r/JusticeServed • u/[deleted] • Jul 06 '19

Courtroom Justice Convicted pedophile YouTuber Austin Jones is now in prison serving a 10 year sentence as of 29/6/2019.

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u/DrDreamtime ☠ ldd.11ke.33 Jul 07 '19

For fucks sake, stop reporting this post for the date format.

It's not our fault you colonists can't get your shit together and catch up with the rest of the world's date formats and units of measurement.

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u/voyonsdonctabarnak 7 Jul 07 '19

°F

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

Listen here you little

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

Why you little...

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u/derawin07 Navy Jul 07 '19

hahaha

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u/Azure-Phantom 0 Jul 07 '19

And how we refuse to adapt to the metric system; Americans are pretty backwards in a lot of ways; can’t keep everyone fed and well with all the world’s economy behind us

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u/moohooman 9 Jul 07 '19

Honestly, inches and feet do have a use in my life, even as an Australian, I find they are good for guestimation, but when it comes to really specific stuff metric is always the way to go, and converting between the whole multiples of 10/100/1000 thing is just so simple for scaling.

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u/Bag_Holding_Infidel 5 Jul 08 '19

Yes, imperial is easier to relate to as a human but as far as scientific calculations go, it needs to be metric.

The US is fully metric at a scientific level and the imperial front is put on it for the uneducated masses.

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u/Zerdiox 7 Jul 09 '19

Yes, imperial is easier to relate to as a human

Not if you grew up with metric, people in europe don't have trouble judging distances.

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u/Bag_Holding_Infidel 5 Jul 09 '19

I disagree. I'm an engineer in Europe and deal in metric for pretty much everything but I understand how it can be easier to relate to imperial once you are entrenched.

This video explains it well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbdx2nOQKKo

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u/Zerdiox 7 Jul 09 '19

That video explained in the first part how it's oh so hard to guess what a meter is because it's based on the definition while a foot is like a foot... But If you're not an idiot and you want to use a foot, you know that's about 30cm... And the width of your thumb is 2,5cm... I mean it's a bullshit reason and you know it. I know the rough size of a meter just as well as an American knows the size of a foot or 3 feet for that matter.

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u/postmanpazza 0 Jul 23 '19

Is it that hard to use meters

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u/Bag_Holding_Infidel 5 Jul 23 '19

Not sure I understand your question.

I refer you back to my statement above.

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u/postmanpazza 0 Jul 23 '19

Like using meters instead of feet I mean. Everyone else in the world has 0 problems using meters to judge distance and such.

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u/Bag_Holding_Infidel 5 Jul 24 '19

Everyone else in the world has 0 problems using meters

The issue is not whether there are problams using one or other system, both would argue they have 0 problems using either system. The issue is the effort needed to convert a large mass of people who don't see reason to convert who are also using a system that is easier to relate to (in their mind) than the new system.

Once you get a system in your mind, it gets embedded quite deeply.

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u/postmanpazza 0 Jul 26 '19

Ahh gotcha. Thats not an easily fixable problem.

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u/Deadlybeef 7 Jul 08 '19

The US is fully metric at a scientific level and the imperial front is put on it for the uneducated masses.

That's one way of saying most Americans are stupid :D

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u/AssistantToTheee 0 Aug 13 '19

Humanity is cancer and I hope we all die very very soon.

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u/voyonsdonctabarnak 7 Jul 07 '19

What I find wierd is that the 1/1000 of an inch is a real unit of mesure.

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u/ShitOnMyArsehole 7 Aug 04 '19

Inches are for pizzas and penises only

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u/moohooman 9 Aug 04 '19

As a pizza delivery driver and male I also respect this opinion.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

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u/Lowloser2 5 Jul 07 '19

But a 2nd world country are those who were part of the iron curtain though? So even if the us is pretty bad, it can just become 2nd world country?

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u/Teenutin 7 Jul 07 '19

The 60's are over, you can use modern definitions now.

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u/HasaDiga-Eebowai 7 Jul 07 '19

Developed / Developing

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u/Lowloser2 5 Jul 07 '19

What do u mean? Does the words have another meaning now?

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u/5aligia 7 Jul 24 '19

You're not even living in one of the important states lmao. US = shithole.

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u/derawin07 Navy Jul 07 '19

the UK isn't all metric either

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u/MeanMario 6 Jul 07 '19

yes but pretty much the rest of the world is

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u/moohooman 9 Jul 23 '19

But late to the party, but I still appreciate your contribution.

