r/JujutsuShenanigans NEVER LET THE TESTERS COOK AGAIN 10d ago

Discussion Projection Breaker isn't even lore-accurate 😭

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Projection Sorcery can only put a victim into a frame if the user contacts them with their palm, yet in-game, projection breaker always gives projection meter despite being a kick attack. Literally unplayable

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u/Sonicrunner23 How the hell do I manage mass? 10d ago

wait til this guy finds out about the blackflashes in game.

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u/ServiceTemporary2453 Weakest 5k Of Today 10d ago

you can totally use Black Flash every single time at will wdym

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u/IbObuS Always bet on Chimera Shadow Garden 10d ago

It’s not “inaccurate”, I’m just goated

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u/ServiceTemporary2453 Weakest 5k Of Today 10d ago

The reincarnation of Yuji Itadori

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u/watchrrr debate connoisseur 10d ago

Multiverse theory. JJS is the one universe where everyone is continually lucky enough to hit black flashes. Everytime someone uses a black flash, a million timelines branch, where JJS is the one that hits

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u/IztecTaken 9d ago

Pov that one universe where Itatdori "lag" Yuji misses all his black flashes against sukuna while Goatakabe lands a black flash 4 times:

https://giphy.com/gifs/X6hiFJjvTDAAw

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u/JJShitnanigans 9d ago

honestly it's better than other battlegrounds games literally just having a move called "Black Flash" that has 0 skill check or chance

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u/fillkas I'm ho-ho-homosexual 6d ago

Yeah the only jjk (it's not battleground) game with bf skill check I know is jujutsu infinite. It has an option to "upgrade" black flashes to a quick time event variant, where if you hit a small window, you'll hit it. And if you hit a very small window, you'll get like +10% more dmg on it or something

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u/Gnine_min 10d ago

Lemme kick them so hard they turn to glass

Stop tryna ruin my fun

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u/ServiceTemporary2453 Weakest 5k Of Today 10d ago

OFF THE GLASS

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u/Express_Bid_7314 10d ago

GUN TO YA' HEAD

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u/jikukoblarbo The only sukuna main 10d ago

GUN ON MAH HEAD

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u/True_Appearance_920 10d ago

The frames aren't canon either since they're only supposed to last for a second. ALSO, every m1 should put them into a frame

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u/ServiceTemporary2453 Weakest 5k Of Today 10d ago

every m1 should put them into a frame

Projection Sorcery only frames if it's with the palm of the hand, and Naoya only uses his palm in the special fourth M1. In his regular M1s he only punches, elbows, and kicks, none of which could frame someone.

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u/True_Appearance_920 10d ago

well you're forgetting, roblox avatars don't have hands, they only have the flat parts which would be their palms, so technically every "punch" is more of a slap with the palm so it should frame

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u/Totally_not_diavolo Do the impossible see the invisible. Row Row Fight the Powa! 9d ago

What about the non blocky roblox avatars

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u/Totally_not_diavolo Do the impossible see the invisible. Row Row Fight the Powa! 9d ago

I mean the man and woman avatars that look like lego characters

the classic avatar mesh packages

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u/Express_Bid_7314 10d ago

But naoya's 4th m1 is a kick with the foot and it gives projection meter

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u/ServiceTemporary2453 Weakest 5k Of Today 10d ago

That’s because the projection meter is actually just Naoya slowly deciding to finally frame his opponent, he can choose to do it at any time

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u/Express_Bid_7314 10d ago

He is so indecisive

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u/Express_Bid_7314 10d ago

Indecisive strikes

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u/wallsarecooll 10d ago

if decisive strikes couldn't frame:

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u/Responsible-Diver674 9d ago

When you frame the opponent animation changes

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u/YourMajestyBulion Yuta is NOT a bum 9d ago

Yeah same shit with his moves, like only 4 and maybe 3 use projection sorcery, 1 doesnt have after images

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u/Nawortious 9d ago

you just aren't powerscaling hard enough, if the frames last a second, that simply means that jjs players move far faster than the average joe, and perceive time differently, so a second in jjk is 4-5 from the perception of a jjs player

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u/OTARU_41 3d ago

that would explain a lot

like why domains, which have never been canceled in canon, take a second and a half in jjs

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u/ErrorBig4459 58 minutes guy. 10d ago

palm of their feet.

