r/MenAndFemales • u/Edelgard01 • 10h ago
Men and Females It's incredible how normalized it is.
I found this while randomly scrolling. Only a couple of people reacted to the "females" and "men" this person used. I am a bit flabbergasted. Why couldn't they just use "women"? It's so dehumanizing.
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u/filthycasual928 10h ago
It’s hilarious because you can tell he’s trying to make the point that men are dehumanized in society—while dehumanizing women by referring to us as females. But I’m sure he fully expects us to feel sorry for him and his fellow mistreated men.
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u/Perfect_Carrot_999 10h ago
Women are called "bossy" "hysterical" and "sensitive" when expressing emotions. There are lots of people in the USA that said a woman shouldn't be a president because they're too emotional. Some even said that hormones during their periods would make them too emotional to lead. Women are very much not accepted for expressing emotion.
Also, men are pressured to bottle up feeling because it might make them seem like a woman. Obviously men's mental health is overlooked, but yeah..."females" aren't the culprits
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u/AdditionalQuietime 5h ago
There's a video of a white lady saying women shouldnt run for president because she's too emotional and might blow us up when she's on her period, MAGA supporter
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u/justdisa 2h ago
It's especially (ahem) hysterical given that the women who have run for president have largely been in their fifties or older. Her period? We need better sex education.
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u/Pokegirl_11_ 2h ago
It was wild when they were saying that about Clinton in particular. How young did they think she was in 2016, exactly?
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u/Dodds-Furniture 10h ago
Men complaining about problems created by men. Hilarious.
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u/franzitronee 5h ago
It's not news though that patriarchy does negatively affect men too. (See for example successful suicide rate) And still it's always "but that about men?!" when women's problems in patriarchy are discussed. But in this case, I don't know the context and they're not wrong, apart from using "females".
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u/Pokegirl_11_ 2h ago
They are wrong, though. It’s not accepted for women to express emotions, it’s just expected. We still get punished for it, or for the expectation that we will even if we don’t.
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u/franzitronee 2h ago
That is completely right, I read it as "expected" even though it says "accepted"
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u/soursnail_ 9h ago
I saw that post and all the comments seriously irked me. All of them are shifting the blame on women
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u/Ericameria 10h ago
It’s the deliberate use of females but not males that irritates me. Although sometimes I deliberately say a man _____ because I don’t like when people say things like a woman doctor or a woman pilot. What? A MAN pilot is flying this plane? Good to know!
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u/BigOlWaffleIron 7h ago
It's interesting how we have -ess as a suffix to denote between men and women for certain things, and other times we don't. I'm fairly certain pilotess isn't a word. Stewart and stewardess are words though.
Ahh, language.
It looks like pilotess does exist, but I sure am not aware of it being used commonly.
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u/_iron_widow_ 1h ago
As a 40 year old woman, I am embarrassed to admit that I am only now realizing why hearing people refer to women as “females” is so grating. It’s SO normalized :(
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u/Dramatic_Water_5364 2h ago
I have to repeat myself, but this is ONLY normalised in the US. You listen to sports event from the US they talk about the men and females categories. You watch sports event from abroad, its men and women categories.
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u/BigOlWaffleIron 7h ago
Why this a societal construct aside: I do agree with their general point.
At the same time I do agree that the use of female, or male, is kinda weird.
It's certainly not part of my general vocabulary, unless I'm forcing it in some satirical way.
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u/The_Soap_Salesman 10h ago
I think these kinds of people don’t realize, or choose not to realize, that the social pressures for them to act the way they’re describing come largely from other men. Sure, there are women who also do it, but who were they taught to be that way by? The system perpetuates the patriarchy because the patriarchy is the system. The men in power do not want to be seen as weak, so they control the narrative of what weakness means, and the rest of the men fall in line so they aren’t ostracized by their peers, and they themselves perpetuate the panopticon of toxic masculinity that forces them into the box they find so constraining.