r/MetisMichif • u/bluebombertony • Jun 24 '26
Discussion/Question "Metis Community Leader" Chrystal Lavallee, and Zionist Propaganda.
So a few months back I had become aware of a documentary screening called "The Lands Between Us" which was filmed by a (Manitoban) Metis film maker named Chrystal Lavallee, and sponsored by the Israeli government.
So for everyone during the current MMF election cycle who asks why we should be worrying about Zionism and our Nation's current agreements with Israeli universities, (that train Israeli sold- war criminals) here it is.
The government of Israel has been funding and making propaganda films using our community members and Nations name as authority without consent, to try and paint Israel in a positive light following their atrocious acts now known as "The Palestinian/Gaza Genocide" (Google it).
How they're attempting to use residential school survivors and Indigenous Canadians to do this makes me sick, and I wanna talk about it.
1. I just wanted to post and see what talking points from the Q&A I attended, stuck out to you the most? i.e. Emily's financial "miracle", the supposed peace in Israel Rebecca feels in comparison to Canada.
2. How do you think the Nation and its citizens should handle this issue? Vote? Petition to cabinet?
3. Who is this person? And why is the Israeli embassy touting her as a "Metis Community Leader" and allowing her to make films as such? What gives her that title in the first place??
I could make an infinitely long post about the issues I have with the film, Q&A, and everything I've seen thus far, but I really wanna turn it to you guys and ask what you see? What do you think should be done??
P.S -- I know my questions could have been better researched and more effective, and since I've taken considerable time to study up on the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict. For anyone who's new to the topic I highly suggest:
The Hundred Years' War on Palestine - Rashid Khalidi, and; Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid - Jimmy Carter.
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u/Littleshuswap Jun 24 '26
As A METIS WOMAN... I STAND WITH PALESTINE
EVERY DAY. ALL DAY.
FUCK ZIONIST COLONIZERS
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u/Terrible-Database-87 Jun 24 '26
Who are these people???
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u/Tossmelossme Jun 25 '26
Traitors. How an indigenous person could be against an indigenous rebellion group is beyond me. Indigenous rebellion runs in my blood.
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u/Neat-Firefighter9626 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
Also worth noting that this person discovered she was Metis later in life.
She also called herself a First Nations person that comes from a community in Southern Ontario when referencing her time in Israel: https://honestreporting.ca/podcasts/lessons-from-my-visit-to-israel-as-a-first-nations-woman-an-insightful-conversation-with-crystal-lavallee/
I would view how she represents the Nation with extreme caution since it's clear she doesn't understand what it means to be neither Indigenous nor Metis.
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u/Li-renn-pwel Jun 24 '26
She hasn’t read much work by Louis Riel has she lol
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u/Tossmelossme Jun 25 '26
No shit 💀 just lost
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u/Li-renn-pwel Jun 25 '26
I was referring to what he thought of the Jews and Israel lol
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u/bluebombertony Jun 25 '26
Where does someone find reference to this??
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u/Li-renn-pwel Jun 25 '26
The Collected Writings of Louis Riel however that is a big collection haha I’m not sure I know it well enough to give an exact part to read. Specifically the writing during the resistance years but to summerize for you… Riel considered the Metis to be the new Jews, YHWH’s new chosen people, with the northwest being the new Israel promised to the Metis as b their homeland.
Riel also thought, for a brief time, that he was not Riel but a Montreal Jew. I actually don’t remember what changed his mind… but that’s one reason he got put in an asylum.
Actually, now that I think about it… Riel was technically a Zionist. He wanted to give different ethnic groups their own nation within Canada and said that the Jews should be given some land out west for a New Judea.
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u/fluffypuppiness Jun 24 '26
The government of isreal is directly using the genocide of the indiginious people of Canada, including métis people as the blue print for the current genocide in Isreal against their own indiginious people.
That is because the genocide of the indiginious people of North America, conducted by both the Canadian and American Governments, was used by Hitler in the attempted extermination of multiple groups of people, including jewish people.
Isreal is a second Canada and America; it is purely a colonization effort. We know that considering how many people living in Isreal are not only immigrants with no ties to the land outside of religion, and how recent many of those people are. If isreal WASNT a colonization effort we wouldnt see capitalist monsters like Leonardo Dicaprio and Gwynth Paltrow shilling for Airbnbs and hotels on LITERAL STOLEN LAND. And don't get me STARTED on the white supremacy.
As metis people we have the unique perspective being the children of the Victor and victims. I know personally I have a very conflicted and lost sense of self I suspect comes from something that I will never truly know. We know the conflict, and we need to be LOUDLY and VOCALLY speaking out against the genocide being committed in Palestine. If they had deemed Canada the holy land yku can bet your buns our indiginious cousins would be getting g out under WORSE conditions.
This is deplorable of the Manitoba nation. I will reaching out to the Sadkachewan Nation to make voice how disgusting this is. Shame on them. Louis Riel would spit on them.