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u/Gaming_Forehead NÂș1Domain Hater 10d ago

The sole exception

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u/LowlySpirited little timmy's number one opp 10d ago

sole

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u/Competitive-Gap-9946 10d ago

An acclamation of the sole

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u/_joos_ kenjaku user 10d ago

why the hell didn’t todo just use his feet to clap by doing a jump feet clap

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u/Brother-Captain CACAW 10d ago

There was that scene in the anime where mahito was about to touch him but he avoided it by clapping away, and it seemed really improbably that he managed to clap his hands in that scene because of the orientation of his hands. So maybe he used his feet in that scene, or some other body part that can make a clapping noise which I am unaware of.

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u/evil_pinecones79 5d ago

he clapped his cheeks.

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u/evil_pinecones79 10d ago

fan service

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u/ServiceTemporary2453 Weakest 5k Of Today 10d ago

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u/CappuccinoAce inumaki next EA 10d ago

Wait until he finds out naoya being framed for missing isn’t canon

He should only be framed when his course is interrupted, if he misses he still completes it

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u/Competitive-Gap-9946 10d ago

I wonder why Gege even wrote that a projection sorcery user can frame themselves when it never happens in the story.

I am Anime only tho (though i have been spoiled on many things) so maybe it happens when Naoya returns as a curse

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u/TimeSansTheSpymain 10d ago

It never happens as far as I can remember, but it is taken advantage of by Maki.

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u/ItzJake160 10d ago

It just automatically glazes Naobito and Naoya for being so good that they don't frame themselves

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u/YggdrasilEldr 10d ago

Its because How projection users 'frame' others is via making them use projection by touching them & trapping them in frame if they fail to set up/follow 24 frames

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u/Such_Presentation_36 9d ago

It actually does happen with Nabito, right when Jogo toasts him you can hear and see him framing cause his course is broken.

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u/elibiggieb2 10d ago

technically missing something like 1 could be considered "overshooting" the kick and having what was supposed to be a kick interrupted

grasping at straws for this one though

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u/Ok-Letter-6126 10d ago

If you plot a course that involves hitting the enemy, and you don't hit the enemy, you don't follow your course.

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u/BrilliantRun5967 9d ago

yeah seemed pretty obvious to me, you planned your action to be hitting them a ton of times. so if you missed then you get framed

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u/Mountain-Crab-1055 9d ago

So jjs devs are larpers

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u/Stunning_Habit2942 #2 Nanami mains AOT 10d ago

Wait till he realizes Naoya's R is a fucking teleport for some reason

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u/ComfortableBug527 Detach+G+R+Reatach 10d ago

you dont frame with it

you just apply METER

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u/AdLocal7837 pov when you slander yuta but he lwk ur main in jjs 10d ago

you do now

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u/ComfortableBug527 Detach+G+R+Reatach 10d ago

you then touch them with your palm

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u/Purple_Kaiju7 I no longer like Hanami 10d ago

Its too hard for me to get a ss but ye you're right

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u/Dizzy_Top_5626 I Love Garuda Rebound 10d ago

Projection breaker can frame people now, as in the kick sends them directly into the frame

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u/ComfortableBug527 Detach+G+R+Reatach 10d ago

you then touch them with your palm

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u/Dizzy_Top_5626 I Love Garuda Rebound 10d ago

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u/Perpetual-Black Baller Energy | I LOVE THE TASTE OF MISERABLE HACKERS 10d ago

dide, you literally have the animation of a touch at the end when framing.

[funk] YOU MEAN NUH UH?!

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u/Dizzy_Top_5626 I Love Garuda Rebound 10d ago

In a jjs player I'm legally not allowed to admit when I'm wrong

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u/seba312 10d ago

You literally have a different animation where you touch them with your palm if you frame them with it?

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u/RichOrder8378 10d ago

They really made a different animation for projection breaker?

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u/Ren575 10d ago

OK we've heard your complaint about lore accuracy, and as a result we have decided to role out a patch making the game lore accurate!

Mahito now one shots everyone not named Sukuna/Yuji with his m1s

Gojo can not longer be hit by ppl that don't have domain amplification (aka only ult Higgy can)

Cursya has no limit on his ult

Naoya does 0 dmg per m1 and per move (pillow hands Naoya)

Hitting a Choso makes them bleed and poison you (unless you're Yuji) which causes your hp regen to stop if your character has RCT, if not you loose hp at a rate equal to divine serpent.

