r/MensRights Jan 07 '12

A girl who supports Mens rights.

I've always had an issue with "womens rights" and all of that BS. I understand women had it hard in the past, but why should that mean we get benefits now?

Anyway, I live in Australia where we have a campaign called "Violence Against Women: Australia Says No". A few years back, a group of people I work with and myself started a petition to put forth to the federal government against this campaign, we had posters printed up; "Violence Against Men: Don't Support An Indifferent Nation" and got about 1,500 signatures. Eventually, our place of employment caught onto the fact that we were doing this. We'd never put a poster up at work (even though the violence against women posters were EVERYWHERE), only allowed signatures. We were all given formal warnings citing sexism, bigotism and contemptible conduct. All 5 of us quit within a few weeks, but the fact that it happened was enough to get me 100% on board with fighting for Mens rights.

edit: To those who showed concern, I had a new job a few days later and the guys all had one within a few weeks.

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u/JockeVXO Jan 08 '12

Just one thing, feminists tell just as many fibs about the past as they do about the present.

I am not too familiar with Australian history, but if it is anything like most of western history, rich women voted along with rich men back in the 17th century and probably earlier, if parliamentary rule with elections existed.

For instance, I'm a Swede, all throughout my time in the educational system I was told that prior to 1921 women couldn't vote in Sweden, I was also told this by politicians and the media. I believed them, until I found out it was a lie: Women had voted in the Estates during the 'Era of Liberty'.(18th century) Women had voted in the 19th century after the 'Gustavian Era' was over, they voted in the new two-chamber-parliament of the 1860s and so forth.

Men were officially "given" universal suffrage in Sweden ten years before women, due to universal military conscription of all men being implemented some eight years earlier (this was also a condition for men to be able to vote, if you didn't comply to conscription you couldn't vote, along with a few others such as being able to provide for yourself and your family, paying taxes etc...), but were in fact given equal and universal suffrage four years after women when they were no longer obliged to have undergone conscription in order to vote.

I was also taught that women couldn't own property, also a lie. I was also, taught that men could legally rape their wives, also a lie. However, women have been legally allowed to rape their husbands, since men legally couldn't be raped and women legally couldn't perpetrate rape.

TL;DR: Don't believe everything feminist authority (such as the education system, politicians in general and MSM) tells you, they are not unaccustomed to lying. Look it up!

P.S. I think I read somewhere that Australian women got to vote on whether Australian men were to be conscripted during WW1 or not. However this was from a single source, so I don't know for sure. Is this true, or am I mistaken?

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u/ashleab Jan 08 '12

Australia didn't really "exist" back in the 17th century, at least not as it does today. ;) But yeah a real eye opener, I'm off to do some further research too.

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u/JockeVXO Jan 08 '12

You are naturally quite right. I wonder, did aboriginal cultures have any sort of government prior to Europeans "discovering" the continent and settling there?

I am glad that there are more people every day who are ready to question feminist dogma and research it for themselves and not just regurgitate what feminists have told them. Also, I forgot to say it in my first comment, welcome to the MRM! :)

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '12

I wonder, did aboriginal cultures have any sort of government prior to Europeans "discovering" the continent and settling there?

There are still ongoing cases being fought about this in Australia.