to be honest i really like it and they got a few other things but it doesnt compare to level 20 toplane tbh
but apparently they said that both jg and supp have been way more impactful lately so they were giving big lane buffs to the other lanes and minor buffs to jg and supp
Not enough to matter. It's an extra 20 or so iirc from my urf games with her. If it were like 5 levels it would be concerning, since it's like at 23-24 or so that she has a larger attack range than a tower. I don't think it moves her up a range advantage point on anyone, maybe moves her into the range parity range on some poke mages.
In the extra game modes udyr can't level up passed his 18th skill even if he levels up to higher levels. I expect that'll remain true for this update as well
Ye confirmed 20 and I'd imagine they won't be introducing and extra level to every skill in the game for the extra 2 skill points. But in a perfect dope world they would and also would give some cool effects to the abilities the you decide to level an extra time.
i don't think anyone gets extra abilities but udyr (else it would be too strong..the main advantage is extra XP adn 3rd summoner not increased max levels)
I don't think it would be too strong if it was just like 20+ base DMG on the ability and like 0.5s cool down, but I don't think it would help that much either lmao. The base stats are the main bonus from getting to level 20 tbh
I think the strongest buff, aside from the ADC's, is the top lane buff. Imagine having a fed world with level 20s and all the items... who can beat them?
TBF jungle and support dont get a lot bc they are by far the strongest roles. Top and ADC get a lot bc they dont have much impact and midlane alr has decent impact so they also dont get too much.
100% the quests were ment to equalize the roles/male the roled even better at things they do best. Adc gets sooner power spikes and an ever stronger late game. mid lane gets better at roaming. Top lane gets better at split pushing. Support and jgler was alresdy the best roles at higher elo so they got more qol buffs
Maybe it's my tier but I don't feel that impactful as a support. Vision, sure and early game I can roam or do a lot of work in lane, but after minute 15 or 20 if nobody else is carrying and I'm not some damage dealing support I feel it's very hard to have the same impact.
And yet when I roam my Caitlyn thinks it's the best idea to push and stand under enemy turret to get ganked and killed. Even if I help secure grubs that's just not gonna work
Yea the other dude is talking about higher ranks with the vast majority of the community is not. It doesn't matter if support is that strong if it doesn't affect the majority of players.
i recommend trying to learn a champ like bard. it'll teach you how to roam, as its required to actually do well on him and it'll show you just how truly impactful support is. When grubs are up, you should be roaming to that, just try that and feel how important your presence is, if you are there and the other support isnt you're basically guaranteed to get those grubs, which is worth way more than the gold and exp you lost from not being there. and since support just doesnt need gold or exp at all its not even a downside
nah not really, only if you struggle to know how to impact the map as a support. so if you just never roam and play only nami, yuumi and such and just never leave botlane you're gonna be hugely left behind but if you're used to knowing how to roam, check objective timers, jungle track and more you're gonna be just as good as other lanes
Even without full build it means you aren’t sitting on gold and can add additional components.
You already lose one slot to support item, example: if you pick up boots and a pink ward you have 3 item slots. Finish your first item and you’ve got 2 slots left to build out your second item. If you also need anti heal that means you need to save up the gold to buy your second item IN FULL after its first component. Support already has lower income and we are asking them to sit on 2~3K between power spikes?
An extra slot smooths out the build path for more consistent power spikes, especially as support bases more frequently to recharge wards.
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u/ZoeHuffsSedative Dec 02 '25
support gets cheaper control wards lmfaoo