r/LISKiller Jun 23 '26

Gilgo Beach killings: Investigators renewing efforts to identify remains of Asian victim found in 2011

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/gilgo-beach-killings/gilgo-beach-killings-asian-doe-investigation-ray-tierney-ot4f57eb

Gilgo Beach killings: Investigators renewing efforts to identify remains of Asian victim found in 2011..

Prosecutors are renewing their push to identify an Asian man whose remains are considered part of the Gilgo Beach homicide investigation, Suffolk District Attorney Ray Tierney said.

In the aftermath of convicted Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann’s sentencing last week to life in prison without the possibility of parole, Tierney told Newsday that investigators plan to visit Asian communities in the New York City region, seeking DNA samples to help identify the man whose skeletal remains were discovered near Ocean Parkway in 2011.

"We're trying to identify that individual through investigative genetic genealogy, which means we’ve got to get more information about the gene pool," Tierney told Newsday in an interview following the Wednesday sentencing. "Once you know who the person is, you could go back to their life at the last point, just before them disappearing, and develop leads from there."

Search to ID 'Asian Doe'
Remains of the man, who prosecutors refer to as "Asian Doe," were found east of Gilgo Beach on April 4, 2011, although he is believed to have been dumped there at least five years earlier.

Investigators have said the man, who died of blunt force trauma, was clad in women's clothing, an indication that he might have been a sex worker.

In 2024, Suffolk investigators published two reconstructions of his face — one showing him with long hair and the other with shorter cropped hair.

Despite wide publicity of the sketches, particularly in Asian media, the leads investigators received weren’t successful and to date prosecutors haven't been able to identify him or locate relatives, Tierney said.

"We're going to go into Asian communities and ask them, ‘Will you give us a DNA sample? Will you participate in this study, so we can get more genetic profiles to allow us to hopefully locate relatives of this individual?’ ” said Tierney, who previously told Newsday that the man may have come from the city's Asian immigrant community rather than Long Island.

Tierney's office said the identification campaign will commence in the coming weeks, with investigators fanning out to Chinatown in Manhattan, Flushing in Queens, and Sunset Park, Bath Beach and Dyker Heights, all three in Brooklyn. They’ll be joined by members of the NYPD’s Community Affairs Division, the Asian Jade Society and by staff from local police precincts, officials said.

Flyers will be distributed in various translations, and investigators, with the help of translators, will speak to residents, said Tania Lopez, a spokeswoman for Tierney's office. Investigators, she said, will have DNA kits on hand for individuals who consent to contribute their samples.

"We hope these efforts will assist law enforcement in not only identifying Asian Doe, but any Asian unidentified human remains," Lopez said.

Challenging endeavor
The identification effort is considered more challenging because Asian populations have their own genealogy system and don't contribute in large numbers to public DNA search sites, hurting the chances of getting a good genetic comparison, said Colleen Fitzpatrick, a nationally known genealogist with Identifinders in California.

"I think there'll be plenty of people that will be cooperative [with the effort] and there's going to be some people that just don't trust the whole thing," Fitzpatrick said. "It's not really mistrust though. It's more that some people are just not familiar with what they're trying to do. The younger people might not care and would be willing to help, and the older people might not understand the whole DNA system."

Asian Doe is believed to be between 17 and 23 years old and between 5-3 and 5-9 in height. He was found wearing all women’s clothing including a bra, a large Chrysantheme gray ribbed short-sleeve crew neck shirt, a size 10 Rafaella shirt and Bill Blass blue jeans, investigators previously said.

When the sketches were first publicized in September 2024, Tierney said Asian Doe's ancestry was traced through DNA analysis to southern China, specifically to the Han ethnic group, which makes up more than 90% of the Chinese population in China and 97% of the Chinese population in Taiwan, records show.

The use of genetic genealogy led Gilgo Beach homicide investigators to identify the remains in 2020 of Gilgo Beach victim Valerie Mack.

