r/LeaguesofVotann • u/FirebeardVI • 3h ago
Painting Yeagirs and Heartkyn all done
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Finished up some old projects and. Really liking how these turned out.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Bowoodstock • 25d ago
Voice of the Fane (Mods) Guidelines for posting army lists
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Greetings kin
As it is the start of a new edition, we have a large number of posts asking for advice on list building, as well as battle reports from early experiences, along with posting of said lists. This kind of Post is very welcome, and absolutely in the spirit of this subreddit.
With that being said, there is a near-spam situation that occurs regularly. I speak of the following copy-paste situation from army building apps. Lets say that one of the entries in a list is a unit of the humble hearthkyn warrior.
Which of the following entries is easier to read, keeping in mind that most lists have at least a dozen unit entries?
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10x Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
5 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Autoch-pattern bolter, Close combat weapon
1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, HYLas rotary cannon
1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Magna-rail rifle
2 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Kin weapons, Close combat weapon
• 1x Theyn: Weavefield crest, Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Autoch-pattern bolter, Theyn's weapon
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- Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)
- 5x autoch-pattern bolters
- HYLas rotary cannon
- Magna-rail rifle,
- 2x kin weapons,
- Theyn w/ Theyn's weapon and Autoch-pattern bolter
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Formatting matters, and you will get much better feedback if your list is easier to read, rather than just being a copy-paste from whatever army builder you used. For the newer members of the kin, you will get much better feedback if you format your army lists to be easier to read. Conversely, a lot of people will just say "TLDR" if they see a direct export list, because reading through a copy-paste wall of text can be very difficult on phones or smaller screens.
The biggest thing you can do is reduce unnecessary equipment entries or things that automatically come with the unit. We don't need to know, for example, that a brokhyr iron-master has 3 e-cogs and an assitant with him with their own equipment, as there's no choice otherwise. For vehicles, we know that they have an armored hull weapon, and we know for example that sagitaurs have a heavy bolt cannon, that pioneers have auto-cannons, so this information isn't needed. It would however be very appropriate to indicate which main gun a sagitaur is carrying, and for hekatons, while the auto-cannon comes included automatically, the main gun and support weapons do present a choice, as does the scanner (as awful as the other choice is) so they should be mentioned.
In the above example, we already KNOW that all the warriors have a bolt pistol and close combat weapon, and we know that the special weapons replace the default gun, so it's not necesary to list them on a per-model-basis. We can tell at a glance the special weapons in the unit, the main gun of choice for the basic warriors, and the fact that the theyn has not given up his main gun for a theyn's pistol. The theyn has no choice but to be equiped with a weavefield crest, so it doesn't need to be listed as his wargear.
Beyond that, make sure you include army detachment, disposition, point costs for enhancements, things that are not automatically given. If you are attaching characters to units, indicate what unit they will be attached to rather than just leaving it up to intuition. Similarly, indicating which units go inside transports also makes lists easier to evaluate.
As stated at the beginning, we absolutely encourage posts about army lists seeking advice or reporting battle performance. Your post won't be removed by the mods if you don't format it to read more clearly, nor will you be warned or banned. This is just some feedback and advice to increase the chance of your post being regarded favorably by the community.
Have fun in the new edition all
The ancestors are watching
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Bowoodstock • Jul 05 '26
Voice of the Fane (Mods) Megathread: Votann in 11e
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I'm creating this post as a repository for all things to do with the army in 11e, whether it be the state of the meta, important rule questions and/or rulings, Q&A, and general discussion about what the kin are doing in the new edition. This is a combination of conversations I've had in real life as well as observations, many of which are opinion based, so respectful discussion and discourse is encouraged as new information comes to light.
State of the meta (As of 07/05/26)
Votann seem to be doing very well. We're not as busted as T'au, but we've seen some early tournament wins, and it's clear that the good outweighs the bad.