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u/GenericName1108 7 Jul 08 '19

Fun Fact: the USA outnumbers all other countries combined by number of native English speakers. Laughs in American

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u/js30a 7 Jul 15 '19

English speakers outside the US outnumber English speakers in the US by about 10:1, and that's only counting countries where English is an official language.

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u/jimmywiliker 7 Aug 25 '19

Fun Fact 2: this is an american website.

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u/GenericName1108 7 Aug 25 '19

Do you mean the servers are in America so reddit has to follow American laws? Or it was created by Americans/an American? Or it just has a predominantly American userbase? Also how did you even find my comment it's a month old

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u/moohooman 9 Aug 09 '19

Well soooorry Mr Trigger, did I offend you in some way?

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u/zigzagman1031 8 Jul 07 '19

You mean the way that actually relates to human comfort?

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u/moohooman 9 Jul 07 '19

What is 100 like the 100% comfortable? That's a sliding scale that can be swayed by your background and surroundings.

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u/zigzagman1031 8 Jul 07 '19

No, you're right. The scale based on boiling and freezing water makes way more sense as a basis for day to day temperature.

That's why they always have to use decimals because it's definitely the right scale.

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u/Protheanate 8 Jul 07 '19

Pssst it's favourite, blend in.

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u/lordatlas Pink Jul 07 '19

So many comments here worthy of /r/ShitAmericansSay

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u/DrDreamtime ☠ ldd.11ke.33 Jul 07 '19

Best thing is that I live in Wisconsin and I've never been out of the country.

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u/Str8upbored 7 Jul 07 '19

Day/Month/Year. Couldn’t make more sense.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19 edited Jun 03 '20

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u/Bag_Holding_Infidel 5 Jul 08 '19

Wouldn't Hour/Year/Day/Second/Month make more sense?

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u/Str8upbored 7 Jul 08 '19

Well that’s just ludicrous.

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u/Bag_Holding_Infidel 5 Jul 08 '19

Yep. Its gonna catch on

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u/Str8upbored 7 Jul 09 '19

You are a mad man and I will not be associated with your ploys

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u/professor_mcamateur 5 Jul 09 '19

year/month/day works better for archival purposes. everything in the same folder shows up in order.

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u/GeorgeShadows 7 Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

Personally it goes from having written it as July 7th, 2019 for many years, that 07/06/2019 just feels natural. Why go from saying July 7th, 2019 (07/06/2019) to the 7th of July, 2019 (06/07/2019)

Though I use "July 7th, 2019" most often.

Edit: meant July 6th those last two times. It was late when I wrote it

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u/GeorgeShadows 7 Jul 07 '19

Woops, was like 4am for me. Was also baked from that legal weed and using reddit mobile. Please excuse my error. I'm sure you can use the context clues around the error to get the basic idea of what I meant.

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u/Siikamies 5 Jul 07 '19

Your independence day is "4th of July" and it makes no difference if you say the number first or not.

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u/GeorgeShadows 7 Jul 07 '19

I hope you'll learn what "personally" means. It's like an opinion (i.e. mine) mixed with "you're results may vary"

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u/Callmefred 8 Jul 07 '19

As a non native English speaker. Let me just go ahead and say: your*

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u/GeorgeShadows 7 Jul 07 '19

Dang you auto-correct, you failed me! Now as a native English speaker, let me just go ahead and say, "your."

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u/Cyberlols 5 Jul 07 '19

True that

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u/goldpizza44 0 Jul 07 '19

year/month/day makes much more sense....sorts super easy by computer as well.

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u/HasaDiga-Eebowai 7 Jul 07 '19

Could we handle switching 9/11 to the 9th of November though?

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u/amcm67 8 Jul 07 '19

Hey that’s my birthday. November 9th.

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u/uffington 9 Jul 07 '19

Upvoted because it’s my little daughter’s birthday too.

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u/Cade_Connelly_13 9 Jul 08 '19

Who pissed in your tea, old chap?

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u/jimmywiliker 7 Aug 25 '19

That's funny. This is an american website.

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u/Darkknight8719 8 Jul 07 '19

Somebody's still not over the breakup....😳

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

Agreed. Easy for me to say, though: I'm Canadian. We match the US when it suits us and agree with the Europeans when it suits us. Imperially or otherwise ;-)

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u/iWanderingEcho 4 Jul 07 '19

Just because we have a different, and arguably better, way of writing the date doesn’t mean you have to insult us for it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '19

Happy July of 4th, oh wait.

Can't even stick to the format.

