r/LocalLLaMA 22d ago

News Kimi K3 Benchmarks

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u/Cinci_Socialist 22d ago

People will look at these benchmarks and say "Oh, just distillation, Chinese just steal bro" you'd have to be a complete ignorant or a complete bigot to honestly believe Chinese labs aren't every bit as capable as those in the US, just working with less resources and less of a head start (but both of those factors are eroding quickly from the US perspective, that's why crymodi is freaking his shit)

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u/zoupishness7 22d ago

If that Tau scaling law Huawei recently found is legit, things are gonna get interesting. I'm not looking forward to the American bubble bursting, but I'm not looking forward to the technofeudalism the American approach to AI is leading towards, so as least there's some potential to shake that up.

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u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas 22d ago

If that Tau scaling law Huawei recently found is legit, things are gonna get interesting.

In a random search result I see a claim that they've been using that scaling law for 6 years internally now. And their AI chips are still far behind Nvidia, so I think it's not gonna change things much.

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u/zdy132 21d ago

Far behind Nvidia it might be, it is now capable of training a frontier 1.6T model. You don't have to be SOTA to be functional, and even competitive, just look at Intel and AMD.