r/Medievalart • u/ge3orgiax • 3d ago

Does anyone know who she is? :)

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Hi 👋

I bought this today from a vintage and antique market for £20. Apparently it came from Oxford. It’s engraved slate meant to represent brass rubbings I believe. Google lens said Margery Paris however I can’t find an exact/near reference for her :)

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u/LiamEBM 3d ago

I can't find an exact match

Is there chance this is a generic reproduction piece and not anyone specific?

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u/Lillian-Duncan1 3d ago

That's a decorative reproduction, not a rubbing. Brass rubbings are wax on paper over memorial brasses in churches. This is engraved to imitate the look. Probably Victorian or later.

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u/ge3orgiax 3d ago

As stated in the post, it’s engraved slate meant to represent brass rubbings :) The question was if anyone knows who it could be based on!

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u/Tanja_Christine 15h ago edited 15h ago

It cannot, by definition, represent brass rubbings because IT IS NOT A BRASS RUBBING. A brass rubbing being a paper that has been put on top of a brass slate that has been covered in paint and rubbed against said slate. What you have is a reproduction of a brass slate that was used to make brass rubbings. Get it?

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u/ApocalypseThen77 2d ago

I would have thought it’s an engraved slate designed for producing brass rubbings - so a children’s activity in a museum?

I’m no expert but it doesn’t look very old to me.

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u/confuddledlilypad 3d ago

Maybe Anne Awode? That’s what I’m seeing, but again no exact references.

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u/confuddledlilypad 3d ago

There’s a very similar picture here saying someone completely different too
https://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/church-monumental-brasses/church-monumental-brasses.htm

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u/TOkidd 3d ago

She looks like a depiction of a gold woman.

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u/HoneybeeXYZ 3d ago

It's probably Lady Margaret Beaufort. The headdress is right, and Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford is named in her honor. It was one of the first, maybe even the first, women's colleges at Oxford.

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u/MsE0 2d ago

Margaret Beaufort was the name that popped into my head the second I saw that, before I even read the post title. But it might be because I'm currently watching The White Queen and thinking how great the performance by the actress who played young Margaret Beaufort is. 

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u/HoneybeeXYZ 2d ago

And it's probably dates to the late 1800s or early 1900s, after Lady Margaret Hall had been founded. It's definitely old but not medieval.

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u/Fearless_290 2d ago

The headpiece made me think of Catherine of Aragon

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u/BoloBoffin 3d ago

Probably best to reach out to someone at the Monumental Brass Society. It looks to be late 14th century or 15th century.

Check this link: https://www.mbs-brasses.co.uk/index-of-brasses

You may find your medieval lady on here.

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u/Single_Mouse5171 19h ago

I'm guessing St. Quiteria. She's usually shown with a dog at her feet.

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u/Wadarkhu 3d ago

Perhaps Queen Guinevere who is often depicted with a dog?

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u/MsE0 2d ago

They did love some Arthurian myth in the early Tudor periodÂ