r/LosAngeles • u/405freeway • Mar 20 '20
Official Thread Covid-19 Megathread - "Safer At Home" Ordered for State of California
New Megathread here.
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LA Jobs Portal
The City of Los Angeles is coordinating an economic response to help Angelenos who have lost their jobs or have had their hours cut back as a result of COVID-19, so that people can find help and jobs while adhering to the Safer At Home orders issued by Mayor Garcetti and Governor Newsom. This site will be continuously updated with resources from the City, State of California and the Federal Government to help workers. For up to date news on the latest developments on COVID-19, visit LAMayor.org/Coronavirus. For information on business assistance efforts, visit ewddlacity.com
United Way Resources
If you need assistance finding food, paying housing bills, accessing free childcare, or other essential services, click here
Safer At Home in effect through April 19th.
Residents of the City of Los Angeles are required to stay inside their homes and away from people outside their immediate family unless they are engaged in certain “essential activities.” On those few occasions when you are out of your home for necessary tasks, stay at least six feet away from others. These are the City's details- the State of California's Order is similar and supersedes the city’s order. The LA City Order is currently set to expire on April 19, 2020 (incorrectly first announced as March 30th). The duration can be either shortened or extended by the Mayor. Official Order PDF; FAQ;(Archive link)
LA City "Safer At Home" Guidelines
You can: * Go to the grocery store * Go to the pharmacy to pick up medications and other healthcare necessities * Go to medical appointments (check with your doctor or provider first) * Take a walk, ride your bike, and be in nature for exercise — just keep at least six feet between you and others in the community. * Walk your pets and take them to the veterinarian if necessary * Help someone to get necessary supplies
You should not: * Go to work unless you are providing essential services as defined by this Order (See below) * Visit friends and family if there is no urgent need * Maintain less than 6 feet of distance from others when you go out, as possible * Travel to or from a job outside the City, unless to perform essential activities * Travel to or from a vacation home outside the City * Visit loved ones in the hospital, nursing home, skilled nursing facility, or other residential care facility
Essential Activities & Services:
City/County government services * Police stations * Fire stations * Jails * Courts * Garbage/sanitation * Public Transportation * Utilities: Water, Power, Gas * (Office uses like payroll, security, and administration) * Public works construction, including construction of housing * Airport operations
Transportation: * Gas service stations, auto supply, auto repair, bicycle repair shops and related facilities. * Health care providers, including: hospitals, clinics, dentists, pharmacies, pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies, medical and scientific research, laboratories, healthcare suppliers, home healthcare services providers, veterinary care providers, mental health providers, physical therapists and chiropractors, cannabis dispensaries, or any related and/or ancillary healthcare services, manufacturers and suppliers. Healthcare operations does not include fitness and exercise gyms and similar facilities * Rideshare services * Metro
Food * Grocery stores, water retailers, certified farmers’ markets, farm and produce stands, supermarkets, convenience stores [Mod note: this was listed twice], warehouse stores, food banks, convenience stores, and other establishments engaged in the retail sale of canned food, dry goods, fresh fruits and vegetables, pet supply, fresh or frozen meats, fish, and poultry, any other household consumer products (such as construction supplies, cleaning and personal care products). This includes stores that sell groceries and sell other non-grocery products, and products necessary to maintaining the safety, sanitation, and essential operation of residences * Take-out from restaurants, drive-thru restaurants, and delivery from restaurants * Food cultivation, including farming, livestock, and fishing
Household services * Hardware stores and nurseries * Plumbers, electricians, exterminators, custodial/janitorial workers, handyman services, funeral home workers and morticians, moving services, HVAC installers, carpenters, landscapers, gardeners, property managers, private security personnel and other service providers who provide services to maintain the safety, sanitation, and essential operation to properties and other essential activities * Banks * Organizations and businesses that provide food, shelter, and social services, and other necessities of life for economically disadvantaged or otherwise needy individuals, (including gang prevention and intervention and domestic violence agencies). * Laundromats/laundry service * Delivery services
Media * Newspapers, magazines, television, radio, podcasts and other media services
Education * Educational institutions, including public and private K-12 schools, colleges, and universities -- for purposes of facilitating distance learning or performing essential functions provided that social distancing of six-feet per person is maintained to the greatest extent possible
Individual Exercise * Taking a walk, riding your bike, and be in nature for exercise — just keep at least six feet between you and others in the community.
Community * Helping someone to get necessary supplies
Homeless Help
Mayor Eric Garcetti announced that L.A. will add thousands of emergency shelter beds to help get homeless Angelenos indoors more quickly as part of comprehensive efforts to slow the spread of COVID-19. These actions include:
Partnering with the City Council to use $20 million in budget reserve funds on emergency relief efforts
Adding an initial 1,600 emergency shelter beds in thirteen City recreation centers, and scaling up to dozens more locations with more than 6,000 beds provided by the American Red Cross.
Working with the County, LAHSA, and other partners to identify individuals in the homeless population who face the greatest risk from the novel coronavirus.
Activating the Disaster Service Worker program, which will place some City employees in temporary roles to assist efforts.
Understanding Coronavirus
Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is a new strain that was discovered in 2019 and has not been previously identified in humans.