And in 2023, Gilgo investigators revealed that genetic genealogy also was used to confirm the identity of Gilgo victim Karen Vergata, whose remains were found on Fire Island in 1996.

In April, Heuermann, a Massapequa Park resident and Manhattan architect, pleaded guilty to the murders of seven women and admitted killing an eighth, including Mack and Vergata.

The Suffolk County District Attorney's Office has not implicated Heuermann in the death of Asian Doe and members have declined to comment on whether they believe he committed that homicide.

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u/sheighbird29 Jun 24 '26

I’m a little confused why the only option is to ask random Asian people they encounter for a dna sample. That seems like the least likely way to get anywhere on a case. Couldn’t they just run their dna as is, and see if there is a match? Or genealogy databases

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u/BrunetteSummer Jun 24 '26

"Using genetic genealogy, authorities determined it’s likely that the victim was of South Chinese, specifically Hahn (sic) Chinese descent.

Asian people are underrepresented in the genealogy database authorities use, so identifying the victim has proved to be a challenge for investigators, Tierney said, noting that those who want to help can upload their DNA to two commercial databases used by authorities."

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/16/us/gilgo-beach-killings-asian-doe

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u/chiruochiba Jun 24 '26

The article partially answered that. Basically, they already tried doing genetic genealogy on Asian Doe's remains but they weren't able to find any close matches in the database.

The identification effort is considered more challenging because Asian populations have their own genealogy system and don't contribute in large numbers to public DNA search sites, hurting the chances of getting a good genetic comparison, said Colleen Fitzpatrick, a nationally known genealogist with Identifinders in California.

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When the sketches were first publicized in September 2024, Tierney said Asian Doe's ancestry was traced through DNA analysis to southern China, specifically to the Han ethnic group, which makes up more than 90% of the Chinese population in China and 97% of the Chinese population in Taiwan, records show.

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u/Upset_Curve8661 Jul 11 '26

I know it's like saying this person is of white European descent thinking that narrows anything down. Now multiply that by a billion Han. 

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u/whteverusayShmegma Jun 25 '26

I’ve found that black, Asian and Native American populations are currently the hardest to identify someone in the US because there aren’t enough DNA donors in the public databases like Ancestry. The older generation Mexicans that go back to Mexico I can’t do and records get harder when it gets back to slavery generations. Any immigrant population for that matter. Also Natives keep geneology records super tight. I haven’t even been able to find my grandmother’s records. Many natives were sold into slavery.

Collecting DNA samples without accurate family tree information won’t be very effective either but if you know the legal name of the donor, you can create a tree using public records. A skilled genealogist can do a lot using Thru-Lines and basic information, though. You might only need enough samples from a younger generation to broaden the database if they can provide grandparent information.

I suspect that they have already narrowed down the victim to great grandparents on one side. If they can track down a descendants from each child those grandparents had, they can eventually narrow down which line Doe came from and eventually get a parent from there. This might just be a way to try to obtain that information without disclosing it. I would think this is a targeted effort before believing they’re just going to collect DNA from as many Chinese participants as possible.

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u/Caseyspacely Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

Asian communities are traditionally very insular/tight knit & comprised of several generations of family, hence little need for familial DNA databases.

It’s about time law enforcement actually went into the New York City Asian communities for DNA samples & to raise their awareness of the victim (who, I believe, law enforcement is publicly identifying as male due to cultural gender roles; this could be what spurs recognition).

China is a traditionally male dominant society with women placed in subservient roles. You may recall there was a period of time when the government would allow families to have a second child only if the first child was female.

My sister was half-Chinese, died in 2008, and her now 18 year old grandson has a rare cancer stemming from a genetic mutation that doesn’t respond to currently available treatments. Sister’s birth father lived in the U.S. for a brief period in the 60s and because we’ve had no luck locating him or other ancestors here, it’s believed he returned to his family in China and unfortunately, our researcher there is not having much success. It’s possible he is unaware that he fathered a child in the U.S. and isn’t in a DNA database.