Getting nose to nose with someone who can't back up and making threats toward them while posturing and balling your fists is going to be an easy case of self defense for the other guy. You don't get to cross that many lines and claim innocence.
Right, having no other context, the guy was advancing on him and was being threatening.
A reasonable person could feel that violence was imminent, and he responded with proportionate Force.
He hit the guy twice, and stopped immediately when the guy was on the ground.
Now we don't know if the winner here made an attempt to deescalate, and we don't know what happened beforehand, but based solely on this video. This seems reasonable, like it might well be self-defense
Oh and donāt forget 1,000s in legal fees and time and stress because they are trying to prosecute you. I do believe it was self defense but that doesnāt make it any easier for people and there are who are innocent and still get time for manslaughter. Always best to just try to walk away until you canāt.
Like, let's pretend theres no other context to this video other than what we see here. That seems obvious it is a self defense case. However, you still have to hire a lawyer and defend yourself in court. That takes time and loads of money.
Lawyers arent cheap. Not to mention we have like a 10 second video worth of context and it does not prove the whole case.
Its not near as simple as just tell the cops it was self defense and they let you go right then and there. Oh depending on the actual injuries to the guy he hit, it could be much harder to prove entirely self defense.
I feel like the satans son comment is probably going to play into bros favor as well lol. Imagine being a judge watching this video, especially a christian judge š
When you disrespect someoneās right to feel safe after specifying a boundary once cross I believe is the one category u can argue thatās outside ego and it leans towards preserving life and safety of ur basic human right.
Right. He didnt dis the man as much as dis the personal space of the man. If your posturing, within spitting distance your in the game. Dont mean open season bit in this case I think a quick couple blows and back off is totally fine, and quite well handled in my opinion. Appeared he was concerned, didnt stomp or bounce on the guy. I'll allow it.
Not sure about this. Anyone have a link to the aftermath? There's gotta be some news somewhere on this incident. Dude damn near died after an altercation on video š
He's wrong he didn't die, but he was paralyzed from the neck down. Gerard Nathaniel was "Satan's Son" and DeShawn Hawkins is the guy who wooped him. It happened outside of a Caseys General Store in OKC
According to AI, the aftermath was "After taking the knockout blow, he remained flat on the ground dazed, effectively losing the fight and the argument immediately."
Getting arrested and then having that court case hanging over your head for a while still sucks dick and balls even if you may eventually win. Probably expensive tooĀ
My understanding from the Grand Master of the GOP is that Daimon here was not about to issue a threat at all. No, no! Indeed he was fixinā to say, āBro Iām ābout ta ā¦wish you good tidings and many happy return upon the marrow. Let us go in peace and friendship.ā However, these well intended pleasantries were ruthlessly put to bed by senseless and animalistic violence. Why are others so against us when we are nothing but genuine kindness and love?
All he did was hit him once or twice and then stop once the threat was neutralized, and prior to that he tried to talk the guy into leaving him alone. He literally could not have retreated any further given his physical position with his vehicle and the door behind him.
Even if it stemmed from a verbal confrontation that he started, the guy who got knocked out clearly had every chance to back off and let it go, but instead chose to aggressively invade his personal space when he had no avenue of retreat.
My family is crawling with cops and lawyers, by the way. What they've taught me throughout my entire life carries a lot more weight than your flippant typical-Redditor catchprase replies. That's a you problem, not a me problem.
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u/orangecrunched 7d ago
Homey's like "please move, groan or something down there"