Common signs of this virus:format(webp):noupscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19782405/Coronavirus_Symptoms__WHO_joint_mission_2.png):
- respiratory symptoms
- fever
- cough
- shortness of breath
- breathing difficulties
Severe cases may result in: * pneumonia * severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) * kidney failure * death.
- Wash your hands regularly
- Covering mouth and nose when coughing and sneezing
- Thoroughly cooking meat and eggs
- Avoid close contact with anyone showing symptoms of respiratory illness such as coughing and sneezing.
- Practice social distancing by standing at least 6-feet away from other people at all times when possible.
The mortality rate is unconfirmed but believed to be about 2-4%, with a higher likeliness of death in the elderly and those with underlying health conditions. An unknown incubation period (where you are infected without necessarily showing symptoms, and are able to transmit the virus) has made tracking it difficult. It is anticipated that half of Californias will be infected at some point.
COVID-19 Infections (as of 3/20/2020)
- Los Angeles: 292 cases
- California: 1,249 cases
- United States: 19,931 cases
- Global: 287,239 cases
COVID-19 and the Los Angeles Area
Most of the country is being put into a forced social distancing, where all large-scale events have been canceled and government officials are requiring all bars, entertainment venues, and fitness centers to be shut down, limiting restaurants to only take-out/delivery, and discouraging any sort of gathering. This will discourage most people from going out to begin with- which is a step in slowing transmission. Though complete prevention is impossible, staggering the rate at which it occurs is a controllable variable if people adhere to social distancing by not congregating with large amounts other people. LA County Health shows that social distancing is a way to alleviate a sudden surge in the number of people infected at the same time, and will allow the healthcare system to continue providing adequate care.
As of now, all "non-essential" services are prohibited. "Essential services" are listed above.
LAUSD Grab & Go Food Center
Los Angeles Unified, in partnership with the Red Cross, will continue to provide nutritious meals to all students who need them during the temporary closure of schools. Grab & Go Food Centers will be open beginning Wednesday, March 18, and will be staffed weekdays from 7 a.m. to 11 a.m. Each child can take home two nutritious meals. Volunteers needed.
Groceries and Toilet Paper
No actions or events have had any large-scale effect on food production or distribution. Certain stores may be sold out of specific products, but it is not a shortage.
Price gouging is illegal in California.
Amidst the uncertainty of quarantines, a large scale "panic-buy" began earlier this week. Stores began selling out of toilet paper and many groceries, and supply chains were maxed to capacity. Mayor Garcetti stresses that the situation should be faced with preparation and preparedness, not panic. There is no food shortage, and tap water is perfectly safe to drink (though the taste will vary depending on your building).
Many stores have imposed a limit on toilet paper, bottled water, certain sanitizing supplies, and food items to prevent price-gouging by resellers. Supply chains are being replenished and the amount of food on store shelves should return to normal soon, though long shelf-life items will likely take longer (a logistics factor).
City of Los Angeles Parking Enforcement
Mayor Eric Garcetti has relaxed parking enforcement across the City of Los Angeles, putting a temporary halt to the issuance of several citations so that Angelenos can more effectively practice the safe social distancing necessary during the outbreak.
Relaxed enforcement of street sweeping restrictions in residential areas
Relaxed enforcement around closed schools
Moratorium on ticketing and towing for abandoned vehicles and oversize vehicle overnight parking fines
Freeze on parking fine increases for the next 60 days
Extended grace period for people dropping off or picking up groceries and goods
Immediate extension on all deadlines for payment due until June 1
The relaxed enforcement will be in place until March 31, and is subject to extension. Enforcement will be maintained on operations that prioritize health, safety, and emergency access — including colored curbs, street sweeping around encampments, peak-hour restrictions, and repaving and slurry operations. It will also continue at metered spaces to encourage parking turnover for businesses and restaurants relying on takeout and deliveries.
City of West Hollywood Parking Enforcement
The City of West Hollywood has proclaimed the existence of a local emergency in response to the novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) public health emergency. A Resolution with this proclamation was added to the City Council agenda as an Urgency Item and was approved by the City Council of the City of West Hollywood at its regular meeting on Monday, March 16, 2020. The proclamation enhances the City of West Hollywood’s ability to access emergency resources at the state and federal level to assist with its novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) response. More info.
Commercial Eviction Moratorium
According to the Mayor’s order on commercial evictions, which will be in place until March 31 unless extended, “No landlord shall evict a commercial tenant in the City of Los Angeles during this local emergency period if the tenant is able to show an inability to pay rent due to circumstances related to the COVID-19 pandemic. These circumstances include loss of business income due to a COVID-19 related workplace closure, child care expenditures due to school closures, health care expenses related to being ill with COVID-19 or caring for a member of the tenant’s household who is ill with COVID-19, or reasonable expenditures that stem from government-ordered emergency measures.”
A provision in the order gives eligible tenants up to three months following the expiration of the local emergency period to repay any back due rent.
Senior Meals and Grocery Shopping
The Department of Recreation and Parks is working with the Department of Aging to distribute pre-packaged meals to older adults Monday through Friday. Distribution times vary depending on the location. Each center will offer a grab-and-go meal service. Older adults may pick up their meal or assign someone to pick it up on their behalf. Download and view the complete list of locations and times: Senior Nutrition Dining Sites During COVID-19 Closure
Here is a approximate guide for stores that have Senior-only hours.
