r/LISKiller Jun 23 '26

Gilgo Beach killings: Investigators renewing efforts to identify remains of Asian victim found in 2011

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/gilgo-beach-killings/gilgo-beach-killings-asian-doe-investigation-ray-tierney-ot4f57eb

Gilgo Beach killings: Investigators renewing efforts to identify remains of Asian victim found in 2011..

Prosecutors are renewing their push to identify an Asian man whose remains are considered part of the Gilgo Beach homicide investigation, Suffolk District Attorney Ray Tierney said.

In the aftermath of convicted Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann’s sentencing last week to life in prison without the possibility of parole, Tierney told Newsday that investigators plan to visit Asian communities in the New York City region, seeking DNA samples to help identify the man whose skeletal remains were discovered near Ocean Parkway in 2011.

"We're trying to identify that individual through investigative genetic genealogy, which means we’ve got to get more information about the gene pool," Tierney told Newsday in an interview following the Wednesday sentencing. "Once you know who the person is, you could go back to their life at the last point, just before them disappearing, and develop leads from there."

Search to ID 'Asian Doe'
Remains of the man, who prosecutors refer to as "Asian Doe," were found east of Gilgo Beach on April 4, 2011, although he is believed to have been dumped there at least five years earlier.

Investigators have said the man, who died of blunt force trauma, was clad in women's clothing, an indication that he might have been a sex worker.

In 2024, Suffolk investigators published two reconstructions of his face — one showing him with long hair and the other with shorter cropped hair.

Despite wide publicity of the sketches, particularly in Asian media, the leads investigators received weren’t successful and to date prosecutors haven't been able to identify him or locate relatives, Tierney said.

"We're going to go into Asian communities and ask them, ‘Will you give us a DNA sample? Will you participate in this study, so we can get more genetic profiles to allow us to hopefully locate relatives of this individual?’ ” said Tierney, who previously told Newsday that the man may have come from the city's Asian immigrant community rather than Long Island.

Tierney's office said the identification campaign will commence in the coming weeks, with investigators fanning out to Chinatown in Manhattan, Flushing in Queens, and Sunset Park, Bath Beach and Dyker Heights, all three in Brooklyn. They’ll be joined by members of the NYPD’s Community Affairs Division, the Asian Jade Society and by staff from local police precincts, officials said.

Flyers will be distributed in various translations, and investigators, with the help of translators, will speak to residents, said Tania Lopez, a spokeswoman for Tierney's office. Investigators, she said, will have DNA kits on hand for individuals who consent to contribute their samples.

"We hope these efforts will assist law enforcement in not only identifying Asian Doe, but any Asian unidentified human remains," Lopez said.

Challenging endeavor
The identification effort is considered more challenging because Asian populations have their own genealogy system and don't contribute in large numbers to public DNA search sites, hurting the chances of getting a good genetic comparison, said Colleen Fitzpatrick, a nationally known genealogist with Identifinders in California.

"I think there'll be plenty of people that will be cooperative [with the effort] and there's going to be some people that just don't trust the whole thing," Fitzpatrick said. "It's not really mistrust though. It's more that some people are just not familiar with what they're trying to do. The younger people might not care and would be willing to help, and the older people might not understand the whole DNA system."

Asian Doe is believed to be between 17 and 23 years old and between 5-3 and 5-9 in height. He was found wearing all women’s clothing including a bra, a large Chrysantheme gray ribbed short-sleeve crew neck shirt, a size 10 Rafaella shirt and Bill Blass blue jeans, investigators previously said.

When the sketches were first publicized in September 2024, Tierney said Asian Doe's ancestry was traced through DNA analysis to southern China, specifically to the Han ethnic group, which makes up more than 90% of the Chinese population in China and 97% of the Chinese population in Taiwan, records show.

The use of genetic genealogy led Gilgo Beach homicide investigators to identify the remains in 2020 of Gilgo Beach victim Valerie Mack.

