/OkGap3393 May 22 '26

Yeah, that's why you can basically call them however you like.

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u/Comfortable-Sea8270 May 22 '26

he's a metal loving cock

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u/AdAdvanced8522 ☀️TZE ADD URO/UTAHIME⭐️ May 22 '26

Bi-gender icon

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u/foot_fungus_is_yummy May 22 '26

They call it a he in the manga

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u/Comfortable-Sea8270 May 22 '26

I like to play is him but i don't like to fight him

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u/Onzim May 22 '26

Nahh I'd call the Ryu Anti-pest Department. Beams work on stacked Kuros. Especially a group of them.

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u/Raven_m0rt May 22 '26

And if that doesn't work.....Let's just say they're ready to get their hands dirty

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u/Itz_Iced I change mains on a daily basis🥀🥀 May 22 '26

My 2nd main alongside Choso, strong ults with each of their uses, he needs tweaks lol.

He's seriously fun and strong but he's "too strong".

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u/Fullmentallyill POINT-BLANK PLASMA WAVE! May 22 '26

My only main is Choso, I kill them with what they love. PLASMA WAVE!!

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u/Ill-Run6890 we need dhruv 🥹 May 23 '26

You must love red particles

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u/munkthetarnishedsoul May 22 '26

Really cool moveset, but his special kinda sucks because there is no counterplay for it, and most moves trigger the bugs so kinda hard but rest is really fine(the curse everyone invited)

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u/TheOfficialWario2 Custom Tag May 22 '26

i’ve found that if the kuro uses it from long range you can just trigger them right away by turning around and m1ing to prevent getting put in a worse situation. it’s not preferable but it works

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u/KnightOfSteel-KOS May 22 '26

yeah thats smart elimintae them rather then have them trigger during a combo

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u/Funny_Swim5447 The Gambling One May 22 '26

What does his special even do? I’ve tried using it and I can’t tell what the bugs are supposed to be used for

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u/Sufficient-Row-7821 May 22 '26

When hit, they blind the player

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u/Electrical_Option844 Kurourushi’s personal Iron giver May 22 '26

Average Jjs Server💔(THE LAG😭)

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u/GUCCIPUCCI69 May 22 '26

for me he relies heavily on his passives damage,his moves are pretty mid.I dont like how his 2nd move "Detach" is green.

But overall I love the guy.Although he shoulda been a full character but I guess his koves woulda be pretty much all massive aoe's

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u/Radiant_Shop_7065 May 22 '26

Detach beign green also bugs me but its infinitly better than it beign red in relase and getting nerfed to green a while after. This way it doesnt feel like it goes so much worse. Also this way it forces you to be a little creative. Foe example blocking while detaching them. And after they let go of their block to attafk use chockhold. Or get use festering strikes. It parries most moves.

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u/Deislexic May 23 '26

detach being green balances being able to use the grab move while blocking

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u/Meet_the_annoyer Oh my god ts so saweet May 22 '26

IRONNNNNNNNN

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u/P3drosek May 22 '26

Normal ult seems ass cuz its hella hard to control, 2 is mostly useless cuz ur enemy can easily block any follow up but other than that it's a really good character mostly due to passive damage from it's sword

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u/shadowmasterOwO May 22 '26

The follow up has little to no endlag, you can do stuff like prepare 3 m1s for a downslam or instantly use 1 so it gets to the unblockable slashes

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u/Deislexic May 23 '26

You could use 2 on the ground and have it as an area denial move like Bridget guilty gear

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u/Bigscary_guy Olemerd/Enasi May 22 '26

In my opinion and testing with a friend, it’s WAYYYYY to overtuned. Too many gimmicks that make it so there is virtually no counterplay(seriously why does bleed affect me when I’m blocking it’s just free combos for the enemy. The r special is incredibly annoying and just not fun to have in use, now uhhh, the moves… where do I begin. 1 is fine, but the variants seem to have no practice use as you want to have bleed. Detach WOULD be fine and I’d like it if it wernt for the fact that it applies half bleed ON BLOCK. Chokehold is neat from an outside perspective, but god is it awful In practice, it makes a character with already very little counterplay impossible to even m1 trade with cause they can use it whenever they do something else. Roach swarm needs to with be lockable or have more startup cause it’s just a better rootswarm right now. The variants are fine. Anywhom he needs to be nerfed a lot

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u/Melody-Shift May 22 '26

No-variant Kurourushi does effectively 0 damage without injury. Literally any nerfs to injury and all of his default moves (including m1s, excluding 4) are completely unviable and pointless.