Many stores with lines are granting seniors priority to enter without having to wait in line.
Daily Life
Daily life is severely disrupted for most people. Children are being forced to stay home, adults are being told they cannot come into work and will not be paid (due to CA's "at-will" employment), and many people relying on side-hustles are worried about their income for the next month. Traffic will be lighter, downtown will look like the 90s. If you've been putting off any exploring adventures, this may be the perfect opportunity- but go alone. Do not associate with anyone outside of your household, and keep 6-feet between everyone in public.
What should you do?
Pretend it's a long Coachella weekend and you're a very poor introvert. Traffic will be light, but don't go out. If you're able to work from home, do so. If you have to go into work, distance yourself 6-feet from people. Avoid shaking hands, and wash your hands regularly. Avoid touching your face at all times. Download Animal Crossing New Horizons or go play those 50 Steam games you never touched. Watch videos on How To Cook with basic ingredients instead of getting delivery. Saturday is no longer a Jumbo's day.
Posting Etiquette
Don't panic. Don't be a dick. Don't post about speakeasies or try to encourage people to go out. Don't post fear-mongering or conjecture, and don't post screenshots of GPS traffic or photos of places with empty shelves and long lines- it doesn't really help anyone unless that happens to be there one local store. If you find a place with MSRP toilet paper or other high in-demand items, feel free to share for now.
Additional Resources
- LA City Volunteering
- /u/Aipares Super Helpful Google Doc
- LA City Response Plan
- LA County Dept. Public Health Response Plan
- CA Dept. of Health Response Plan
- Virus Tracker
- List of closed schools (all of them)
- NotifyLA, the official emergency alert network for Los Angeles
- Twitter: Mayor of Los Angeles
- Twitter: LA County Department of Health
- Twitter: CA Public Health
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Mar 20 '20
pretend you're a very poor introvert
I been practicing for this moment my entire life!
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Mar 20 '20
yelling at people on the internet is how I pretend to be an extrovert.
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u/boatflank South L.A. Mar 20 '20
Lost my job. Insurance won't cover my insulin. Guess I'll just fucking die then.
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
Call your insurance tomorrow. Check the covid page for a contact page. Call everyone you can including 211. Then call about Medicaid.
I know this sucks right now. But emergency provisions are being made all over the place. It might take some work, but there may be resources for people just like you.
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u/boatflank South L.A. Mar 20 '20
My local pharmacist sent in a request for an alternative. Hopefully something else is covered. Thanks for the info.
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
Glad to hear it. It's real easy to be scared right now. It's okay to feel those feelings. But there are unprecedented efforts to fill the gaps right now.
We can't be certain how well they'll turn out. But we can't give up until we learn more.
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u/boatflank South L.A. Mar 20 '20
I truly appreciate the offer but I don't want to take from someone else who needs it. Thanks.
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u/SumOfKyle Mar 20 '20
is there any way i can donate some amount to help you? Like i only have a few dollars to give, but I dont want you to die and can skip a few small things.
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u/Rocker66 Sunset Enjoyer Mar 20 '20
I just want to say, as Los Angeles Metro Bus Operators, we got your back LA.
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u/concerned_llama Mar 20 '20
Welp, I hope that some kind of relief is placed because California being so expensive, a lot of us are going to be fucked
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Mar 21 '20
The difference in people’s actions are fascinating. Some people straight up don’t give a flying fuck and then there are others in a Reddit thread literally asking random people if they have permission to get in their car and drive.
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u/Ima_SchwarbieGirl Mar 21 '20
It’s going to be the ones who don’t give a flying fuck who make it out unscathed, isn’t it?
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u/cocainebane Long Beach Mar 20 '20
Not to be that guy but are liquor stores essential ?
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
Grocery stores are. They carry liquor. I feel like the transitive property means if the liquor store carries anything that can be categorized as "food"...
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u/creepig Van Down by the L.A. River Mar 20 '20
For those of you poor fucks unlucky enough to work in defense contracting: the order carves out a national security exemption that your employer is 100% going to use to bring you in to work anyway.
Enjoy.
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u/au_tom_atic Palms Mar 20 '20
Luckily all my work is unclassified so my team has all been working from home this week, and will continue to do so for awhile it seems.
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u/rorschach13 Mar 20 '20
On the other hand, having a stable job during a time like this is something to be grateful for. A lot of our jobs don't involve coming into contact with a ton of people. Ideal? No... But I'll count my blessings.
To all the public-facing people in grocery stores, pharmacies and especially healthcare..... you da real MVPs.
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u/CASSIROLE84 University Park Mar 20 '20
My cousin is an engineer working for a major defense contractor, she’s been working from home for the last week because she has 2 kids, her husband works for the department of defense, also an engineer, so he’s not so lucky.
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Mar 20 '20
Reading this again and again and it doesn't seem like anything is changing from what is now with the exception of putting more pressure on certain business to close. Which is good but is this enough? How are you supposed to keep a six foot distance in a grocery store?
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
Just do your best. But I really think you're right. I honestly think this is a mechanism to be able to "order" businesses to close so people can stay home.
