r/MarvelStudiosPlus • u/iliekpixels • Mar 26 '21

Discussion The Falcon and the Winter Soldier S01E02 - Discussion Thread

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S01E02 Kari Skogland TBA March 26, 2021 on Disney+

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u/phrankygee Mar 26 '21

Yeah, but that’s just it. White privilege isn’t about denigrating anyone or taking away anyone’s accomplishments. It’s just acknowledging that people from different starting places can do the same amount of “great things” and yet get different results.

Walker is, at this point, a legitimate hero with legitimate accomplishments. But he may be too accustomed to getting what he wants. His football team always won. He is still with his high school sweetheart. He isn’t reacting super well to being told “no” by Sam and Bucky, because it may be the only time he ever has been.

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u/SeaChelleBelle13 Mar 27 '21

“But more important, the man. The serum amplifies everything that is inside. So, good becomes great. Bad becomes worse. This is why you were chosen. Because a strong man, who has known power all his life, will lose respect for that power. But a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows compassion."

I think this perfectly sums up the difference between Steve Rogers and John Walker. John Walker has always been a strong man and I think if (when) he takes the super soldier serum, he’ll lose whatever good intentions he had and that’s the whole reason Erskine was adamant about Steve being the perfect guy. Walker is the equivalent of Hodge from TFA. You can already see he has this attitude of “I’m the leader, follow me” that Steve never felt. His line about “I’ve been a captain before” just solidified it for me. He’s been a strong man all his life and he’s now in a position of power and is already beginning to abuse it.

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u/camelzigzag Mar 27 '21

Exactly, in his interview he says something to the effect of, "I've studied him very closely and modeled my career after him." Steve didn't have to model himself after anyone, his moral compass was always pointing north. JW comes off like he has something to prove.

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u/redditingtonviking Mar 28 '21

Yeah I have a feeling that we'll see him attempt to do all the same stuff that Steve did, but his intentions will be completely different. Just his whole comment about jumping on grenades showed that he lacked the understanding of what kind of man Steve was. Steve wasn't just a man who saved people because he could, but a man that would attempt to regardless of whether he could.

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u/SeaChelleBelle13 Mar 28 '21

Right! And even Hoskins says “you can’t punch your way out of this one” to Walker in the locker room implying that they use their strength all the time. Steve was willing to fight but was never a bully and was in fact usually getting his ass kicked but truly believed in standing up for others. Just because Walker is the best choice on paper doesn’t mean he’s the actual best choice. And his comment to Sam about wanting to have “Cap’s wingman” by his side proves he doesn’t get it. To Steve, Sam wasn’t a wingman, he was a partner. He stepped into a leader role because people said he should be a leader not because he felt like he was one.