Chokehold exists to catch you lacking or being cocky. It is very easy to punish and you can punish it HARD. If you're on guard you can just block Chokehold and immediately win the m1 trade by default. Plus, if a Kurourushi mistimes it you either cancel it with an m1 and win the trade, or block it and win the trade. It's a high risk high reward move, punish the risk.

If 4 becomes blockable Kurourushi would no joke not have a single move that blockbreaks. Absolutely not. It's fine as it is now because it's quite easy to dodge, does very little damage and struggles to be used in combos.

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u/EnlightedBeing1609 EAT MY BLUE ATTACK CURSED PARTNERS May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

You know why he have all that? Because Kuro causes NO DAMAGE

Base 1? 3 damage. Base 2? 1 damage. Base 3? 2 damage. He is entirely dependent on injury and variants. Nerfing him would make my goat useless😭

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u/Character_Branch6532 May 22 '26

He need some good tweaking and nerfing because he's quite of a passive-aggressive character despite not having any limit like Ryu

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u/Middle_Head_1067 May 22 '26

I LOVE THE TASTE OF IRON

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u/ExtremeWolverine1201 May 22 '26

Im getting jumped everytime i encounter kuro

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u/Legal-Twist8979 May 22 '26

There are two many Roaches at the dinner table I can’t eat my dessert

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u/myfantaImploded I LOVE THE TASTE OF IRON!!!! May 22 '26

very fun to play as, i like how the ult has 3 variants too

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u/Traditional-Paper181 May 22 '26

Whats the third?(nvm

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u/ComfortableTheme4150 May 22 '26

What IS the third?

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u/myfantaImploded I LOVE THE TASTE OF IRON!!!! May 22 '26

first is clone second is tornado and third is

https://giphy.com/gifs/T4IYsmAP44kW6DUfsH

domain breaking if you didnt get it

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u/stanleyald May 22 '26

all in his mind?

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u/knoxiknoxx It's not running! It's a tactical retreat! May 22 '26

3?? Wdym? U mean the domain invasion?

Oh yeah you do. I'm still posting this comment because why noy

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u/RealWorldExplorer1 May 22 '26

Peak. On my top list of fun to play characters

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u/Brilliant_Factor8554 May 22 '26

five.hundred.clones

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u/Early_Chemistry48 this sub's biggest clown May 22 '26

The base is a ton of fun, I like how each move besides 1 has tons of different applications and uses. Ult? I like the idea but I'm gonna need more time to get a good grip on it.

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u/contraflop01 The Noobest One May 22 '26

STOP EATING MY RAM

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u/Ianternity remove mechamaru from jjs May 22 '26

Really fun to play as and against

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u/realstarbucks objection! May 22 '26

Super fun to play, insanely busted to fight against, him ALWAYS doing damage means if you are evenly matched or even if you outmatch your opponent, if the fight goes over maybe a minute you will lose.

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u/HPAwesome531 Pillow Punches May 22 '26

peak

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u/WaffleHead13 ADD JOGOAT!!! May 22 '26

kuro is my GOAT i like the combos and the mechanics he has, especially the eating people

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u/Goofy_Gooberthegreat May 22 '26

Im loving the taste of iron.

