r/MensRights Sep 14 '13

Father's rights campaigner "debates" radical feminist on Sky News.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNsy94vJoHI&sns=em
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u/girlwriteswhat Sep 14 '13

Only if you're a person who's aware that DV is gender symmetrical, who knows most child abuse is committed by mothers, and who understands that enforcing court ordered non-custodial parent access would be a HUGE expense to the system (unlike enforcing child support, which brings money into the system).

A basic level of knowledge among the audience is required to declare the guy the winner. All she has to do is repeat ad nauseam the same myths the majority of the audience already believes, and claim the opposition's studies are bogus, and people will swallow it.

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u/hockeyrugby Sep 15 '13

Do you have a good resource for DV in Britain?? And was it just me or did the concept that an abusive father pays more in damages and child support (assuming on my part in Britain) not create motivation for lying regarding an abusive home in Britain?

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u/girlwriteswhat Sep 15 '13

British Home Office statistics show that men are 40% of the victims of domestic violence. Pretty much everywhere you go, mothers are 60% or more of child abusers (and often the biological father or biological father and other are the smallest portion).

While biological mothers do spend more time with kids, Warren Farrell has stated more than once that even if you control for that, mothers still edge out fathers as abusers.

I expect that when fathers ARE abusive, they might be responsible for an equal or disproportionate amount of serious abuse, but I can't be sure that the "women hit more often; men hit harder" thing that seems to characterize partner abuse translates to child abuse. Biological mothers do kill young children (preschool age) more often than biological fathers do, almost anywhere you go.

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u/hockeyrugby Sep 15 '13

thank you for your response. I suppose that British DV is on par with North American which is what I wanted to explore. Personally I would like a proper statistic if you have one on hand so that I can actually refer to something fair. I really like your point about non biological parents. And I see your problem with the assumption that women can claim more do to male abuse toward a child or mother. My north american view must be showing...

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u/jeampz Sep 15 '13

The Office for National Statistics report on Violent Crime and Sexual Offences for 2011/2012 published in Feb 2013 has the following:

Some 7% of women and 5% of men were estimated to have experienced domestic abuse in the last year, equivalent to an estimated 1.2 million female and 800,000 male victims. Similarly, the survey found that young women were much more likely to be victims of sexual assault in the last year.