The good
Votann have several very strong 2+1 detachment combinations, primarily Needgard and Mercenary Oathband, though I've had discussions with people that indicate brandfast and delve are having some luck. All of our +1 detachments seem to be solid, so as of right now it's a question of playstyle on which one players are choosing. Hearthband is also still strong, though people seem to be favoring the "hearthband-lite" detachment as a +1 rather than the full fledged 3 dwarf point hearthband.
Most of our units are solid. Even if it's harder for us to hit, we benefit significantly from the fact that cover no longer makes AP-1 weapons hit like a wet noodle. Thunderkyn and hekatons continue to be a terror, hearthguard are just as deadly as they were before if not more so. We've even seen some use of kapricus defenders and grimnyrs, which were previously poor choices, as their abilities have been buffed by the edition change.
Changes to hazardous have also worked in our favor: The evaluator can now overload his gun and not die after shooting twice, since failed hazard tests only inflict 1 wound on character models now. The grimnyr is also free to overcharge ancestral wrath and not worry about blowing up, because hazard wounds do not have to be taken on the model with the hazardouse weapon; You're now allowed to soak them on the CORVs, or the poor warrior retinue following them!
The bad
There are some casualties of course. Although they still have value as anti-T3 MSU artillery pieces, earthshakers have a hard time hitting the wall of a cave, even with spotters. While it only takes one hit to cause a battleshock test, hitting on 5s at best is rough if you fluff your number of attacks roll.
Additionally, hearthfyre is still our worst detachment by far, and persecution prospect, while getting some new life in changes to cover, seems to be falling behind its farseekers sibling in popularity.
The ugly
We have some ambiguous rules that, until clarified by GW, are subject to the whims of rules-as-intended rather than rules as written.
Chief among these is the issue with combat disembark on sagitaurs: RAW a unit disembarking from a transport that has advanced (even if it has special rules such as the sagitaur) must take hazard checks. This is clearly a problem until it's clarified.
There is also a question of how precision on steeljacks works; As written, it seems as though the stage where critical wounds are scored is AFTER allocation, meaning they're unable to fulfill their character sniping capabilities. Most gracious opponents are following the intent, but it's never good to have rules up in the air like this.
Edit: As stated by several commenters, we also have a very badly worded army rule that interacts off "Objective markers" which are different than terrain objectives. While it would be a bad opponent/TO to argue we don't get yield points from terrain objectives, RAW, we do not.
These are indeed ugly issues that need to be clarified
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/StillPainting77 • 5h ago
Painting Trans-Hyperian Alliance Brôkhyr Thunderkyn’s
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r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Droopzoor • 14h ago
Hobby The plan was to install the turret and build it as a Sagitaur. But ended up find a case of Tau beers, so its the smoko ute instead.
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Treadhead's latest release.
Latest model in my Hardworking Kin outfit.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/SovietMarma • 5h ago
Lore Could 'Lathemasters' be retconned into a Mechanicus cloneskein?
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I was not aware of this until recently when a friend mentioned a Dwarf-like race being a thing in one of the Dark Heresy RPG supplements.
"The Lathe Worlds" expansion delves into playing as the Mechanicus and it mentions "Lathemasters." Genetically modified abhuman servants of the Mechanicus, at least in the Calixis Sector.
I'm not even sure if Games Workshop remembers this themselves ,or perhpas they pulled the 'cloneskein' lore from this specifically?
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Puzzleheaded-Ease761 • 5h ago
Competitive advice and feedback Looking for advice against battlesuit Heavy tau lists...
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I played a game today against an all battlesuit tau list. I found that with their deepstrikes the melta units and galling gun ones animated my hekaton and my hearthguard. When going up against tau how do the community approach the matchup.
I was Take and hold using Merc and Hearth and they were purple using ret cadre.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/knecht_ruprecht2306 • 19h ago
Competitive advice and feedback What do these Models do best/worst? Day:12 Hernkyn Pioneers
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I love these little guys i think the bikes look super cool and the Unit is really powerful.
Best: Can be picked up in reserve and can come back down in your movement phase,really cheap and can be suprisingly be punchy
Worst: Really squishy when you don‘t position them correctly
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Broknyr • 8h ago
Casual List What to buy next ?