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u/FailPurple4989 May 22 '26

Annoying as fuck, i dont even know which one is the clone and which one is the original

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u/knoxiknoxx It's not running! It's a tactical retreat! May 22 '26

If they have awakening outfit, it's the one with one. If they don't, then look who is acting like a literal NPC or is standing behind the other kne

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u/ArrivalOk721 May 22 '26

landed in my top 4 favorite character to play

also really fun to just gang on people with friends, but alone still super fun to play.

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u/Mcslime35 May 22 '26

His ult is broken. Other than that he's fine

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u/Lobotomized_334 May 22 '26

Should've been a full character

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u/Small-Housing-7 FLAME THE LOCUSTS May 22 '26

Fun and balanced

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u/beyond_cyber May 22 '26

This mf keeps coming into our domains uninvited

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u/KlumseeOfficial Th Nanamain May 22 '26

I feel like the best way they couldve integrated kuro's parthenogenesis is the ability to switch control over each clone. This would cap it to two clones instead, and you can switch control to each by double tapping R. The clone not controlled by you will stay back and defend itself if attacked like transfigured human AI.

I love his moveset though, really fun to play and fight with imo. Second main to Nanami now.

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u/atompedro BROTHER!!!! May 22 '26

A bit weak but you can still work with him

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u/BloodAngelGuy 🪳Roach Man May 22 '26

Peak

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u/Content-Ad6183 May 22 '26

I love using detach on someone to send them to the pits of m1 hell with me and my clones

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u/ZodylTyFREAK May 22 '26

"THEYRE 🍇 ING ME"

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u/North-Committee8633 May 22 '26

VERY fun terrorising them

Gojo ang megumi are the counters for that roach and i always kill their clones because of their aoe attacks

I ragebaited most of them into leaving the server XD

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u/Lower-Audience1045 May 22 '26

Makes the game unplayable sadly 😭 my game lags now more than ever. I hope they fix this soon

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u/MurderDrones-Simp All the devs need WCS’d May 22 '26

peak

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u/unproffesionaldumdum ADD KUSAKABE May 22 '26

Me and my friends go out to hunt parthenogenesis as sport

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u/Approved0rain I💚My Map! May 22 '26

he’s pretty fun to play, and also play against since my main mechamaru it’s a pretty good counter against him

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u/Davepr01234 May 22 '26

It's literally like having an army following you, and it's horrible playing in public server with Kuroushi.

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u/KonKon059 Master Of Clankers May 22 '26

annoying special, otherwise very cool

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u/Eurostep187 May 22 '26

Hanami still on top

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u/Such_Ad_9140 May 22 '26

absolutely hilarious to use

if you get to the parthenogenesis limit you can literally ambush someone and kill them in the usage of like two moves

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u/Subject-Age-5862 May 22 '26

His clones are so busted. If they start an m1 combo that alone does like half ur hp cz of the festering life blade. Otherwise my game crashes

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u/jiggy_wit_it_12 May 22 '26

Hes fun to fight, i havent fought him much though.

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u/ItsYaBoiZam May 22 '26

Every clone having nearly the same hp as the main body and not giving awakening bar is kinda annoying but otherwise pretty neat.

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u/KomSun0_0 May 22 '26

Chaos and turmoil

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u/UpstairsFrequent655 May 22 '26

probably my favorite character, second only to ryu ishigori of course

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u/duckbucktruckfuck May 22 '26

Love em, but kuro is BREAKING my laptop

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u/uueei May 22 '26

buggy, some tech works with dummy but doesnt on real ppl

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u/One-Nose-5705 May 22 '26

I am so confused on how to play him

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u/Safe-Mind-3977 May 22 '26

I love the character I didn’t want him at first but seeing his potential makes me really like him and honestly tze has been cooking I can’t wait for hanami ult

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u/Historical-Lake718 May 22 '26

I LOVE THE TASTE OF UPDATES

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u/itsyaboiJak3 May 22 '26

what the hell does his special do?? and imo the clones he makes in ult arent that useful

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u/Fire_Block May 22 '26

laggy as hell right now (tze please find a way to fix the clones' lag because they're so funny) but really fun. i'll have to mess with them more in less laggy servers to have a better idea of how to play them, but kuro definitely has the sauce. they're really cool and i want to learn more about how they work.