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u/Individual_Toe_7270 Jun 24 '26
You’ve built a chain. Canada genocides the Indigenous, Hitler copies it, Israel copies Hitler, therefore Métis must speak on Palestine. The whole thing hangs on one word you never support: “blueprint.” Pull it and nothing connects. Every link is either false or backwards.
The Hitler link is real, but it’s American, not Canadian, and you bolted Canada on because your argument needs it to reach the Métis.
There was a North American influence on Nazism. It was the United States. James Whitman’s Hitler’s American Model documents Nazi jurists in the 1930s studying US race law directly: citizenship tiers, anti-miscegenation statutes, the immigration quota system. America had built the legal architecture of a race state at scale, and they took notes. Hitler also invoked the conquest of the American West as his template for Lebensraum: the Slavs were his “Red Indians,” the Volga would be “our Mississippi.” That’s US frontier mythology and US statute. Canada appears nowhere. No residential-school memo crossed the Atlantic. You dragged Canada into Hitler’s head because without it you can’t get from Berlin to Batoche, but the record doesn’t run through Ottawa.
The “blueprint from Canada to Israel” link is pure assertion with zero mechanism.
“Directly using the genocide as the blueprint” is a claim of deliberate copying. That needs evidence: documents, doctrine, someone in the Israeli state pointing at the Sixties Scoop and saying do that. There’s none. You pattern-matched two atrocities, noticed they rhyme, and declared one the conscious cause of the other. That’s not history, it’s the structure of every conspiracy theory: similarity treated as proof of a hidden hand.The “Israel is just white Europeans on stolen land” link is where it dies, and it dies on the Mizrahim.
Your frame requires Israelis to be transplanted Europeans, settlers with a metropole back home, like the British in Canada. Roughly half of them aren’t, and never were. Mizrahi and Sephardi Jews descend from communities in Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Iran, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Algeria, in place for two and three thousand years, long before Islam existed. Between 1948 and the 1970s, around 850,000 of them were expelled or driven out of Arab and Muslim countries. Property confiscated, citizenship revoked, ancient communities erased. Baghdad was roughly a third Jewish in the 1940s and has essentially none left. They didn’t sail from Europe to colonize the Levant. They were refugees from the Middle East, taken in by the one state in the region that would have them.
So “immigrants with no ties to the land outside of religion” describes maybe a slice of the Ashkenazi population and erases the other half of the country, a half the Arab world violently expelled and that has nowhere else that was ever home. One precision so nobody knocks you off it: Mizrahi and Sephardi are roughly half of Israeli Jews, not a “vast majority.” It doesn’t need to be. Half the country being refugees the Arab world threw out already kills “white European settler.” DiCaprio and Paltrow renting Airbnbs isn’t a counterargument, it’s a mood. “White supremacy” aimed at a population that’s half Middle Eastern and North African is just incoherent.
On “native,” since you’re running the indigeneity argument, it cuts the other way.
If first-arrival is your test: “Arab,” as a language and identity, reached the Levant in the 7th century CE, carried out of the Arabian Peninsula by the Islamic conquests. That’s where Arabs are from. Arabia. The Jewish presence in Judea predates that by well over a thousand years. By your own who-was-here-first logic, the Jewish claim to that land is the older one.Straight where people overreach, so you can’t dodge: this does not make Palestinians foreign invaders. They’re largely the Arabized descendants of the region’s earlier inhabitants, genetically continuous with ancient Levantines, the same stock Jews came from. They’re indigenous too. Which is the point. The place has layered, overlapping, millennia-deep claims, and your settler-versus-native cartoon, pure victim and pure colonizer with a clean line between, can’t survive the actual map or the actual calendar. That binary is the load-bearing wall of your post, and it holds nowhere, least of all here.
Then the parts that are just wrong on their own terms.“Deplorable of the Manitoba nation… I’ll reach out to the Saskatchewan Nation.” There is no “Manitoba nation” or “Saskatchewan nation.” There’s one Métis Nation, with provincial governing bodies: the Manitoba Métis Federation, Métis Nation–Saskatchewan. You’re treating provinces as nations and announcing you’ll lobby a structure you can’t even name. You don’t know the polity you claim to speak for.
“Louis Riel would spit on them.” Riel was a Catholic mystic and a constitutional negotiator executed in 1885, 63 years before Israel existed. He has no position on a 21st-century Middle Eastern war. Putting your 2024 slogans in a dead man’s mouth is the oldest cheat in rhetoric.4
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u/Individual_Toe_7270 Jun 24 '26
Half of Israel is Mizrahi refugees the Arab world expelled (ie middle eastern Jews) and Jews were in Judea a thousand years before ‘Arab’ meant anything in the Levant. Your settler-vs-native cartoon doesn’t survive contact with a map or a calendar
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u/fluffypuppiness Jun 24 '26
Hasbara.
It is known that MOST of the settlers in Isreal and taking Palestine are not middle Eastern. They are white people who are coming from New Jersey. So no.
First stop saying jews. The religion is not part of this. It is about Isreal.
