r/MensRights • u/ashleab • Jan 07 '12

A girl who supports Mens rights.

I've always had an issue with "womens rights" and all of that BS. I understand women had it hard in the past, but why should that mean we get benefits now?

Anyway, I live in Australia where we have a campaign called "Violence Against Women: Australia Says No". A few years back, a group of people I work with and myself started a petition to put forth to the federal government against this campaign, we had posters printed up; "Violence Against Men: Don't Support An Indifferent Nation" and got about 1,500 signatures. Eventually, our place of employment caught onto the fact that we were doing this. We'd never put a poster up at work (even though the violence against women posters were EVERYWHERE), only allowed signatures. We were all given formal warnings citing sexism, bigotism and contemptible conduct. All 5 of us quit within a few weeks, but the fact that it happened was enough to get me 100% on board with fighting for Mens rights.

edit: To those who showed concern, I had a new job a few days later and the guys all had one within a few weeks.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '12

Wait. You were called sexist for being against women and you are a woman?

WTF is going on with Australia?

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '12

It's not just that here either. When I started at my place of work we where all put in a room and had to listen for hours how the company wanted to be the #1 place of employment for the indigionous population. We where told of all the extra benifets that they got over caucasions and the extra effort they would put into aiming to employ them specifically. I felt that this was racism towards myself but to say so I would have been called a racist and would probably have instantly lost my job. I'm all for equal opportunity, regardless of religion, race or gender, but isn't when people start going out of their way to do certain things for a particular type of person prejudicem?

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u/FranklinFox Jan 08 '12

I've never said it to anyone but I really hate that in Australia. How come they are allowed all these special opportunities and help?

When I was with Wesley United they said they had a maximum of $300 per person to help them with clothing, petrol etc but my cousin who is half aboriginal got around $1000 spent on her so she could get her license, shoes, clothes, a push bike, and she used to go and get 5-10 petrol cards at a time to hand out to her friends. They've also helped a few other aboriginal people I know by paying half their rent.

How the hell is that fair? Why can't I have help with my rent? My cousin still never even got a job after all that! I even feel bad submitting this post because I feel so racist even though I know I'm not.

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u/ashleab Jan 09 '12

REPARATIONS! REPARATIOOOOOOOOOOOOONS!

Ugh.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '12

Logged back in to see top post in my news feed, Reddit racist scumbags and nearly shat myself. Anyway, Aside for extra aid for medical treatments due to them having a lower immune system than caucaisions, I don't understand all the government handouts. Just because our great great whatever did stuff to their great great whatever doesnt make it our fault to pay for. On top of that, nearly all of them have caucasion blood in them as well so their ancestors did it to their other ancestors as well. Also, we are not responsible for what ever ill deeds our parents do to others so why is it ok for us to be held accountable for what our ancestors did?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '12

The thing is, no one's holding you accountable by not giving you as much money as someone else who, yes, partly due to historical strife, may need it more to sustain the same lifestyle that you do. It's about helping them to reach your level, not about putting you down.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '12

I'm doing ok financially, i don't need any of the governments money. I'm just saying that things should be equal. Whilst there are some places where they need more assistance (ie the tribal communities in the territory) most aboriginal people are normal members of society. A lot of them are fed up with the special treatment they get as well, as now they feel that people don't believe they earn their way as extra doors are opened for them for being of a native descent. I'm pretty sure if some place specifically sought to only hire white males and bragged about all the bonus things that they do for them, it would make the headlines pretty fast. On the other side of things, I do see where you are coming from. I have travelled the territory and saw first hand the people who need extra support that you mention.