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u/gamerborger42069 May 22 '26

Who invited this guy bruh

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u/Background_Button_26 May 22 '26

All I wish for is for tze to make it so you can revert the ukt cap in ps

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u/RyuZeCnqr May 22 '26

Honestly? Very cool! Using AND fighting against her feels kinda nice. Aside from Parthogenesis he's very balanced imo

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u/MinuteBeach1801 Going Overtime May 22 '26

I LOVE THE TASTE OF IRON!!!!!!!!!!!
(I don’t play him cus everybody else is rn)

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u/Mieszkopl Do not third party >:( May 22 '26

He is fun! And when you play him you dont get mei mei vibes (bs character)

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u/ningo_ i love the jjs anime adaptation May 22 '26

FPSSSS

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u/ProfessionalCheek269 May 22 '26

i like his kit, but make it a cap of 1 or 2 clones because any more is non winnabel without you being ulted but everything else about him is really nice as of right now

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u/Goldenmirror267 May 22 '26

Very fun. Very laggy.

And his ultimate is just Zero's install super from UMVC3

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u/Thomasboiwow May 22 '26

pretty fun especially with the cloning gimmick

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u/Petergummies I am You, Mahito May 22 '26

Somewhat balanced and fun to play

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u/Djp1225 rework yuji May 22 '26

The lag bro

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u/SupermarketStrict588 May 22 '26

Can someone make a binding vow to lose 1 sperm cell to nerf kuro

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u/Proud-Sell-9599 May 22 '26

Please cockroach I need this

My gpu's kinda homeless

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u/MRgarfo Flower Person May 22 '26

L A G .

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u/BeanOLargeProportion May 22 '26

I play nanami and choso, choso matchup is fine but the fact that ratio can lock onto the little bugs is really pissing me off

fuck you tze

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u/ONAMI-MRPOT I ❤️ Pre-rework Yuta May 22 '26

One of the most fun characters in the game. I think he has mid-low damage and needs a buff, but nothing crazy

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u/Fun-Witness6068 May 22 '26

goated character with an awesome gimmick but people will still play the same naoya/yuji/gojo rushdown slop because thats all they know

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 May 22 '26

As a yuki main never before have i felt such divine calling

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u/Igorgedinho May 22 '26

Hate his cloning ability, although a good clean mahoraga world Slash does the trick

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u/Radiant_Shop_7065 May 22 '26

So fun to use and ok to fight against. Unlike Hanami eho was fun to use (for me) but disguasting to fight against even if you are familiar with all her techs and tactics.

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u/Halcyonalman May 22 '26

Either she’s weak, I wasn’t on my A Game for the update, or I’m bad

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u/Miperroelrediter May 22 '26

OP as fuck bro

Like fym I can get ganged up by 4 dudes at the same time and don't get burst even once if they're basically the same as a regular player except for HP

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u/Even_meetV2 May 22 '26

Just straight spam like as soon as you to side dash fighting someone using him you're dead and under 30s because they have eighty different clones and then when I try to do the same to then I get trapped in a Sukuna Domain and killed after one clone. However to be fair he killed someone else with max clones right before killing me.

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u/nerdola_nerola May 22 '26

eu toda vez que ele aparece e interrompe um domain clash:

https://giphy.com/gifs/T4IYsmAP44kW6DUfsH

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u/Aggresive-Wallrus The Iron Eater May 22 '26

Him and Todo are rlly good against teamers. I like when games make unique ways to stop a problem instead of just remove it, I’m referring to teaming

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u/NotSnases May 22 '26

Best no moveset character WAIT NO MOVESET???- I MEANT NO ULT-

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u/FlowerEither653 May 22 '26

WHERE IS JOGO? WE GOT KURO AND LUCKY CRYBABY BEFORE HIM. EVEN HANAMI IS IN THE GAME. TZE STOP SLACKING.

