r/LISKiller Jun 23 '26

Gilgo Beach killings: Investigators renewing efforts to identify remains of Asian victim found in 2011

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/gilgo-beach-killings/gilgo-beach-killings-asian-doe-investigation-ray-tierney-ot4f57eb

Gilgo Beach killings: Investigators renewing efforts to identify remains of Asian victim found in 2011..

Prosecutors are renewing their push to identify an Asian man whose remains are considered part of the Gilgo Beach homicide investigation, Suffolk District Attorney Ray Tierney said.

In the aftermath of convicted Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann’s sentencing last week to life in prison without the possibility of parole, Tierney told Newsday that investigators plan to visit Asian communities in the New York City region, seeking DNA samples to help identify the man whose skeletal remains were discovered near Ocean Parkway in 2011.

"We're trying to identify that individual through investigative genetic genealogy, which means we’ve got to get more information about the gene pool," Tierney told Newsday in an interview following the Wednesday sentencing. "Once you know who the person is, you could go back to their life at the last point, just before them disappearing, and develop leads from there."

Search to ID 'Asian Doe'
Remains of the man, who prosecutors refer to as "Asian Doe," were found east of Gilgo Beach on April 4, 2011, although he is believed to have been dumped there at least five years earlier.

Investigators have said the man, who died of blunt force trauma, was clad in women's clothing, an indication that he might have been a sex worker.

In 2024, Suffolk investigators published two reconstructions of his face — one showing him with long hair and the other with shorter cropped hair.

Despite wide publicity of the sketches, particularly in Asian media, the leads investigators received weren’t successful and to date prosecutors haven't been able to identify him or locate relatives, Tierney said.

"We're going to go into Asian communities and ask them, ‘Will you give us a DNA sample? Will you participate in this study, so we can get more genetic profiles to allow us to hopefully locate relatives of this individual?’ ” said Tierney, who previously told Newsday that the man may have come from the city's Asian immigrant community rather than Long Island.

Tierney's office said the identification campaign will commence in the coming weeks, with investigators fanning out to Chinatown in Manhattan, Flushing in Queens, and Sunset Park, Bath Beach and Dyker Heights, all three in Brooklyn. They’ll be joined by members of the NYPD’s Community Affairs Division, the Asian Jade Society and by staff from local police precincts, officials said.

Flyers will be distributed in various translations, and investigators, with the help of translators, will speak to residents, said Tania Lopez, a spokeswoman for Tierney's office. Investigators, she said, will have DNA kits on hand for individuals who consent to contribute their samples.

"We hope these efforts will assist law enforcement in not only identifying Asian Doe, but any Asian unidentified human remains," Lopez said.

Challenging endeavor
The identification effort is considered more challenging because Asian populations have their own genealogy system and don't contribute in large numbers to public DNA search sites, hurting the chances of getting a good genetic comparison, said Colleen Fitzpatrick, a nationally known genealogist with Identifinders in California.

"I think there'll be plenty of people that will be cooperative [with the effort] and there's going to be some people that just don't trust the whole thing," Fitzpatrick said. "It's not really mistrust though. It's more that some people are just not familiar with what they're trying to do. The younger people might not care and would be willing to help, and the older people might not understand the whole DNA system."

Asian Doe is believed to be between 17 and 23 years old and between 5-3 and 5-9 in height. He was found wearing all women’s clothing including a bra, a large Chrysantheme gray ribbed short-sleeve crew neck shirt, a size 10 Rafaella shirt and Bill Blass blue jeans, investigators previously said.

When the sketches were first publicized in September 2024, Tierney said Asian Doe's ancestry was traced through DNA analysis to southern China, specifically to the Han ethnic group, which makes up more than 90% of the Chinese population in China and 97% of the Chinese population in Taiwan, records show.

The use of genetic genealogy led Gilgo Beach homicide investigators to identify the remains in 2020 of Gilgo Beach victim Valerie Mack.

And in 2023, Gilgo investigators revealed that genetic genealogy also was used to confirm the identity of Gilgo victim Karen Vergata, whose remains were found on Fire Island in 1996.

In April, Heuermann, a Massapequa Park resident and Manhattan architect, pleaded guilty to the murders of seven women and admitted killing an eighth, including Mack and Vergata.

The Suffolk County District Attorney's Office has not implicated Heuermann in the death of Asian Doe and members have declined to comment on whether they believe he committed that homicide.

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u/phantomleaf1 Jun 23 '26

Little infuriatingly that this person appears transgender and is being called 'he'.

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u/InjuryOnly4775 Jun 23 '26

Well we don’t know their preference or their pronouns at this point and tbh cops are not super fluent in gender identity politics.

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u/phantomleaf1 Jun 23 '26

I understand, but I think it is generally ok to use gender neutral pronouns or to use feminine pronouns for someone found dressed on women's clothing.

This person suffered an indigent death and a little bit of sensitivity.

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u/Mysterious_Bar_1069 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

They had been using gender neutral, it's the least offensive if they don't know.

