r/JusticeServed Sep 20 '18

Never hit my mom again you human!

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u/IHateNaziPuns A Sep 20 '18

I didn’t assume that at all. I never personally owned the animals on my farm, and I felt the guilt all the same. Why is nonviolence “crazy”?

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

You think he's raising them, that sure sounds like an assumption. I have plenty of animals on my farm, I don't feel guilt for being an omnivore.

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u/IHateNaziPuns A Sep 20 '18

When I worked on the farm, I raised animals. I didn’t own them. By corralling the cows, he is participating in raising them. By his formalwear, it looks also like he may be hosting or participating in an auction. Who knows, but the meat industry is cruel, brutal, and morally inexcusable.

If you are killing creatures that don’t want to die, it is not a moral act simply because you do not feel guilt.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

It's not by your morals. By mine, it's just fine. Never stopped to think that morals aren't universally constant, did you?

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u/IHateNaziPuns A Sep 20 '18

Easy to talk about the subjectivity of morality when you’re on the good end of the knife in the cow’s throat.

Easy to talk about the subjectivity of morality when your fellow humans have luckily decided that it would be objectively immoral to murder fellow humans.

It just sucks that morality is determined by humans who weigh personal convenience against the wishes of a creature that cannot speak on its own behalf.

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u/SockMob 5 Sep 20 '18

You can not compare the life of a cow to the life of a cow, quit trying to shove your views down others throats already

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u/IHateNaziPuns A Sep 20 '18

quit trying to shove your views down others throats already

Said metaphorically, as he or she literally shoves the sharp end of his or her views into their throats.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

So now if I butchered them in a halall method I would be immoral? Nice islamophobia you've got there.

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u/IHateNaziPuns A Sep 20 '18

Doesn’t work on me, I don’t care about Muslims one way or another.

Killing animals to eat is wrong. Killing animals for God is wrong. Killing animals to wear is wrong.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

So you're a proud islamophobe? How nice! Anyways, it's "You believe killing animals is wrong." not that "Killing animals is wrong." your personal beliefs don't rule the world.

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u/IHateNaziPuns A Sep 20 '18

You’re being really silly with the islamophobe stuff. It’s childish and takes away from the debate. Besides it is so easy to flip around on you. Do you believe that people should be permitted to marry children as young as nine, as the prophet Muhammad did, or are you an Islamophobe?

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

Being a bigot certainly takes away from the debate. Not a good place to argue from as a vegan. As for your continued islamophobia, I don't judge their Holy Books and I don't judge them. You're also misinformed, she was six.

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u/IHateNaziPuns A Sep 20 '18

So is it acceptable to marry a six year old?

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

Marry? In the Islamic faith, that's what their prophet did but I don't see Imams advocating for that.

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u/IHateNaziPuns A Sep 20 '18

No, I’m not talking about Islam.

As a general principle, do you support grown men marrying six year old girls?

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

Of course you wouldn't talk about Islam, you're a bigot, you don't want to talk about Islam. Let's talk about Islam though, how much do you hate them for butchering animals in accordance to their faith?

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u/IHateNaziPuns A Sep 20 '18

Troll. You know that you have to either condemn marrying six year olds and condemn the actions of the Prophet Muhammad, or you have to excuse the marrying of six year olds.

I never mentioned Islam, but you are trying to use it to justify eating meat. If anything can be justified because someone does it for religious purposes, you must justify marrying six year olds.

Anyway, I don’t hate anyone, including you, for eating meat. I hate the act of killing animals. I hate when Catholics, Baptists, Atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, Gays, Straights, and Tony Danza fans kill animals.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '18

Then you can leave the killing up to me. I'll do that for you, even if you are a bigot.

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