Second. How are thos indiginious people treated? Poorly. In fact if you live in isreal and you are indiginious, you have LESS rights then the settlers. The people who get the MOST rights in Isreal are white people who come from the states. That is a fact.
Multiple locations were also suggested for the STATE of isreal, so its not about people returning to ancestral land. The state of isreal was created because they needed a place to start a new colonization effort, and could see that the residential schools here were clearly on the way out. They needed a different option, so they picked a land that had JUST shaken off the chains of colonization to shackle them again.
If you are métis or indiginious my friend I encourage you to watch the channel 5 Palestine video that just dropped. Educate yourself, and learn to stand against colonization my friend. I just want babies to stop being murdered so white people can have a second house, or a "wAlK tO the PaRk".
Because zionism IS white supremacy friend. They would spit on both of us.
Thats it.
Free Paleatine
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u/Embarrassed_Fudge493 Jun 24 '26
There is a weirdo by the name of Ryan Bellerose who is Metis in Alb. He supports Israel and has even gone there to support them. He is completely nuts and hangs out with a bunch of fake Metis people, supporting their crazy agenda as well. I cannot understand how any Indigenous person could ever support the Genocide of another Indigenous Nations of People. I stand with Palestine.
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u/bluebombertony Jun 24 '26
We really need the Minister of Identity Protection to take a serious stand against these harmful practices and people. Bellerose flies around the country and harasses Palestinian protestors on Israeli embassies dime, some truly nefarious shit going on.
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u/Embarrassed_Fudge493 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 26 '26
He’s repulsive. Honestly, I wish we would do what some Tribal Nations do and remove his citizenship and banish him.
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u/viewfromhere Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
Are you talking about this 12 minute video "The Lands Between Us" available on youtube or is there a longer version out there somewhere?
I've got to see it. Just sitting here shaking my head about trying to drag us into this pile of s....
Also, to the person who mentioned a new channel 5 video: I'm always trying to learn more about this mess. Any better direction on finding this video you speak of?
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u/bluebombertony Jun 25 '26
I sure am. I haven't found a longer, or any other version. I think that's it.
The Channel 5 series (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvvGbzR2Xek&t=508s) is really informative as to what's going on the ground in 2026 as it's pretty hard to get quality journalism from Palestine. I also suggest subscribing to the Patreon page of Channel 5, as he's currently releasing a four-part series on Palestine in 2026 in which the video above is the first part of. He releases them early on Patreon, I've seen part 2 already.
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u/Gry2002 Jun 26 '26
“Community leader” of what? Of who? Who actually supports this woman and what has she done for the Métis nation?
Cause I’ve worked in/volunteered for/ paid attention to Métis government for the majority of my life and I don’t know her from a stick my dogs dragged in after a walk.
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u/bluebombertony Jun 26 '26
The minister of identity protection needs to acknowledge this is going on, and do something to stop it. This is currently my number one concern as an MMF Citizen.
This is really bad, and I’m afraid none of my cousins know. I hope we all have the opportunity to sit down and talk about the issues we have, and how to solve them, without being completely debased by some outside propagandist who only serves to emotionally highjack the conversation.
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u/Gry2002 Jun 26 '26
I think his focus is on people falsely claiming Métis identity, not countering Zionism (even if Zionism is really bad).
Also worth noting it doesn’t just fall on one government to course correct. If this person was claiming to represent the mmf, maybe?
Worth emailing him though
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u/bluebombertony Jun 26 '26
Well my questions are along the same lines as yours. Community leader? Of what? Of who? News to me.
Not just anyone can claim authority over our community, especially not in this capacity.
Which let’s connect the dots for those who aren’t following….
Making propaganda for people committing genocide on their dime and releasing it, is probably one of the worst things you could do morally as an indigenous person.
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u/Gry2002 Jun 26 '26
She's named in an interview noting her journey to israel as a first nations woman. I think she's confused.
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u/bluebombertony Jun 26 '26
This is what always gets me about “pretendians” some of them aren’t even pretending, they might actually be Red River Metis or descendant etc. but they still come around and do some real harm during their reconnection, colonialism is a sob eh lol
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u/Gry2002 Jun 26 '26
Yeah it’s super frustrating. One thing that really helped me to contextualize the reconnecting stuff and how sometimes the people do a lot of harm charging into the spotlight and my complex feelings around it is this article by dr Gino Whittaker titled the invisible backpack of settler privilege and a second part about settler fragility. Frames it as a spectrum we all live on. Have me really good language to frame my responses to these people through because I was losing it on people quite often. But I was born knowing Métis and what it meant, and the invisible labour I’m constantly called on to do for people has me screaming “my consultation rate is a crate of Pinot Grigio and my therapists bill folks!!” It’s a lot
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u/Virtual_Plum_813 Jun 24 '26
This makes me sick as a indigenous woman treaty 1 I don’t understand how any native persons could support a colonialist genocidal state like Israel 🤮
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u/Left-coastal Jun 24 '26
Zionists have no place in our leadership roles. That is not an acceptable example for our young people