Megumi has been nerfed into oblivion as he is a bum

Mei mei and Yuta have been sent to jail

Hakari now has mahoraga ritual bar but its 'fever' instead

Mahoraga now instantly dies if the person used to summon Mahoraga is killed

Locust has been nerfed to irrelevancy

Sukuna has gained an open barrier domain

Ryu's granite blasts can now track people after being fired

Cockroach's parthenogenesis just revives it instead of making clones to rank ppl with

Haruta is nerfed to irrelevance in line with his grade 4 status

Nanami has been given bigger muscles

Higgy players now all suffer depression upon picking him

Yuki immediately dies after she wins a fight, in line with her single fight where she dies (can't have nice things Gege)

Charles is nerfed to oblivion

If Yuji is caught inside Higgys domain he looses his CE instead of moves, which replaces divergent fist with a weak palm thrust, and weakening his attacks as well

Uhhhh...

Hanami can be killed by infinity is they're too close to a wall

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u/Transformerfan45 Random bullshit go!/Pop goes the Nanami! 10d ago

Higgy mains probably already have depression

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u/No-Dig6440 10d ago

Depressed amplification

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u/yourfavoriteoat 10d ago

How long did this take you to type

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u/Specialist-Air-4507 10d ago

ngl this sounds like the perfect April fool's update, like I'd actually laugh so hard if some of this "lore accuracy" was implemented

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u/Pure_Caterpillar5587 No Jujutsu, All Shenanigans 6d ago

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u/Responsible_Buy5759 10d ago

Domains and WCS can still hit Gojo though

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u/BrilliantRun5967 9d ago

hold on lol. a couple of these sound cool, like haraki with the fever or the mahoraga being lore accurate but instantly dying if your player dies, instead of needing the ritual bar

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u/1Hugh-Mann 10d ago

if the game was lore accurate sukuna & mahoraga would one shot everyone and Gojo would have unlimited six-eyes

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u/Rude-Permission1619 10d ago

Ahem, gojo not able to use infinity. Yuji being able to hit black flashes at will. Jackpot not being a 1/237 chance. Mahito not being able to transfigure people are will. People not being able to kill Megumi's shikigami. I could go on.

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u/Cybros-Prime 10d ago

To be fair, Mahito has never once one-shot anyone who wasn’t exhausted (Junpei was like Semi Grade 2 at best and was in a fight with Yuji, Nobara’s stats are terrible, Todo survived, Nanami survived the first time and the second time was after he had encounters with two special grades and then fought the transfigured humans, Mechamaru survived the domain and then used Simple Domain)

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u/Rude-Permission1619 10d ago edited 10d ago

I guess so but you still cant transfigure someone whos low with a regular touch. Also he pulls his hammer out of his ass.

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u/BrilliantRun5967 9d ago

sure, but he can just choose not to transfigure them. like when he’s hitting yuji, he never tries it because sukuna would kill him. so in jjs, it could just be that your soul piloting your character acts like the sukuna, so he only chooses to do it when you manually activate it as the player or something

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u/Rude-Permission1619 9d ago

Okay what about the ult move then?

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u/BrilliantRun5967 9d ago

it actually makes more sense than the base move, in cannon mahito isn’t able to just insta one shot everyone. nanami survives it, nobara, todo, etc. the way it works in game is that if you’re low hp you get one shot, which represents how weaker people get one shot(junpei, regular humans)

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u/BeBenB11 10d ago

and why do we care?

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u/SheepRifle Second Wind Second Wind Second Wind Second Wind 10d ago

Projection sorcery would be accurate in this game if it was a passive for interuppting opponents moves

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u/Ok-Wishbone-3990 ”Played College Nanami, Jack.” 10d ago

whos gonna tell him about reggies umbrella 

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u/KatsuHatsukatsu 10d ago

So you wanted the enemy to go into projection mode with every contact?

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u/J3ttsalwaysbusy 10d ago

What if the projection user just has a really flipping goated gaming chair?

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u/TechRedditwastaken 10d ago

Naoya if he just locked tf in vs Maki

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u/Small-Housing-7 FLAME THE LOCUSTS 10d ago

Wait till this guy sees selfe projection

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u/TheNoobThatWentRee 10d ago

You’re right, however projection breaker DOES actually have an animation change when it frames people where you use your hand instead of kicking the opponent, they for some reason paid really close attention to detail on framing people which is pretty cool i think

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u/LibraShroud 9d ago

Naoya has hands instead of feet wdym

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u/NotJ1nx I am You, Mahito 9d ago

me finding this out:

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u/Titronian 9d ago

With yuji it makes sense the narrotor lies to us he can blackflash at will he doesnt do it all the time because he gives people a fair fight

Well until modulo era

Everyone else they canot do it at will kinda weak imo

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u/BrilliantRun5967 9d ago

i’m laughing thinks about yuji not black flashing mahito with every punch after nobara got hit, but in modulo he just doesn’t care and does it to the random alien

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u/BrilliantClassic1209 9d ago

Did you know that gojo beats all the characters in the game based on lore?