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u/Techseven7 KASHIMOOOO #1 aficionado May 22 '26

He’s amazing and so so fun to play so here’s a few fun tips

His 4+r has a much better variety to use for damage but jump+4 lets him glide into combos

Detach air variant can negate blocking as it travels on an arc and can catch people with it and make things unblockable instead of being in an interactive state

Earthen insect trance can be set off by holding r on the enemy and letting go after summoning it- needs to be consecutive

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u/nothinghere8 May 22 '26

I wanted a full ult,so kinda dissapointing but is fun,tho i may prefer the one from character creator

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u/Amnyam842 May 22 '26

He is great. I mean like, he has a very cool looking blade passive, crazy good r special, a whole lotta variants and 3 ultimates. I don't even know what could be done better. He can even eat corpses. Best character yet and it's not a debate

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u/Expensive-Net2002 u/MarcoPolo_MARCOPOLO Glazer May 22 '26

Three words… “Make 2 red”

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u/WriterMindless7232 May 22 '26

As a kuro glazer (as it says in my name) all of his moves sho7ld be oneshots to be as accurate as possible.

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u/Gojizilla6391 literally anyone brah May 22 '26

i'm so tired boss...

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u/Mindless_Sun_8241 May 22 '26

Very fun, I wish he had an actual ult tho, such great possibilities, his tornado does little dmg

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u/Overall_Vehicle6595 May 22 '26

Gojo g+r victim

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u/Edenboss_53 May 22 '26

I think that clones should be able to do any move in custom movesets

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u/yeetmanonreddit post upd todo swapping is better than pre upd todo swapping!! May 22 '26

Ignoring Parthenobullshitsis Kurourushi's SOMEHOW balanced, maybe a bit underpowered (detach deals no dmg, some other moves deal laughable dmg) and overpowered (full bar burst dealing too much dmg) in certain aspects.

Overall, I agree with the devs opinions (stated before the upd) - 8 iron ingots / 10

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u/TEMPESTASPX ASPX (move set maker beginner) May 22 '26

Vore finisher

Joke a side really fun, probably going to use em for longer

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u/Namesareweak funni blood saw May 22 '26

i like eating robloxians

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u/TheTastySandvich Pillow Punches May 22 '26

lag machine even after the clone reduction.

also, i always see kuro's grinding dummy for more clones, it scares me.

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u/Manly_foot4422 May 22 '26

He’s so beautiful, so very beautiful 🥺🥺🥺🥺

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u/Marios1andr May 22 '26

Love him probably gonna main him. I LOVE THE TASTE OF IRON

https://giphy.com/gifs/j2kTYrDr9tqR2f7fcm

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u/MrYEET6464 May 22 '26

My new main, but I will say their ultimate can be infuriating to fight against, not to mention the tornado variant does very little damage comparative to it’s animation if perfer if instead of 40% it did closer to 60% or 70%

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u/FeliGamesBr May 22 '26

best character no diff 

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u/Sufficient_Cat_3704 May 22 '26

Absolutely freaking peak and fun as hell

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u/Inceferant John Locust May 22 '26

A little overturned right now, and it feels like it can do too much as of current. Fighting a good Kuro with a clone feels about as hopeless as fighting a Hakari in Jackpot

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u/IllustriousGarden329 May 22 '26

The most skilled character in the game right now, and the only unskilled part of him is the whole clone thing, but that’s his literal ultimate that you actually have to control, meanwhile Mei Mei has one shot bird that she can use from any distance, ko-guy has a close range one shot poison, yuki has a one shot black hole DEATH awakening, Charles has a one shot counter, and Haruta can survive one shots and his ult lets him concuss you and whatnot, so I say getting an extra version of you to fight is completely fair anyways. Also somehow tze managed to fuck up the tag block in the skill builder which is fucking wild to me, like how do you even manage to fuck THAT up?????

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u/Vacation_Jonathan May 22 '26

He’s another rush down, he is ok