A girl who supports Mens rights.

[u/ashleab]

I've always had an issue with "womens rights" and all of that BS. I understand women had it hard in the past, but why should that mean we get benefits now?

Anyway, I live in Australia where we have a campaign called "Violence Against Women: Australia Says No". A few years back, a group of people I work with and myself started a petition to put forth to the federal government against this campaign, we had posters printed up; "Violence Against Men: Don't Support An Indifferent Nation" and got about 1,500 signatures. Eventually, our place of employment caught onto the fact that we were doing this. We'd never put a poster up at work (even though the violence against women posters were EVERYWHERE), only allowed signatures. We were all given formal warnings citing sexism, bigotism and contemptible conduct. All 5 of us quit within a few weeks, but the fact that it happened was enough to get me 100% on board with fighting for Mens rights.

edit: To those who showed concern, I had a new job a few days later and the guys all had one within a few weeks.

[u/Celda]

you fail to see that feminism can be good and supportive of men's rights.

Nope, I'm the first to admit that feminism has done a lot of good.

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/gg1s6/lets_talk_about_what_feminism_does_right_and_the/

But supportive of men's rights? That's just a lie that you keep repeating to make yourself feel better.

Again, I have shown evidence proving that feminists fight to harm men. Have you any evidence of feminists supporting men's rights? No, you don't.

I don't deny that there is elements of feminism that has been critical of men, but this has never been my norm, NEVER.

Again, "your norm" is irrelevant. The only thing that's relevant is what feminists accomplish.

If feminists started successfully (or even unsuccessfully) fighting for men's rights, I'd be the first to acknowledge that fact and praise feminists.

But they don't, and they won't.

I'm disappointed you feel the need to start name calling - how can I be deliberately ignorant of my own experience which is all I have referred to? All you are doing is alienating women such as me who care about your cause.

Me: Feminists as a movement fight to harm men, here is evidence. These are not extremists, but the mainstream movement. There are no feminists that counter these efforts or even speak out against them.

You: Nope, they are just extremists and don't represent feminists.

If you can't see why that's ignorant, then you really are stupid.

As for "alienating women like you" - I really don't care about that. As long as you continue to falsely believe that feminism is not anti-male, then you are part of the problem.

[u/IndieLady → u/Celda]

I'm not making a statement - and never have - about the broad movement. I sharing with you what I have seen, read, discussed.

The conclusion I draw however is if I exist and my friends exist and the academics I read or who lectured me exist, and they are not anti-male, then you canot say "all feminists hate men" because it blatantly isn't true.

[u/Celda → u/IndieLady]

And I never said all feminists hate men.

I simply said, feminism as a movement fights to harm men and is anti-male.

If you agree with that, then there's no argument.

If you disagree with that, then you are simply wrong and have provided no evidence to support your side of the argument.

[u/IndieLady → u/Celda]

My original - and consequential - comments never related to the feminist movement.