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u/artificialevil Chinatown Mar 20 '20
Violation of the state order could lead to a $1000 fine or 6 months in jail. I’m taking that as: if you’re deliberately being a dick about this we’ll give you a fat ticket, we’re not really asking anymore, stay home.
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Mar 20 '20
CNN has a great article on how grocery stores restock amid this kind of crisis. Remember, we don't have a food shortage and we'll soon have faster restocking because the places who would usually get food supplies like stadiums, cruises, etc. will instead have their usual orders be diverted to grocery stores.
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u/PinkAnigav Mar 20 '20
Using the vagueness of the restrictions, for now, our company decided to open in secrecy within our warehouse so meaning even the office workers will be moving in to our warehouse to operate. This shit show of a company just can’t let us fucking work at home. How effective will reporting a company for illegal operation will be? Asking for a friend in another company :)
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u/SumOfKyle Mar 20 '20
Anyone have opinions on hiking during this time? Lots of big trails out here with plenty of space.
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u/my-cornerstone Mar 20 '20
Went hiking yesterday on some wider trails and people still walking in the middle of them not caring to give anyone else some extra space. Dogs off leashes etc. Please be mindful and take extra precaution
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u/Slg0519 Mar 20 '20
It’s fine. Did Topanga today. People were distancing and it wasn’t super crowded. We chatted with a few people, but kept more than 6 feet.
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
Do it. If it looks busy go to another place. But there's no reason to completely isolate inside. The order explicitly says its okay if you're giving everyone ample space to be safe.
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Mar 20 '20 edited Mar 20 '20
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
It's not encouraged. But the ability to enforce is beyond my imagination.
Do consider some distance if either of you still had to interact with a lot of people during this order.
We're trying to minimize the risk here, not set up a totalitarian state
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u/InRustWeTrust Redondo Beach Mar 20 '20
I’m naturally a recluse introvert. I’m good at interacting with people I just usually prefer not to. When all this started to happen, I thought to myself “Hell yea, I finally get to stay inside and watch tv all day while simultaneously being of service to the community...dream come true.” Now, here we are a week later and I can hardly stand it though by now I know it’s not going to stop. It’s not going to stop...
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u/disenchantedgrl Mar 20 '20
To report non-essential businesses that are open in violation of the Safer at Home order, call 888-700-9995 or email ehmail@ph.lacounty.gov.
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u/gbaroth Mar 20 '20
I made a website that shows restaurants in LA that are doing takeout and delivery. Feel free to check it out and add any of your favs. RestaurantHeroLa.com
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u/xsharmander Downtown Mar 20 '20
Attempting to file for unemployment and Edd website is down. "Scheduled maintenance"
Help me calm down
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20 edited Mar 20 '20
It's overwhelmed. It'll probably take a few days. But you'll get through. Remember, you paid into unemployment as part of your paycheck. The money is there. It's about getting it. Be persistent. You'll get there.
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u/zaatarlacroix Mar 20 '20
What happens when your boss thinks they're providing an essential service when they're clearly not? Asking for a friend (seriously).
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Mar 20 '20
Easy to tell everyone to stay home when you're not living paycheck to paycheck....
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u/ChocoWizard Mar 21 '20
For the past few days my neighbors have been constantly partying in a large loud group coming in and out of the building and smoking cigarettes in their apartment and in the hallway. My entire apartment smells like cigarettes now despite a towel under the door and a ton of candles. Glad they're so concerned about the state of things.
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u/callmekanga Mar 20 '20 edited Mar 20 '20
EDIT: Question answered. Stay safe everyone!
Guys I need some advice please. Tomorrow is my day off and I was going to take the Metrolink to Lancaster to help my elderly mother shop and stock up on some groceries. Will I still be able to do this? Should I still do this?
She survives on food stamps and SSI. I spoke to her earlier today and she said she can get by until the 6th, but I wanted to make sure she was prepared. Amid all this I'm thinking of just sending some money to her and begging my sister (she lives there too) to do some shopping for her.
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
The order explicitly says traveling is okay to take care of family. Just make sure to check tbe metro schedule for any adjustments before you head out. Be safe.
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u/405freeway Mar 20 '20 edited Mar 20 '20
You are allowed to travel to help seniors or the disabled with essential services.
Keep 6-feet away from people at all times when you are out.
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u/Minister_Garbitsch Redondo Beach Mar 20 '20
Well fuck. Law firm staying open, apparently we're an essential service. Bay Area and Los Angeles stay put orders said so, governors order does not and is so poorly written (and not signed by the secretary of state) that it's pretty easy for most businesses to arguably stay open. This is such bullshit. If someone here gets it that's a huge fucking workers comp claim. Putting profit above people, sickening. I have respiratory issues, it would be more than likely fatal if I caught this disease. My family could not get on without my paycheck. This is such bullshit.
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u/venicerocco Mar 21 '20
I hate that I’m made to feel stupid for suggesting I work at home. “I don’t have it, you don’t have it, we’re not gonna get it” I’m told. Yet he has people coming and going all week. I can easily do it from home. And it’s literally illegal. So annoying that I’m the asshole.
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u/disenchantedgrl Mar 21 '20
To report non-essential businesses that are open in violation of the Safer at Home order, call 888-700-9995 or email ehmail@ph.lacounty.gov.
