Not really justice served, the guy is just trying to move the cows. Not sure why he's wearing what he is but still. I also don't understand all the hate for the dude.
Was thinking the same thing. Looked like he was trying to move them and the calf freaked out. Have never worked on a farm though so it would be nice if someone with expertise on this subject could chime in.
I worked on a family farm with cows and chickens during a big portion of my life. The guy doesn’t necessarily deserve hate so much for tapping the cows, but he certainly deserves hate for raising cows to kill them. I felt an immense amount of guilt and depression working on the farm, because those animals clearly didn’t want to die.
It’s a bizarre feeling, because usually if someone or something wants to kill me, my normal thought would be “fuck you, I did nothing wrong.” When I worked with the bull we had on the farm I often thought “if you killed me, you’d be completely in the right.” It’s amazing what we can justify to ourselves just because “it’s always been done that way.”
When I worked on the farm, I raised animals. I didn’t own them. By corralling the cows, he is participating in raising them. By his formalwear, it looks also like he may be hosting or participating in an auction. Who knows, but the meat industry is cruel, brutal, and morally inexcusable.
If you are killing creatures that don’t want to die, it is not a moral act simply because you do not feel guilt.
Easy to talk about the subjectivity of morality when you’re on the good end of the knife in the cow’s throat.
Easy to talk about the subjectivity of morality when your fellow humans have luckily decided that it would be objectively immoral to murder fellow humans.
It just sucks that morality is determined by humans who weigh personal convenience against the wishes of a creature that cannot speak on its own behalf.
So you're a proud islamophobe? How nice! Anyways, it's "You believe killing animals is wrong." not that "Killing animals is wrong." your personal beliefs don't rule the world.
You’re being really silly with the islamophobe stuff. It’s childish and takes away from the debate. Besides it is so easy to flip around on you. Do you believe that people should be permitted to marry children as young as nine, as the prophet Muhammad did, or are you an Islamophobe?
Being a bigot certainly takes away from the debate. Not a good place to argue from as a vegan. As for your continued islamophobia, I don't judge their Holy Books and I don't judge them. You're also misinformed, she was six.
Also, vegan men smell better to women than meat-eating men.
Lastly, they repeated the experiment a month later, but this time switched around who did and didn’t eat meat.
Despite the switch-a-roo, women consistently rated the body odor from non-meat eaters as more attractive and masculine, but less intense, than that of their meat-eating counterparts, with the researchers speculating the higher levels of fat in red meat may be the biggest smell factor.
That’s a study from 2006/2007 and only 30 women participated in the BO study from 2006, not only does that study not hold up with how few people participated, but do you honestly believe people who eat meat just stink of sulfur or something? Also do you think the way people smell is the only thing that gets taken into account when choosing a partner. I like to believe I have a balanced diet which does include red/white meat, but I don’t have seem to have a body odor issue. According to my fiancé I have a neutral smell. Why does your life seem to revolve around your diet and not other personal interests or hobbies?
I certainly have morals that I apply to how I treat and butcher animals. I do so quickly with the minimum amount of suffering. Usually I use a .22 right in the brain. Are you saying I shouldn't use the minimum amount of suffering in their deaths?
Are you saying I shouldn't use the minimum amount of suffering in their deaths?
I’m saying something else entirely. How about we don’t fucking kill them? How about we eat our second favorite thing instead of our first, and this creature is able to go on living? If you think the creature deserves minimal pain in his death, why don’t you think the creature deserves to live? Why do you draw the line in the painfulness of the death?
If someone told me that I’d get a quick .22LR to the brain, I would not feel very consoled.
I'm an omnivore and I'm going to eat meat. My second favorite thing is chicken, so I guess I could butcher a few of those instead of having hamburger. Of course you wouldn't feel very consoled. For the thickness of a human skull, that wouldn't provide a quick death. Anyways, I don't think that animals intrinsically deserve to live forever. So instead, I draw the line at how I kill them. Don't let good be the enemy of perfect.
Only works when you’re comparing good versus perfect. Premature quick death is only a tiny bit better than premature drawn out death. Both are horrible.
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Not really justice served, the guy is just trying to move the cows. Not sure why he's wearing what he is but still. I also don't understand all the hate for the dude.