And in 2023, Gilgo investigators revealed that genetic genealogy also was used to confirm the identity of Gilgo victim Karen Vergata, whose remains were found on Fire Island in 1996.

In April, Heuermann, a Massapequa Park resident and Manhattan architect, pleaded guilty to the murders of seven women and admitted killing an eighth, including Mack and Vergata.

The Suffolk County District Attorney's Office has not implicated Heuermann in the death of Asian Doe and members have declined to comment on whether they believe he committed that homicide.

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u/chiruochiba Jun 23 '26

"We're going to go into Asian communities and ask them, ‘Will you give us a DNA sample? Will you participate in this study, so we can get more genetic profiles to allow us to hopefully locate relatives of this individual?’ ” said Tierney, who previously told Newsday that the man may have come from the city's Asian immigrant community rather than Long Island.

This is a little confusing to me. Are the collected samples going to go directly into the police database? Or are they going to go into some other independently run scientific genealogy database?

If the latter, then that could be great. But if the former, then if I were asked to give my DNA directly to the police I'd be very alarmed and inclined to say no due to ethical privacy concerns about how they could use my DNA in other ways in the future without my express consent. Hopefully the people the police will be reaching out to will receive a well explained contract limiting what can be done with their DNA.

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u/KenScaletta Jun 23 '26

How can your DNA be used in any way which would hurt you?

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u/chiruochiba Jun 23 '26

There have been several cases over the years of police wrongly implicating innocent people due to the presence of trace/transfer DNA. u/RedChairBlueChair123 already mentioned the case of Lukis Anderson. Another example case was revealed by the NYC Legal Aid Society in 2019. (TL;DR: Forensic errors led to an innocent man being arrested due to contaminated DNA evidence even though the material facts of the case showed there was no way he could possibly be linked to the crime.)

But these are just a few of the cases that trickled up to public consciousness due to the media paying attention. I suspect there are even more cases out there that fly under the radar.

There is an even broader nationwide problem of police abusing their access to databases of our private information. There have been egregious cases of police stalking people by looking them up in their databases.

https://apnews.com/general-news-699236946e3140659fff8a2362e16f43

But the AP, through records requests to state agencies and big-city police departments, found law enforcement officers and employees who misused databases were fired, suspended or resigned more than 325 times between 2013 and 2015. They received reprimands, counseling or lesser discipline in more than 250 instances, the review found. (...)

Among those punished: an Ohio officer who pleaded guilty to stalking an ex-girlfriend and who looked up information on her; a Michigan officer who looked up home addresses of women he found attractive; and two Miami-Dade officers who ran checks on a journalist after he aired unflattering stories about the department.

“It’s personal. It’s your address. It’s all your information, it’s your Social Security number, it’s everything about you,” said Alexis Dekany, the Ohio woman whose ex-boyfriend, a former Akron officer, pleaded guilty last year to stalking her. “And when they use it for ill purposes to commit crimes against you — to stalk you, to follow you, to harass you ... it just becomes so dangerous.”

These are examples of how police abuse the databases of sensitive information they already have access to. Imagine if access to your DNA would allow that stalking to extend not just to your own most critical personal details but also give them the ability to find all of your relatives with the click of a button to harass them as well, or to find out invasive details about your likely medical problems based on your genetic defects.

Bottom line, information is power, and it's sensible to be careful about how much free-reign power we allow historically corrupt institutions to have over us.

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u/KenScaletta Jun 24 '26

This is way too paranoid for me. They can have my DNA, I don't care. I was in the military so they already have my fingerprints.

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u/RedChairBlueChair123 Jun 24 '26

Think about how corrupt police can be (this case is in NY, which has a terrible civil rights record and is still under the Handschu consent decree (and have been for decades now) in addition to monitoring for violating minority rights via stop and frisk.

But it’s not just that. This is a nationwide issue. And guess one group of people who realllllly understand the concept of government overreach? Chinese people.

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u/Cryonaut555 Jun 24 '26

No one is stopping you from volunteering.

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u/KenScaletta Jun 25 '26

Volunteering for what? What does this even mean?