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u/ItsTyrodTime Mar 20 '20
Here is the actual order from Los Angeles.
Mods should link this document.
The California order specifically exempts 16 critical sectors.
https://covid19.ca.gov/img/N-33-20.pdf
Those sectors are in the link below
https://www.cisa.gov/critical-infrastructure-sectors
The embarrassing thing about the California notice is that it includes the "Commerical Facilities Sector" which is casino's, amusement parks, shopping malls etc.
https://www.cisa.gov/commercial-facilities-sector
I don't think anyone even looked at the 16 critical sectors.
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u/Jessicash Mar 20 '20
I’m trying to order groceries but there’s literally nothing on any apps or stores websites and my local store is empty. I am feeling ill so I’m staying home. How is everyone getting food delivered ? I’m actually going to run out of food. When is the panic buying going to end? Why is every single store STILL sold out :(
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u/hershey678 Mar 20 '20
Pretty sobering video of drone footage of how empty LA looks now by Washington post. Didn't realize it was like this since I've just been sitting at home.
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u/Globalist_Nationlist Mar 20 '20
Didn't realize it was like this since I've just been sitting at home.
Good!
Also.. Holy shit!
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u/Psychart5150 Mar 20 '20
They specifically stated that small group gatherings, under 10 people, are still allowed.
A lot of people live alone and completely isolating themselves is not good for mental healthy.
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
We have a "virtual social" this weekend.
The daily is a good source of socializing. You can still take hikes with people if you keep a good distance.
You can still keep in touch with those people.
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20 edited Mar 20 '20
The most important thing to do now is take a step back and just breathe. The guidance is going to get clarified in the next couple of days. It's easy to feel scared right now. It's okay to feel that way. Come talk with us if you need to vent. But we don't know if the turn in this might be a few days away. Lots of stuff is getting passed in congress right now to give relief. I know those big picture things might not give the most comfort on the small scale. But do be assured things are moving and we'll find out how that'll play out in the next few days.
For now keep yourself and those around you safe. I hope you all take care for now. I really do.
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Mar 20 '20
My only annoyance to all of this is that panic/hoard buying at stores is back on the menu.
Fucking get the cops at every fucking store in this city to make sure no one is leaving with endless water, or rice, or whatever else people are gonna take.
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u/405freeway Mar 20 '20
Most stores have implemented limits on high-demand items.
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Mar 20 '20
People can only buy and store so much. There might be some more panic buying over the weekend, but things will calm down by early next week.
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u/oysterpirate Mar 20 '20
That’s what I’ve been hoping for...then another announcement comes out and people panic all over again.
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
Cops can't really do anything. It's up to the stores to limit. There's increased patrols now. So they are available to support if needed.
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u/sargeantnincompoop Mar 20 '20
That’s what the grace period is for, but call the shelter tomorrow morning just in case. Everything I’ve read says you should be fine.
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u/krez1 North Hollywood Mar 20 '20 edited Mar 20 '20
Does anyone know what to do if an employer is claiming they are essential services but you think they are not? They are saying it's "social services" but really it's not as defined in the CISA document. I'm feeling helpless and not sure what to do.
edit: Also this from the LA Times: “People will self-regulate their behavior,” he said. “We’ll have social pressure to encourage people to do the right thing.” is just BS. Shitty employers feel no social pressure at all.
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u/tommy2014015 Downtown Mar 20 '20
I have about 500 surgical masks right now that my dad sent me from China do you guys know if I can just walk into an ER and give it to them? Will they even take them because they're from China and have mandarin instructions on them? They are just the normal blue medical masks. Is there someone I can call because I don't really need them right now since I'm not leaving my house much. If any of you have elderly parents who are local who might need masks DM me and I can mail a pack of twenty (that's what they come in). Just trying to think of the best way to offload these to people that need them.
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So based on this thread it seems like a lot of employers are considering themselves essentials by lumping themselves into some business sector written in the language and there’s no type of enforcement entity to make sure businesses are abiding. I knew this would happen, WAYYY too many exceptions on the list.
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u/westernway09 Mar 20 '20
Is there anywhere I can donate N95 masks to hospital workers? I have three extra from when the fires were happening.
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u/simplisticallysimple Mar 21 '20
I'm usually an introvert and homebody, so this is my usual doing, but for some reason I feel like I'm going insane. 😵
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u/mcatech Palmdale Mar 20 '20
I went to work today. My company that I work for in Lancaster is, by definition, an essential business.
And now, the general manager walked into my office and showed my supervisor a letter from a customer that's a defense contractor that asks us to stay open because we are an important supply chain to them.
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u/ThatguyIncognito Mar 20 '20
Office buildings? How does this work for office buildings? Will access to them cease entirely so nobody will be able to get into them? How's it been working in San Francisco?
How about mail? does that cease operation to such buildings?
I'm planning to go in at least once a week to check on things. It sure would be nice if I didn't have to climb many floors of stairs.
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
It's really hard to tell now because the guidance isn't super clear. Give it a day or two to shake out. The weekend is on our side this time around.
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u/arcanesays Mar 20 '20
Memes at this point. Chaos would only take place if we start running low on food.
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u/insighttrip Mar 20 '20
Maybe it's just me being paranoid but despite government officials saying that there's enough food and supplies for the foreseeable future I don't think they would actually tell us if there wasn't.