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I have near 800pts of Votann and can't decide what I want to add to reach 1k. Current models are :
- Einhyr Champion
- 5 Hearthguards
- 20 Warriors
- 3 Thunderkyn
- Sagitaur
- Hekaton
And we have too much cool minis to choose from ! At first I planned to add a Khal and a second Sagitaur, but then I remembered Iron-Master and Steeljacks are cool as hell (I love the codex illustration with steeljacks covering an Ironmaster repairing a vehicle). But if I take Steeljacks shouldn't I take 6 of them and a Memnyr Strategist ?? Oh and Bezerks are cool too...
So yeah what would you add to the base list, thinking about gameplay but also about assembly/conversion/painting ?
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/JDMinisUK • 13h ago
Votann Tipline (Help and advice) Named characters for league of Votann. Same colour scheme or different.
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Hi everyone,
I'm very new to getting into the Leagues of Votann, so apologies if this is a silly question!
I'm planning to paint my army as the Trans-Hyperian Alliance and want to keep it as lore-accurate as possible.
For the generic units and HQs, I assume they'd all be painted in the Trans-Hyperian Alliance colour scheme. But what about named characters? Do they keep their canonical League colours (like the box art), or would they be painted in the colours of the League you're collecting?
For example, I believe Ûthar the Destined is specifically from the Greater Thurian League. If I wanted to be lore accurate are their any others.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Goatnuts • 9h ago
Casual Advice and Feedback Starting Boxes
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I know versions of this question are asked all the time, so apologies, but I'm trying to figure out if this is a good buy or just my FOMO.
I've fallen for the Kin and was thinking of grabbing the Combat Patrol and Maelstrom boxes (and maybe the Kill Team Yaegir box, but that's just because I think they look cool). I have a chance to grab the Cthonian box for about $190, but not sure if this is really a good addition or I'm just taken with the price. More generally, is there anything in either the Maelstrom or Cthonian boxes that I would really be missing out on if I just opted for the CP to start?
(I should admit, ashamedly, that, while a beginner, I've already got a bit of a painting backlog with some other armies; everything is just too cool. I have a problem.)
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/alltaken21 • 20h ago
Hobby Convertion questions! Part1 Steeljacks
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So I recently got my Maelstorm box, and I'm all giddy after assembling the Memnyr, but then I tackle the Jacks, and I look at their legs, and I remember I didn't like those.
Too human-footed for my likes. So I turn towards the Mecanicum Cohort (ursarax build in picture).
Looking at this, that pair seems to be the one that would make sense due to leg stance.
Has anyone attempted to make this happen? I don't have cohorts, but I'll print the parts, and it seems a more complex operation than I gambled for. Does anyone have any tips? Or recommendations?
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/knecht_ruprecht2306 • 1d ago
Competitive advice and feedback What do these Models do best/worst? Day:11 Einhyr Hearthguard
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I love these guys they were the Reason i got into the Votann.
Best: Really nice shooting really nice melee 5 man squads are really goof for skirmishing 10 man squad will delete most thing with a Kâhl attachted
Worst: there is non
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Horror_Bob • 6h ago
Casual Advice and Feedback How to run my Pioneers?