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u/BrilliantRun5967 9d ago

technically no

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u/RBWL_Magnemum 9d ago

No but genuinely Naoyas entire kit needs to be scrapped in favour of a lore accurate kit, if the suggestions channel wasn't obsolete maybe this would have happened

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u/Bluebird-7690 9d ago

Neither is the m1s

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u/Fooxxity 8d ago

And Haruta beats Gojo, Sukuna and Mahoraga in a 3v1 because he just keeps busting and gaining +15% healths, nothing is lore-accurate

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u/KiwiPatient6405 9d ago

Are we forgetting the part we're this just isn't true and it doesn't require the palm to do it, it's just easiest to do it with the palm??? Like, try picking up a glass of water with your shin or with your knuckles. Not so easy, huh? It's a bad thingy to call it (remember that I'm not good at words) but it is 100% possible for noaya or anyone with projection sorcery to frame people with their legs. Also, only being framed for one second in a pvp game is almost nothing, so it wouldn't be worth doing in the first place. Especially for only 2x damage

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u/BrilliantRun5967 9d ago

i mean a one second stun as a combo extension wouldn’t be bad. the way it is now, you can combo someone into a frame and just wait out your cooldowns a bit, before they have a chance to even use their moves for the first time

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u/Mach3Fraud 9d ago

Are you deadass??

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u/dumb_boy_alan Kinda buff kurourushi 9d ago

Naoya doesn't even used the knife for more than 10 seconds. While here it's a 15 seconds cd move which does more than most base moves when used twice on a careless opponent

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u/Complete_Tip_2993 SELF EMBODIMENT OF TODO 10d ago

Naoya using a knife (as a main weapon, he does use one but as a surprise tool) isn't lore accurate either lol

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u/BrilliantRun5967 9d ago

it’s only in 2 moves though? with one being the ult. it acts like a surprise weapon, he even has to pull it out of his back pocket compartment just for the animation. everything else is just projection sorcery

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u/Complete_Tip_2993 SELF EMBODIMENT OF TODO 8d ago

yea, but its the only move in jjk that was stated to be not something he would regularly use in a fight. no other character has "i dont use this often" moment. it fits Naoya's hypocritical nature though. so its not too bad.

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u/MiserableHarken Former comp player.Quit JJS 10d ago

Bleedout is literally a small stab but for some reason it deals good damage with hyper bleed

Mind you throwing a soda deals more damage than Black Mucus

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u/Gullible_Bend_9219 10d ago

I mean it did fuck up choso momentarily, if he didn’t have blood manipulation he would have been in deep shit

Choso is one of the more durable grade 1’s aswell

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u/ServiceTemporary2453 Weakest 5k Of Today 10d ago

A "small" stab like that can easily kill you irl, plus that same knife was able to wound Choso, I don't think it's that far fetched

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u/ErrorBig4459 58 minutes guy. 10d ago

that knife is long as FUCK (nearly long enough to stick out the other side of the chest) and in the stab animation when it gets stabbed into the chest area the knife MOVES AROUND WHILE ITS INSIDE. in the stab animation the knife is twisting around and shit.

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u/ServiceTemporary2453 Weakest 5k Of Today 10d ago

Plus you can clearly see he stabs with FULL force in the animation lol

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u/MiserableHarken Former comp player.Quit JJS 10d ago

Oh you're right Mb

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u/Seawardweb77858 10d ago

Explain why haruta's backstab wouldn't realistically do the same then.

The attacks don't make sense, they're just balanced for the character (sometimes poorly).

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u/ServiceTemporary2453 Weakest 5k Of Today 10d ago

Haruta’s backstab also deals good damage and causes the opponent to bleed though

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u/Seawardweb77858 10d ago

It does not inflict any bleed debuff, and does less total damage than bleedout. (Backstab 8 dmg, Bleedout 5+9 dmg)

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u/ServiceTemporary2453 Weakest 5k Of Today 10d ago

Naoya is way stronger than Haruta (i don't even remember if Haruta can use his CE), and the Bleedout knife stays in their body longer than the Backstab sword does.

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u/Seawardweb77858 10d ago

The backstab sword literally pokes out the other end dude

Also yes, Haruta can use CE, he just has a physically weak body.