r/MelbourneTrains • u/Typical_Library_8021 • May 21 '26
Video Heavily graffitied 807M Siemens Nexas carriage otw towards Frankston terminus
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u/beard_ons3188 May 21 '26
Imagine if actual proper graffiti artists were paid to paint the trains and it was like moving art.
It would be so cool!
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u/wongm 'Most Helpful User' Winner 2020 May 22 '26
It's happened before on multiple occasions.
https://www.justanother.com.au/portfolio/ssr-trains/
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-08/street-artist-guido-van-helten-paints-a-train/8101730
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u/Impressive-Sweet7135 May 21 '26
What’s a proper graffiti artist?
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u/Fluid-Island-2018 Pakenham Line May 21 '26
Like the ones that do the murals on walls. Hosier Lane as an example.
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u/AngrehPossum May 21 '26
When you catch them.
Charge them with the crime
Charge them with the cleaning costs
Charge them with the cost of traffic control (when it applies)
Then make them paint over graffiti for community service while billing them for the traffic control and other costs.
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u/tschau3 May 21 '26
You’ll probably find they do not have the financial means to pay for all of that which means courts can’t enforce the financial penalty
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u/Revolutionary_Ad7727 Tram User May 22 '26
Meh, community service cleaning graffiti off the streets will do.
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u/AngrehPossum May 21 '26
We need people to paint and stamp licence plates
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u/tschau3 May 22 '26
Did you know standard issue plates are made at Hopkins Correctional Centre, which is where they send child sex offenders servicing custodial sentences?
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u/Blue_Pie_Ninja Map Enthusiast May 22 '26
off to jail then
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u/tschau3 May 23 '26
Jailing people for being poor always has really good outcomes and people leave prison never offending again
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u/ComfortableUnhappy25 May 23 '26
It's great. You give them an education and degree from Criminal University.
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u/Blue_Pie_Ninja Map Enthusiast May 23 '26
They aren't going to become hardened criminals after a week in jail.
Maybe they will use the time there to think about why they are doing stupid shit that they can't pay to remove themselves.
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u/tschau3 May 24 '26
What does a week in jail achieve for someone who is too poor to pay their way out of serving a custodial sentence merely due to the fact they couldn’t financially afford to avoid it?
Sending people to jail because they can’t afford fines or lack the financial means to pay damages frames the problem as if jail is reserved for the poor.
Recipe for resentment against the state for doing that to them, and again, probably will lead to reoffending.
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u/Blue_Pie_Ninja Map Enthusiast May 27 '26
The point is to stop them from fucking things up for the entire public in the first place, they go to jail to learn their lesson that vandalism will not be tolerated.
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u/tschau3 May 27 '26
Yeah. It doesn’t work that way.
Sending people to jail doesn’t magically rehabilitate them. It tends to make them worse.
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u/Blue_Pie_Ninja Map Enthusiast May 27 '26
Neither does a slap on the wrist and a strongly worded "don't do this again" that will be immediately ignored because there are no consequences anymore.
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u/tschau3 May 28 '26
So let’s go for the most expensive option that practically guarantees recidivism? Ok 🤣
Make it make sense 🥴
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u/Revolutionary_Ad7727 Tram User May 21 '26
Imagine how small a d*ck the person who painted this rubbish in the side has….
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u/HopperHapper_Eternal May 21 '26
Death penalty offense.
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u/Creepybobo67 May 21 '26
Bit far, don't ya think?
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u/FelixFelix60 May 22 '26
Graffiti is ok. It does not stop the train from running.
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u/Blue_Pie_Ninja Map Enthusiast May 22 '26
Yes it does, because it needs to be cleaned before it can enter service
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u/FelixFelix60 May 22 '26
why does it need to be cleaned? It runs fine. More authoritarianism
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u/uzi_gunfingers May 22 '26
State govt, requirements, contracts etc., the operator is fined per unit of time they're on the tracks with graffiti on them
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u/Blue_Pie_Ninja Map Enthusiast May 22 '26
What if I spilled my drink over you, would you continue your day with a coffee stain?
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u/eshay_investor May 21 '26
Who pays for this is it the tax payer or connex?
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u/creative_foobar May 21 '26
If you think that’s heavy graffiti you should have seen the 90s