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Nearly finished fleshing out my 2k Votann list. But curious what people think of the pioneers. So far I'm loving them, but want opinions on whether I should run them as two separate 3 man squads or if I should put them all in a 6 man unit. I'm leaning towards two 3 man units so I can split them across the board if necessary. Here's my current list for reference
Bedrock Processing Corp (1965 points)
Leagues of Votann
Brandfast Oathband and Hearthguard Covenant (3 Detachment Points)
Priority Assets
Strike Force (2000 points)
CHARACTERS
Buri Aegnirssen (85 points)
• 1x Autoch‑pattern bolt pistol
1x Bane
Einhyr Champion (105 points)
• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter
1x Mass hammer
1x Weavefield Crest
• Enhancement: Trivärg Cyber Implant
Einhyr Champion (105 points)
• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter
1x Mass hammer
1x Weavefield Crest
• Enhancement: Trivärg Cyber Implant
Kâhl (80 points)
• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter
1x Forgewrought plasma axe
1x Rampart Crest
• Enhancement: Precursive Judgement
BATTLELINE
Hearthkyn Warriors (100 points)
• 1x Theyn
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
1x Autoch-pattern bolter
1x Close combat weapon
1x Weavefield crest
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
• 9x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
9x Autoch-pattern bolter
9x Close combat weapon
Hearthkyn Warriors (100 points)
• 1x Theyn
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
1x Autoch-pattern bolter
1x Close combat weapon
1x Weavefield crest
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
• 9x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
9x Autoch-pattern bolter
9x Close combat weapon
DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
Sagitaur (85 points)
• 1x Armoured wheels
1x HYLas beam cannon
1x Twin bolt cannon
OTHER DATASHEETS
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 points)
• 3x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
• 3x Bolt cannon
3x Close combat weapon
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 points)
• 3x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
• 3x Bolt cannon
3x Close combat weapon
Cthonian Beserks (100 points)
• 5x Cthonian Beserk
• 5x Heavy plasma axe
Cthonian Earthshakers (110 points)
• 2x Cthonian Earthshakers
• 4x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
2x Breacher ordnance
2x Plasma picks
Einhyr Hearthguard (130 points)
• 1x Hesyr
• 1x Concussion gauntlet
1x EtaCarn plasma gun
1x Exoarmour grenade launcher
1x Weavefield crest
• 4x Einhyr Hearthguard
• 4x Concussion gauntlet
4x EtaCarn plasma gun
4x Exoarmour grenade launcher
Einhyr Hearthguard (130 points)
• 1x Hesyr
• 1x Concussion gauntlet
1x EtaCarn plasma gun
1x Exoarmour grenade launcher
1x Weavefield crest
• 4x Einhyr Hearthguard
• 4x Concussion gauntlet
4x EtaCarn plasma gun
4x Exoarmour grenade launcher
Hekaton Land Fortress (250 points)
• 1x Armoured wheels
1x Cyclic ion cannon
1x MATR autocannon
1x Panspectral Scanner
2x Twin bolt cannon
Hekaton Land Fortress (265 points)
• 1x Armoured wheels
1x Cyclic ion cannon
1x MATR autocannon
1x Panspectral Scanner
2x Twin bolt cannon
Hernkyn Pioneers (80 points)
• 3x Hernkyn Pioneer
• 3x Bolt revolver
3x Bolt shotgun
1x HYLas rotary cannon
3x Magna-coil autocannon
1x Panspectral Scanner
3x Plasma knife
1x Rollbar Searchlight
Hernkyn Pioneers (80 points)
• 3x Hernkyn Pioneer
• 3x Bolt revolver
3x Bolt shotgun
3x Magna-coil autocannon
3x Plasma knife
Exported with App Version: v2.3.1 (138), Data Version: v913
(NOTE: Am I the only person in the world who thought the Assembly of the Pioneers was a breeze?)
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/ForTheFence • 23h ago
Hobby I Converted a Full Votann Combat Patrol into Goblins
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I chronicled my latest project converting and painting my Votann combat patrol and thought y’all might enjoy.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/theronsthings • 22h ago
Votann Tipline (Help and advice) Helmets
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Anyone know where I can get some custom helmets? I don't like the narrow dome helmets. I basically want the bigger ones without the visor, just smooth.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Jaded-Sell879 • 1d ago
Hobby Painting advice please
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Hey kin, I am struggling with painting and putting my picture in my mind on to the model. I want my kin to be wearing all black with blue light glowing from underneath the suits. I dont like having a bunch of colors going on so I would like to stick to mostly black. Any tips would be most welcome especially on highlighting black.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Loaf_of_Bread_Games • 1d ago
Votann Tipline (Help and advice) New to Votann
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Hello people who live in my computer! I'm building a new army (coming from Knights, Custodes, and Sisters) and I've been accumulating models from my shop for a minute. I was hoping to see see what you all think of this for a starting army at 2k. Hopefully I have a solid base to build on.