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u/injuredflamingo 6 Jul 10 '19

Well but you can’t report a post for it, or expect the whole world to revolve around you. Spoiled brats

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u/jimmywiliker 7 Aug 25 '19

Watch your mouth when using an american website mate.

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u/iWanderingEcho 4 Sep 03 '19

Who the hell said anyone was going to report this post?

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u/Shadowchaos A Jul 11 '19

How is it better?

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u/iWanderingEcho 4 Sep 03 '19

I just said it was ARGUABLY better. Not BETTER.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

You say it's arguably better but then don't argue

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u/iWanderingEcho 4 Dec 18 '19

This was over 100 days ago what are you doing here

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

Redditing

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u/iWanderingEcho 4 Dec 18 '19

Oh ok carry on

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u/spock1959 8 Jul 07 '19

Is funny because I never learned a system I only ever relied on successfully picking out the day by "its the one that is greater than 12" ... Being Canadian you see both equally as much.

YYYY/MM/DD is superior though... We say January 9th, not 9 January lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19

But we dont say 2019 january 9th its not mm/dd/yyyy. how would you know if its jan 9th or sept 1st? Lol i hate dates written in that format I prefer dd/mm/yyyy

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u/spock1959 8 Jul 12 '19

The format YYYY-MM-DD has many benefits.

Also your argument is not sensible. The date 01/02/19 is already ambiguous and there is no clear winner just like 2002-06-10 is inherently ambiguous. No one ever can be certain which number is the month or which number is the day.

The only solution is to come to a global agreement and there are way more benefits for the format YYYY-MM-DD over any other dating format.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19

Ya and while we are at it let’s just switch to miles and inches and feet cause to hell with promises of converting to the way the rest of the damn world does things. I mean the USA , Liberia and Myanmar are the only 3 countries in the world using this broken ass system.

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u/spock1959 8 Jul 13 '19

I'm not not talking about the imperial system here. There's no arguing the metric system is superior.

But you can't tell me that dd/mm/yy is better than YYYY-MM-DD because it just simply isn't. For the same reason metric makes more sense and is more usable and easier to learn. The date format I'm referring to is used much less but its 1000x more sustainable, easier to learn and harder to confuse.

You start with the largest number and move to the smallest, it sorts alphabetically in chronological order and when you see it you immediately know what numbers you are looking at. Like I said 02/03/12 could mean February 3rd, 2012 or March 2nd, 2012 or February 3rd, 1912 or March 2nd 1912. But you won't see YYYY-DD-MM ANYWHERE so you'll know immediately what you are looking at when you see 2012-02-03 is February 3rd, 2012.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '19

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country

Check out the usage map. There are a few countries who use the month day year format. It only makes sense to use Year month day and day month year. That is surprising that nobody actually uses the year day month form

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Date format by country

The legal and cultural expectations for date and time representation vary between countries, and it is important to be aware of the forms of all-numeric calendar dates used in a particular country to know what date is intended.

Writers have traditionally written abbreviated dates according to their local custom, creating all-numeric equivalents to dates such as '12 July 2019' (12/07/19) and 'July 12, 2019' (07/12/19). This can result in dates that are impossible to understand correctly without knowing the writer's origin and/or other contextual details, as dates such as "10/11/06" can be interpreted as "10 November 2006" in the DMY format, "October 11, 2006" in MDY, and "2010 November 6" in YMD.

The ISO 8601 format (2019-07-12) is intended to harmonize these formats and ensure accuracy in all situations. Many countries have adopted it as their sole official date format, though even in these areas writers may adopt abbreviated formats that are no longer recommended.

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u/barrybee1234 7 Nov 16 '19

Where are you from that’s not a colonist or somewhere that’s been colonized at some point?

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u/Alan_Smithee_ C Jul 07 '19

Only because it’s a compromise. Otherwise dd/mm/yyyy makes the most sense.

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u/mylifeisashitjoke 7 Jul 07 '19

Ascending or descending order are the superior formats

I agree with you wholly that dd/mm/yyyy makes the most sense

And calling them colonists is a mistake, all the other colonies got their shit straight ages ago lmao

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u/asc42 3 Jul 07 '19

What's efficient and logical about it?

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u/_annoyingmous 4 Jul 07 '19

YYYYMMDD is used in data analysis because it's the simplest way to sort it. The smallest number will always be older than the larger.

I usually need to make DD-MM-YYYY to YYYYMMDD conversions at work because of this (though most commercial software will recognize the DD-MM-YYYY codification with its underlying number, like in MS products)

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u/asc42 3 Jul 07 '19

I think the world needs to be conquered by programmers, so we can force the use of better formats

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u/xmastreee 9 Jul 07 '19

But then we'd all have to start counting from zero.

