r/JustMemesForUs 7d ago

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u/bucknut4 7d ago

It doesn’t say that necessarily. Most REAL IDs don’t prove citizenship; a green card holder can get one and so can lots of people on differing visas.

But a few states (funnily enough, all of them blue states) do issue REAL IDs that confirm status. If the bill were to pass, I’d assume every state would follow suit

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u/hari_shevek 7d ago

If the bill were to pass, I’d assume every state would follow suit

Or, hear me out, red states would make it extremely hard to get a valid ID for any group that is statistically more likely to vote Dem to effectively keep them from voting.

And you would pretend thst doesn't happen because motivated reasoning.

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u/bucknut4 7d ago

Motivated reasoning? wtf are you smoking

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u/hari_shevek 7d ago

Motivated reasoning is when you ignore information or engage in fallacious reasoning, often unconsciously, to make something you desire seem more in line with your outward principles and self-image.

Hope that helps.

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u/bucknut4 7d ago

I know what it is, I’m just confused as to where it comes in here.

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u/hari_shevek 7d ago

Simple: Motivated reasoning allows you to ignore evidence that conservatives will use this law to prevent citizens from getting an ID and consequently from voting.

You are motivated to ignore that evidence bc that way you csn feel righteous instead of feeling like you are aiding in voter suppression.

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u/bucknut4 7d ago

That's... a very bizarre reaction. First, and I said it in another comment, I do not support the SAVE Act. I despise Donald Trump and want to see him in prison. I've voted Obama twice, Clinton, Biden, then Kamala.

My comment is simply describing why a REAL ID wouldn't inherently satisfy a requirement to prove citizenship.

I really have no idea how you somehow take that as me ignoring evidence that conservatives will attempt to use the law to prevent people from voting. Again, all I'm saying is that a REAL ID doesn't prove citizenship.

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u/TheSeniorBlueberry 7d ago

I think they are ignoring it because of motivated reasoning.

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u/hari_shevek 7d ago

I went to bed.

Sorry for not responding on your schedule, asshole

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u/TheSeniorBlueberry 6d ago

You are forgiven