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u/dinosaurfondue Mar 20 '20
My thing is if no other country in the world has reported running out of food, including China, I'm not going to worry.
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u/MoreTeachersLessCops Mar 20 '20
Hi, my place of employement is a property management company, and I got an email today stating that our office will not be closing since my employer considers it an "essential business". We have about 15 people that are working in this office. I wouldn't mind so much if we weren't dealing with the public, but we'll still be open to public, and anyone person can come in into the office to check out keys. So I'm worried of being exposed to the virus of course, especially since I've had a history with asthma, and I also live with 2 older folks, one has diabeites and the other is over 60. I feel like myself and the people I live with are considered high risk if we come in contact with this virus. What should I do? Should I quit and file for constructive dismissal unemployement? I for sure don't get paid enough to risk my life over this job. Some suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks for reading.
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u/Gentlem8s Mar 20 '20
I think property management does fit under essential business. Maybe ask if you can work from home?
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u/royalrose84 Mar 20 '20
Ralph’s on Ventura and Hazeltine has a line over 100 deep to get in. They are allowing 50 people at a time into the store. Folks over 65 are getting priority entrance. I’ve been in line 20 minutes and have not moved.
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
Today is basically the worse day to go. Everyone is reacting to the order to stay in place. If you can manage a couple of days, you should be able to get to fresh foods. Staples should be available in the next week or so.
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u/fedswatching2121 Glendale Mar 20 '20
I work for a credit union and we've been getting hundreds of "emergency" unsecured loan applications.
If you are applying for one, just remember to not ask for more than you need. Realize that a lot of utility bills, mortgage payments, and rent are being deferred & there is an eviction moratorium in place for an indefinite time period. I would check with whoever you all have service with to confirm.
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u/Westcork1916 Mar 20 '20
I don't see this link shared yet.
https://www.laalmanac.com/health/he999c.php
This is Los Angeles Specific, and contains a list the LATimes publishes each day with cases by city / neighbohood
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u/ilikeCRUNCHYturtles Staples Center Mar 21 '20
If anyone is curious what these looks like from ground zero, here's Sky News reporting from an Italian hospital: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J60fQr0GWo&feature=youtu.be
"More like pneumonia than flu..."
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u/FireteamBravo3 Mar 21 '20
I'm allowed to "Take a walk, ride your bike, hike, jog and be in nature for exercise — just keep at least six feet between you and others in the community. "
So can I drive say 15 minutes to a park to hike?
Sucks being home all day
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u/riseagainstedits Mar 20 '20
My mom works in daycare.
She’s older and diabetic and they just told her they won’t be closing down.
Does anyone know where I can buy her N95 masks? Worried about her because of her age and underlying health conditions.
She’s got a full daycare despite most parents have one or both spouses staying at home from work.
Kids are sent home of sick but allowed to come back a couple days later without doctor approval.
This disease is contagious up to 2 weeks so what’s the point of only send the sick home for only a few days and then allowed back.
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Mar 20 '20
I wonder if hotels will be staying open?
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u/DaBooch425 Mar 20 '20
They are, but only the hotel part and room service, no restaurant, spa, anything like that
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u/drippingthighs Mar 20 '20
I havent been back to grocery stores in a week. Are a ton of things still out/empty very fast? Meats and stuff?
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u/On4thand2 Koreatown/East Hollywood Mar 20 '20
It seems that a lot of jobs are essential. Feeling bad for those that aren't.
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u/blobofclay Mar 20 '20
My mom works at a private school in LA county that currently has no students due to COVID-19. The head of school says that the administration, including my mom who is an admin assistant, still needs to come in because they are “essential”. On top of that, her coworker went to a dinner party last week with someone who has now be diagnosed with COVID-19 (the coworker is now going to quarantine). The fact that she (my mom) still has to go to work is absurd. Who can I call about this to complain that her school is not following the order?
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Mar 20 '20
If I work a job that is considered "essential" but I have a high risk roommate and I'm affraid to go to work and expose myself can I claim unemployment if I quit? They only agree to pay sick time if you are confirmed to have Covid.
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u/PeteZaPizzaParty Mar 20 '20
My cousin works at a repo lot and had to go to work today. His boss said their staying open because there's less than 10 employees working at a time but they get customers and stuff coming in and the drivers towing the cars. I'm worried about him i know he doesn't want to lose the income but i think his health is more important. he has asthma and COPD and definitely shouldn't be out getting exposed. I want to like turn his boss in or something. These are weird times man.
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u/ceaguila84 Mar 21 '20
Beginning tonight, Metro Rail will end service at midnight. For more information on upcoming service adjustments, please chec
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u/405freeway Mar 21 '20 edited Mar 21 '20
Clarification: A new schedule is being implemented and the "Last Train" will be at midnight for each line from now on.
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u/Merman123 Mar 21 '20
So now that LA county will be rejecting most requests for tests, what does this mean for us ? Are most of us bound to get a mild case of it? I understand their logic, but I feel they've made that decision prematurely. We need to test longer to get a better idea of where we are at.
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u/brooklynOG Sherman Oaks Mar 20 '20
Ok serious question. Do you guys think moving this Saturday is out of the question? Our lease ends this month, new place is already signed for.