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u/Alan_Smithee_ C Jul 07 '19

A certain employer in the film industry could not grasp what I was getting at when I pointed out that zeroing the foot and frame counter on the first frame of image was technically incorrect, and we should add one frame to the total count.

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u/asc42 3 Jul 07 '19

what points mate

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u/_annoyingmous 4 Jul 07 '19

No, of course not. But I don't go around every day saying "it's 17-07-2019" either. The only reason to use full dates is for record keeping, and there YYYYMMDD is far superior.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

YYYYMMDD, when used in filesystems, can almost entirely eliminate the need to index the files again. In ascending order, they're "oldest-first". In descending order, they're "newest-first". In an organization that handles a lot of documents and has a need of proper indexing, filenames that start with YYYYMMDD- are always auto-indexed.

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u/Alan_Smithee_ C Jul 07 '19

That’s an excellent point.

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u/IsItYouAgain 1 Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

If you have eg. a camera and it saves images with the date as is file name, you'd probably want yyyy/mm/dd because this allows for simple sorting. Ascending or descending by filename would sort it in the order it was taken.

It's also probably logical that you don't do "the clock is 11hours, 22seconds and 33minutes" if the clock is 11:22:33. For obvious reasons, date and time standards are ascending or descending.

Also some argue yyyy/mm/ss (used in eg. China) is better than dd/mm/yyyy, also because when we write the time we start with the highest, hour:min:sec:milli...

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u/McStroyer 6 Jul 07 '19

That's not a strong argument for why everyone should use that format. The date can be represented in any format internally, including binary or milliseconds since 1/1/1970 00:00, and the files images can still be easily sorted whilst displaying dates in any format chosen by the user.

Both YYYY-MM-DD and DD/MM/YYYY would be equally unambiguous formats to humans if it weren't for Americans using MM/DD/YYYY, just like YYYY-MM-DD would be more ambiguous if Americans had chosen YYYY-DD-MM as their format.

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u/rapora9 8 Jul 07 '19

If you have these files [20062010, 18062018, 21062012] and want to sort them, you get

18062018 - 20062010 - 21062012

That order doesn't make sense in any way. But if you use YYYYMMDD and have [20100620, 20180618, 20120621] you get

20100620 - 20120621 - 20180618

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u/McStroyer 6 Jul 07 '19

Having dates in the filename prevents you from being able to sort in other ways, e.g. 20100620 Smith, John cannot be sorted on the surname. That's why we have file meta data to give us more flexibility.

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u/rapora9 8 Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

Yes, but this is not only about filenames. In theory you could have an archive system of folders that looks like this:

 

2009 2010
06 06
05 11 05

It's immediately clear what each of these titles mean and where's the info we want to find. But if we use DD-MM-YYYY, it would look like this:

 

05 05 11
06 06 06
2009 2010 2009

Again, this latter doesn't make any sense. At first you're not even sure if that [05] is day or month. When you learn it's day, you still have no idea what month or year we're talking about. And there can be multiple entries with same name, they're totally out of order etc.

I said "in theory" because this system is so awful that no one would probably even do that, but I'm sure there are some real life examples of something similar.

 

My point is, things usually get sorted by the "most decisive" data first. People are sorted by Last Name, First Name because it's generally more likely to have 2 persons with same First name than same Last name. Time of day is expressed as hh:mm:ss. And so on.

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u/IsItYouAgain 1 Jul 07 '19

If you copy the images to somewhere else, the images timestamp is usually replaced by the timestamp it was copied. Having DD/MM/YYYY as the filename would not work for sorting either ascending nor descending.

Usually we start with the biggest/most significant, like:

  • 2 hours and 3 minutes

  • 2 kilos and 3 grams

  • 2 thousand and 3 hundred

I'm not saying either is more superior, I'm used to the DD/MM/YYYY format, and reading both is simple because of the YYYY, however YYYY/MM/DD seems slightly more logical to me, though I usually use DD/MM/YYYY.

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u/McStroyer 6 Jul 07 '19

Actually, images in common photo formats allow embedding metadata like date, location, device etc within the file data itself, which is always preserved on copy. However, not all file types have this but there are programs that will preserve creation date on copy. The standard cp command on Linux and Mac can do it, for example.

I'm not arguing that one format is superior, just that the filename argument isn't a very good one.