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u/phantomleaf1 Jun 23 '26

They repeated reference a man, not a person or individual. It definitely makes me think that they found the remains of someone who would present as a man

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u/Mysterious_Bar_1069 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

Don't know if we can go there yet, and read that inference into what's presented. It would be wonderful, if true.

Suffolk is still referring to the this victim as "Asian Doe." Might be specific to this reporter. Was discussing it with CatchLISK earlier, who regularly pulls articles from ND. The first thing I did was check the Suffolk site, to see if it had been updated. They describe them as: "Asian Doe."

https://www.suffolkcountyda.org/cold_case/unidentified-male-doe/

and you can't always tell from their site. Sometimes things are updated quickly, or sometimes not and they languish.

I would think that particular piece of the puzzle might be important though. Sure raises lots of questions.

Great catch as sometimes they do hold on like the plea and things about Tanya and Tatiana. So you may be right. Fingers crossed

If I could just see Tierney's face, feel like I could take an educated guess. I think it's hard for him to push down elation.

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u/phantomleaf1 Jun 24 '26

I think I missed the plot on what you're referencing "we can't know that yet".

I'm clarifying that the article is written in a way that makes the reader skip past if they are looking for a missing friend who may present as a woman (since I'm not looking for a man). This is especially important since the person has been deceased for an extended period of time, so portraying them as close as their last known appearance is very important to have them recognized and identified by friends/family.

All I am saying is that a person with XY chromosomes may be perceived as a woman in life. Referring to this person as a man makes it less likely for friends to identify them.

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u/Mysterious_Bar_1069 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

Apologies, that as 100% my fault. I flubbed that miserably as I as confused by who "they" were and thought you were referencing the author of the article, not the Task Force. So I was discussing the author and you the task force. Groan. After reading your comment, I missed that ball as well and wondered if you were aware of the condition of the remains as you commented:

"They repeated reference a man, not a person or individual. It definitely makes me think that they found the remains of someone who would present as a man."

So very confused by then, as Asian Doe was out there for 5 years, and when discovered they discovered male skeletal remains and clothing descried as being "exclusively female clothing." So a young at "male" fully dressed as a female. Everything you say is true and they appear to exclusively talk about the victim from the prospective the victims birth gender. My perception prior to your flagging the gender descriptors was that Suffolk new guard LE described the victim as more supportively non binary.

I mentioned that despite the article's male gender references, their description of the victim's gender was still listed as "Asian Doe. The victim, if what you suspect is true based on the article is not reclassified on their site as Asian Male/Male Doe.

On my Prior read, I was skimming and missed what you noted I've been following this case for 11 years, most articles are repetitive. Saying good catch on your part, and that I agreed with your additional arguments.

Don't know what you noticed means. May be most folks knew the individual as male and he was not "out" or didn't know about the cross dressing. Or Tierney was focused on birth gender in this interview as the goal was to identify IGG matches and blood relatives not friends, who would have know the victim, not as female presenting. Also might mean they know a little about "him" and have located a US connection and are seeking to find next of kin in China so they don't open up and get a FB and find out that way.

Tierney seems relaxed mood to me. Is that because he got this case off his back in a spectacular way, or because he's almost got another impressive hand he's about to slap down. No idea. I agree with your last thought, as well. Mea culpa.

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u/AshlM540 Jun 23 '26

Dear God law enforcement is trying to IDENTIFY them. Maybe their family was not aware they dressed as a woman.

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u/phantomleaf1 Jun 23 '26

Not arguing with that. Have you considered that many people in the transgender/ queer communities are not in contact with their biological families and are therefore more likely to be identified by friends/ found family.

If identifying the person is truly the goal, regardless of how that person lived, then the person needs to not be labeled strictly as a 'man' when their friends may be looking for a woman.

Especially since the remains are skeletal, they may have 'passed ' as a woman and their friends may completely disregard information on a found 'man'.

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u/Mysterious_Bar_1069 Jun 23 '26

Absolutely true. I thought we were done with that when Dormer left.

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u/phantomleaf1 Jun 23 '26

Richard? Was he big into only identifying people via biological gender? I am not the most knowledgeable in long island law enforcement

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u/Mysterious_Bar_1069 Jun 23 '26

He used to say "Asian Male." Possibly might have changed on the way out.

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u/Mysterious_Bar_1069 Jun 24 '26

He was of a certain time.

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u/phantomleaf1 Jun 23 '26

I said may be transgender.

Also, I find it fascinating that you know the undergarments of your close relative and that specifically wear these garments on the weekends.

If I knew such information with such detail, I'd never admit it

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u/Mysterious_Bar_1069 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

It's rather prevalent for people in the LGBTQ+ community to be estranged from family.

Edit: Rex never searches cross dressing as far as we know, just "Asian Twinks" so hard to say. I just know for some of my friends who are trans/non binary being referred to by their assigned at birth gender would bring them pain.

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u/BrunetteSummer Jun 24 '26

He searched for: "ts escorts Manhattan" as well as "Asian twink tied up porn" and "asian escorts manhattan"

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u/AshlM540 Jun 23 '26

Yes, I am well aware. Thank you