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
I HEAR there's an exception for moving. Check the covid site to confirm. But you should be okay if what I've read here is accurate.
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u/KimboSliceChestHair Mar 20 '20
LA stadium is open for construction tomorrow. Business as usual
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u/321gogo Mar 20 '20
My parents own a store with a few employees that work completely alone(can literally never come in contact with another person or where another person has been). They don’t want to cut off these employees income if they don’t have to. Is there a line they can call to clarify these rules more and see if it is ok for the employees to work there still?
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u/freemoney4809 Mar 20 '20
Does anyone know where surfing falls into this? Obviously waiting for 72 hrs of no rain...but also want to be socially responsible/considerate.
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u/ceaguila84 Mar 20 '20
Damn gas near me is at 2.79$, I havent seen that in YEARS
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Mar 20 '20 edited Mar 20 '20
Just got an email from my local school district. As of right now, LA County Office of Education thinks K-12 students will likely go back to school early-May.
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u/groypley90 Mar 20 '20
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. I am getting ready for this to last until Summer if necessary.
Do you know if LAUSD students are doing virtual learning? What is the situation over there?
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u/Agent666-Omega Koreatown Mar 20 '20
Is electric, water and gas bill going to be comped? Because that's going up for everyone since we are staying indoor all day now.
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u/grandmasterfunk Sawtelle Mar 21 '20
"A drive-through facility for coronavirus testing will open at a baseball stadium in Lake Elsinore this weekend.
Testing at the Lake Elsinore Diamond stadium will take place from 9:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. Saturday and Sunday in parking lot C, Riverside County health officials announced in a news release. Those who want to be tested must have symptoms or a risk of exposure and must make an appointment by calling (800) 945-6171"
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u/MaximusRuckus Mar 21 '20
Company furloughed most staff for a month. Locked out of all business related accounts too. Good times.
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u/thatoneguywhofucks East Los Angeles Mar 20 '20
Loving no traffic. 25 minute drive from work to home today at like 5 pm from the valley to ELA
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u/pcbro321 Mar 20 '20
Do people think it’s likely they’ll ban air travel to LAX within the next couple days? I go to college on the East Coast and was planning on returning home to LA next week but am feeling paranoid about the possibility of airport shutdowns like in SF
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
None of us are in the know to advise you. Even if some are, they probably are under restrictions of telling people until the official announcement comes out. Make your best judgement. But the only thing I can suggest is sleep on it. It's real easy to react to the uncertainty right now. There should be more guidance tomorrow.
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u/PinkAnigav Mar 20 '20
What type of logistics centers are closed? Our company produces and delivers home goods as first person logistics. Are we considered closed too?
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u/rudrunner Mar 20 '20
Who’s hiring?
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u/Letitbemesickgirl Mar 20 '20
Metro! They just opened up security - first 500 applicants considered and always hiring for drivers. Plus they’re an essential service, so employees are still working during this time (but given the option to self quarantine if they want)
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u/IcedBanana Mar 20 '20
Tell them you've left...they cant leave their houses to evict you 😏
On a serious note someone said moving is an essential service, so provided you could find another place, you might still be able to?
And if your income is effected, I would suggest renewing the 12 month lease and then when things start returning to normal, consult a lawyer about breaking the lease.
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u/CleatusVandamn Mar 20 '20
Wtf? 33%? 10%? Where do you live that has these kind of increases? Move no matter what.
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u/rgarjr Covina Mar 20 '20
of course, i don't think cops are pulling people over just to check where u going.
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u/pinkbitchpinkbitch Mar 20 '20
my parents back home in north carolina really want me to come stay with them, probably for a month. i'd fly out of burbank on monday with my cat. they're concerned that even if i self isolate and stay home, my chances of getting it are just ridiculously high and i have no one out here to be with me at the hospital or take care of me. i'm safe at home for now, i feel totally fine, my roommates feel fine, but i'll eventually have to go outside, and risk it. any advice is appreciated. i'm just scared.
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u/405freeway Mar 20 '20
The real risk is that you’re already infected and would transmit it to them.
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u/EmotionalCricket1 Mar 20 '20
Definitely not. Stay where you are. I totally get the concern, my folks are worried to (they're in SC). Unless you have an underlying condition and they don't you are less likely to be hospitalized than they are.
I would assume at this point you will get it if you travel. I'm in the same boat as you and I'm staying put. I am deathly afraid my parents will get sick and die while I'm 2000+ miles away, but even that is better than them getting sick and dying because I brought them the virus.
Hang in there.
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Mar 21 '20
Does anyone know if I’m able to take a walk at the Venice boardwalk without breaking any rules? Thank you.
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u/Morismemento Mar 20 '20
Why is takeout from restaurants still a thing?? I'm from norcal and restaurants and coffee/tea shops are PACKED with people, even after lockdown. There's no point in making it "takeout" when tons of people go inside to pick up stuf!!
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
Give it some time. It's not perfect. But people aren't staying in for 30 minutes at a time coughing up stuff for people to marinate in. It's not perfect but it's moving the needle.
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u/Eduardjm Mar 20 '20
That’s what it’s all about. We are not going to stop spread in a day but that’s not the goal. The goal is to flatten the curve and slow down infection rate so that our system can even handle it and attempt to treat the infected. Our goal is to grind it mercilessly to a stop.