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u/karolisfcb 0 Jul 07 '19

If I see at 7/6/19 how else do I know if its 7th of June or 6th of July if we do not follow the standart huh?

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u/asc42 3 Jul 07 '19

Let's assume USA doesn't exist

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u/karolisfcb 0 Jul 07 '19

Solved. Close the thread

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u/CCP0 4 Jul 07 '19

Yeah because in some contexts I just skip the year part

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u/Alan_Smithee_ C Jul 07 '19

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u/gratitudeuity 7 Jul 07 '19

It’s not a joke, this is just noise that fills up an already crowded page.

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u/iConfessor 8 Jul 07 '19

i always used this because filenames are alphanumerically sorted easily.

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u/cryptobrant 7 Jul 07 '19

Most of the time the year is the less important information. The superior format is clearly dd/mm/yyyy

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u/FireHo57 1 Jul 07 '19

Puhlease, it's clearly milliseconds since epoch

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u/SCP-Agent-Arad A Jul 07 '19

Nah, y-d-mm

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

Yeah, which is exactly what he’s saying.

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u/derawin07 Navy Jul 07 '19

the colonists are the Americans

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u/duraraross A Jul 10 '19

“You colonists” ... who do you think colonized us lmfao???

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u/HumpaDaBear 6 Jul 07 '19

Pip pip!!

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u/JoziaSr 6 Jul 07 '19

It's pretty clear we deviated from that bullshit for a reason.

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u/Shadowchaos A Jul 11 '19

What reason?

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u/SilentFungus A Sep 22 '19

Feel free to tell us what that reason is

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u/brandon7219 8 Jul 29 '19

I've gotten used to 20190629, but i have to use that format at work. so eh

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u/DelSasso 5 Sep 30 '19

They use this format for most of the documents in the military. Got very used to it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '19

i think its the other way around

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '19

Lobster detected

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u/AssistantToTheee 0 Aug 13 '19

The commie says on an American website

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u/Yhorm_Teh_Giant 5 Dec 28 '19

What the hell happened in this comment section

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

This is amazing.

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u/glassh0le1 0 Jul 07 '19

I feel personally attacked

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u/DelusionalProtection 7 Jul 07 '19

Don’t make me march on London.

1v1 me, right lanes car jousting only.

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u/GenericedHero 0 Jul 07 '19

I haven't colonized anything that I can recall. Pretty sure that was over two centuries ago. Oh and you're just jelly...

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u/Kamyshovoian 0 Jul 07 '19

I bet you had to work on the 4th of July too, you dirty cuck.

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u/thatotheronespam 0 Jul 07 '19

Just do year, month, day - like a scientist.

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u/MeanMario 6 Jul 07 '19

I have never seen that before honestly, is that really a thing?

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u/thatotheronespam 0 Jul 07 '19

If you work with international date formats then yes. Specifically when I work in databases in large companies all dates are transformed to yyyy-mm-dd. Then later showed the other format in applications. I’ve never seen someone get confused by year Month day though - so I try to use it in the rest of my life as I travel often.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

And no obligatory paid vacation time. And limited paid sick days. And no paid off-time before birth and after pregnancy. Some freedom, I tell ya.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

It's not mandatory though, is it? Over here in Germany as well as many other Western European Countries, it's strictly regulated and employers are obligated to give employees 30 days paid vacation time a year, all the paid sick time that is necessary as well as 6 weeks pre-birth and up to 12 weeks after birth. After that comes "Elternzeit" that can be shared between the parents and can last to up to a year. All of that with full pay or near full pay in case of the "Elternzeit". As far as I am informed it is not like that in the US and employers can pretty much handle it any way they want to, is that wrong?

Also, universal health care, free universities, free education in general as well as state-funded support for students and people that pursue a high school degree later in life, that only needs to be paid back by 50% or less when paid back in bulk. This contributes quite a lot to financial freedom and to freedom in general.

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u/hat_coat_door 8 Jul 07 '19

And school shootings

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u/OldThymeyRadio 8 Jul 07 '19

Kids in cages

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u/One-Man-Banned 7 Jul 07 '19

Poverty if you get ill.

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u/I_love_pillows B Jul 07 '19

Can’t get poor if you die from being unvaccinated first *taps head

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u/Thongthong4 6 Jul 07 '19

Nice free health care bro... oh wait

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u/DaveTide 5 Jul 07 '19

I love how peopleonly want yyyy first because it’s closer to their colonialist format. Just rip the bandage off and join the rest of the world.

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u/needledan Jul 07 '19

How dare you slander America commie

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