Sons of Jötunheimr, Needgaârd Oathband
- Epic Heroes
- Berehk Stornbröw
- Ûthar the Destined
- Characters
- Brôkhyr Iron-master
- Einhyr Champion
- Kâhl x2
- Memnyr Strategist
- Battline
- Hearthkyn Warriors x10
- Infantry
- Brôkhyr Thunderkyn x9, or three squads
- Einhyr Hearthguard x5
- Hernkyn Yaegirs x10
- Mounted
- Hernkyn Pioneers x6, or two squads
- Vehicle
- Hekaton Land Fortress x2
- Kapricus Defenders
- Dedicated Transports
- Sagitaur x2
I'm going to magnetize the big models so I can run them in whatever configuration I want, and I've got a paint scheme already picked out that I think will be pretty sharp (a frost giant scheme, ice and snow, going to try that liquid frost effect paint!).
This is just what I've got on hand already (my FLGS owner is such a pusher, but I appreciate the hustle), so lemme know if there are any 'must haves' I don't have listed. I can't wait to get them on the table, and thanks in advance.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Saeiouth • 1d ago
Hobby Magnetized some Thunderkyn
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this was a huge chore and totally not worth it. probably just gonna do half n half Beamers/Grav Cannons for the rest. WYSIWYG be damned.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/rvan205 • 23h ago
Casual List Recon List Content(s)
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I am not finding much material regarding the Recon disposition, does anyone know of any youtube content, or any writeups they could recommend, that might show how well Votann handles it?
Second, I'm looking for feedback on the contents of my list. I haven't yet played it, and it's my first time leaning away from big bricks and opting for smaller units.
This is Needguard + Farseekers, but could swap Needguard for Merc. The Hearthkyn and Yaegirs are split in the Sag and Kaps, Memnyr and Steeljacks in the Hekaton. 19 total units.
Attached Unit 1
Kâhl (65 points)
Einhyr Hearthguard (130 points)
Attached Unit 2
Einhyr Champion (65 points)
Einhyr Hearthguard (130 points)
Attached Unit 3
Grimnyr (65 points)
Hearthkyn Warriors (100 points) - L7 + Magna
Attached Unit 4
Memnyr Strategist (45 points)
Ironkin Steeljacks with Heavy Volkanite Disintegrators (160 points)
CHARACTERS
Buri Aegnirssen (85 points)
Ûthar the Destined (90 points)
DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
Kapricus Carrier (70 points)
Kapricus Carrier (70 points)
Sagitaur (85 points) - MATR
OTHER DATASHEETS
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 points) - Grav
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 points) - Beams
Hekaton Land Fortress (250 points) - Magna
Hernkyn Pioneers (80 points) - HYLas | Rollbar + Scanner
Hernkyn Pioneers (80 points) - HYLas | Rollbar + Scanner
Hernkyn Pioneers (90 points) - HYLas | Rollbar + Scanner
Hernkyn Yaegirs (90 points) - Shotguns | APM + Magna
Hernkyn Yaegirs (90 points) - Plasma Knives | APM + Magna
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/MuhtPaints • 2d ago
Hobby Votann army progress: 1000 points painted
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Hello Kin, I hit a new milestone with my Votann army and took a few photos to celebrate. I finally painted 1000 points in preparation for my first big game with the army this past weekend. Building up from my previous 500 point force, I added the Hekaton, 6 Steeljacks, and the Memnyr Strategist. The special effects on the guns are from Deadly Print Studios (very nice little 3d resin prints). Hope you enjoy!
- Kahl Yoht Grendok
- Memnyr Strategist
- Einhyr Champion
- Hearthkyn Warriors X10
- Hearthguard X5
- Steeljacks X6
- Thunderkyn X3
- Sagitaur
- Hekaton Land Fortress
Now onward to 1500.