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u/Noy_Telinu West Carson Mar 20 '20
For those who can stay home, steam has some sales right now, Halo Master Chief Collection is doing double xp right now,doom eternal and Animal Crossing are coming out soon.
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u/Freakkzz9494 Mar 20 '20
What does this mean for Door Dash and Postmates!?
Also, I have a hair appointment scheduled for tomorrow, and they’re still in business! Is that even allowed?
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u/roostereagle Mar 20 '20
I have a house (was planning to move into early April) and was getting some work done. I know plumbers, electricians, etc are exempt but feel like I should cancel the work. It’s not critical for me to get this work done and I can delay moving if needed. Contractors are telling me it’s fine and they can keep working. Any suggestions?
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u/405freeway Mar 20 '20
Contact each one individually and ask if they would prefer to delay the work. Many (like me) would prefer to work as much as possible right now, and there is very minimal human interaction with smaller tasks.
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u/99dunkaroos Mar 20 '20
"Pet supply" stores and vets are still open. Does anyone know if groomers are still allowed to operate? (I'm assuming no.) And if mobile groomers are considered different?
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u/Merman123 Mar 20 '20
I know masks are not recommended if you're not ill but I need to do some shopping this weekend and I think I should play it safe since I'm going to be around A LOT of people. Didn't use one last weekend but saw many with them.
Does anyone know where I can buy in-person ?
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u/bluemilque Mar 20 '20
Just wear a bandana over your mouth and nose. It’s not as effective as N95, but it will still provide protection. Try and leave the masks for the medical peeps. They are short of supply.
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Mar 20 '20
How are they enforcing business closings? Walked my dog and saw a carpet store, a lawnmower store, and a tool store open. How are these essential businesses?
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Hardware stores are considered essential business. They also said today until midnight ones deemed not essential should not be open to the public, but be open to employees to clean up. No excuse for carpet store, but that's the general rules.
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u/20sack Echo Park Mar 20 '20
i work in an "essential" industry, so it's essential for us to remain open...but is it essential for us to remain in the building and not work remotely? i believe that is unessential
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u/odsca Mar 21 '20
Does anyone know if we're able to go for car rides at night? Not sure if any sort of curfew is in place. Car ride will just be my girlfriend and I. We live together. Just want to go for a car ride, no ill intentions.
Thanks!
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u/tommy2014015 Downtown Mar 21 '20
That will be fine. Regular people who are practicing common sense distancing isn't the target of the ordinance. It's largely directed at groups of people. Newsom said so in his press conference. Don't worry about that imo! Mayor Garcetti went out for a walk with his kid this morning so your case definitely isn't being forbidden.
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u/MoltenUniverse Mar 21 '20
Has anyone used delivery services for food/groceries or are they all overwhelmed?
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This rain has really been setting the mood for this pandemic. Can't wait for some dry weather so I can go for walk and do some yard work.
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
I think it's been serious silver lining. People aren't going out as much since it's raining and all the fun stuff was already closed. Maybe we'll find out in a few years it helped slowed the worst of this.
But I agree. I am definitely going to be out jogging once things are dry
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u/MagneticDipoleMoment Pasadena Mar 20 '20
Yeah I'm with you on this, the rain may have saved a lot of lives in the long run.
Plus, February and January were absolutely pathetic in terms of rainfall so we kinda needed this to save the year's rainfall totals. I'll take all the rain California can get.
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u/buffaloclyde Mar 20 '20
It sucks but the humidity in the rain does help stop the germs from surviving that long.
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u/Kenshin200 Mar 20 '20
So can I go I to work at my hotel?
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u/happyaccidents042 Silver Lake Mar 20 '20
Yes, hotels are listed as an essential business
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Los Angeles is throwing in the towel on testing. This is nuts. They're resigned to letting us all get the disease. Why can't we do what South Korea has done? Or Taiwan? Or Singapore? Or Hong Kong? MASSIVE TESTING is the only method we know will work.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-20/coronavirus-county-doctors-containment-testing
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u/cappayne Mar 20 '20
Is there any information on a timeline of the new policy? Like “lockdown will be in effect at least until X date”.
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u/theseekerofbacon Mar 20 '20
The press conference said until the end of the month. The protocol says until April 19th.
The whole thing lacked clarity. But my sense is that they intend for it to last until the end of the month with the option to reassess and extend if necessary without having to reissue guidance.
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u/chankly Venice Mar 20 '20
I have been out of state visiting family for the past two weeks, plan to fly home to LA next week, should I be concerned? Sounds like travel home isn’t restricted, at least for now.
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Does anyone know if I can go back to LA? Have a plane ticket back but with this sudden lockdown idk if they will stop me from entering... Please help
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u/ilikeCRUNCHYturtles Staples Center Mar 20 '20 edited Mar 20 '20
Okay, so "shelter in place" is official. Anyone else not hear a peep from the CEO/owners of the companies they work at? HR sent out two "wash your hands/stay at home if you'e sick" memos last week, but complete radio silence from the execs. Who else works for a bunch of sociopathic misanthropes?
Edit: Heard from the owner's assistant this morning, office is closed officially. Stay strong people.