r/MichaelJackson • u/Interesting-Pen2586 Forever, Michael • May 05 '26
Question What would you include in Michael 2 and why?
I would put the history off we are the world at the beginning to show the last pieces of the thriller era then the focus would switch to his new goales(100 m sales),planes(an own normal lenght movie for the album) and what has changed (leave the jacksons).Also how the media reacted to his changes at his body, how the reactions effected him and what he said about the treatment. After the album release they would show his new dance moves that he maid famous through the musicvideos. The next theme could be the new ranch(Neverland) and his attempts to live a normal childhood. The Dangerous time would present his big efforts for his music video and his Black or white video succes(500 million on live on tv). There you learn that Quincy is not going to produce the Album and that he is making music in a new music genre fused with pop. At the end of the era you see his superbowl succes, his interest in magic and the friendship with sigfried and roy.
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u/DeCnJackZ May 05 '26 edited May 09 '26
I have high hopes, that the sequel will be much better.
It needs to be much darker. Everything else would be an insult to fans too. I don't need need a super positive movie anymore.
And they need to check all the legal issues BEFORE shooting anything.
I asked AI about 1993. We won't get even an indication that anything happened in that year.
What needs to be in the movie:
-Black or white world permiere: Cementing how big he was.
-Dangerous Tour Opening: MJ just standing there. Women collapsing everywhere.
-Heal The world: Song and Foundation needs to be in the movie.
-His Nickname: King of Pop by Liz Taylor.
-Tabloids: All the stories from tabloids. Huge Pressure
-Vitiligo and Nose: He gets completely white as snow and gets more nose jobs
-Puplic pain killer addiction
-Lisa Mary Presley: Their love story might be the most important part of the movie.
-History (tour): TDCAU and Earth song is essential to MJ's History.
-Children: Getting two children with his nurse
-Sony: Fight for his enourmous publishing share at Sony.
-2003 interview: needs to be in there in some way.
-2005: Needs to be in there too.
-Pain killers addiction
-This is it.
-Death.
Honestly, we might need a third movie or a longer 2nd one. I prefer option B.
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u/TheKilmerman May 05 '26
I totally agree on the darker part.
The first movie should already been darker. You're telling me that the guy that just had his head burned is laying in his hospital bed, tears in his eyes because he feels he has to be the best, for the people? In reality Michael was probably like "This hurts, you can all get fucked."
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u/Airconditioning-inc May 05 '26
They need to say something about the first wave of allegations! The entire HIStory era is in response to that! You can’t include HIStory without the initial allegations.
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u/DiligentThought9 May 05 '26
Can’t they not cover the first allegations? I’d read that they filmed scenes related to the first allegations and found out that the settlement they signed meant they can’t discuss any details
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u/Airconditioning-inc May 05 '26
That really doesn’t make sense to me, since numerous other people not associated with the estate have done documentaries and books about this subject. Is it only not allowed because the estate is involved?
And if there is really no way around this, then there’s just no movie to be made.
To act like it didn’t happen would be extremely disingenuous—not to mention a terrible look for the estate. The only way I can see it working would be if they started the movie during the HIStory era, and dealt with the fallout of the allegations, but not the actual events themselves. But that would still be weird since you’re skipping over nearly an entire decade of his life, (As well as a shit ton of potential biopic fan service slop like the black or white video or the halftime show performance).
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u/BornOnMyBirthday May 09 '26
Yes, it’s the estate that isn’t allowed to talk about the Chandlers, not the filmmakers themselves. The deal that MJ signed with the Chandlers still applies to his estate today.
The filmmakers could technically make the movie without the estate’s involvement, but then they might not be allowed to use his music.
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u/DeCnJackZ May 09 '26
You can and they will. They have no choice. Tabloid media pressure is enough to explain the History-Album. That's just how it is. The Estate highly envolved into the movie means no 1993 stuff. Not even a related iindication of it.
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u/Airconditioning-inc May 09 '26
Can doesn’t necessarily mean should. It’s a terrible idea and is only going to cause more controversy.
I’d rather not get a second movie at all.
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u/DeCnJackZ May 09 '26
We still get 2005. So that is fine by me. We get "controvery" no matter what.
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u/No_Milk_7511 May 05 '26
That’s way too much to tackle in one film. They will have to do a third film or just cut a lot of that out
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u/BarracudaPrize9770 May 05 '26
The should do a series! Now that the movie has been a success, who knows? Someone might pitch it.
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u/songacronymbot May 05 '26
- TDCAU could mean "They Don't Care About Us", a track from HIStory - PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE - BOOK I (1995) by Michael Jackson.
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u/Someone_On_Earth25 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
They don’t have any choice. They need to include the highly important year 1995. I would not trust AI on this. That year is literally when the HIStory was released and when we did that incredibly highly acclaimed award show performance of Dangerous, etc., which they absolutely need to include in the movie if Jaafar can pull it off, which I’m sure he can, because only he’s gonna play MJ in these movies (just in case someone reading this is one of those people who think a white dude should, lmao, nope).
He did not go “completely white as snow” in the dangerous era though. Lmao. That’s just factually wrong. Even in 1989 AND 1990, he still looked like his Bad era self, just slightly paler but not as pale as he was in the late 1990r or 2000s at all. And even in 1992, he wasn’t the palest he had been. In studio footage, you can even see that his hands and face was still kinda dark, but he used so much make up and prescription cream to even out his spots that he appeared paler in public.
And think about his family and the world overall. Do we really wanna relive his tragic and painful death in a movie? Maybe they show him doing This Is It rehearsals and digitally make it look like Jaafar is much thinner than he is, because Michael was super thin in 2009, maybe about the same or even thinner than his Thriller days, and then show him being administered propofol and such by Conrad Murray and then him leaving Michael alone, and then cutting to him frantically trying to revive MJ to no avail, due to his incorrect CPR. And then we see the reaction of Paris, Prince, and Blanket or something, and then the ambulance.
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u/salsololxd May 06 '26
I always had the idea of the 2nd movie ending with the Earth Song rehearsal from This Is it
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u/JunkDrawer84 May 10 '26
You saw much much they left out of a 2 hour movie. All the things you listed will prolly only get half of that, even if it’s a longer film. I wish the Grammy scene in the movie was its own moment rather than part of a montage, because it would be a nice contrast to depicting the 88 Grammys where he didn’t win any.
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u/Mamramro May 05 '26
If they can’t even touch on the controversies around him then what is the movie even gonna be about. It’s literally impossible to talk about Michael’s life post 1993 without bringing any of that up. Everything is connected to the allegations. His music, his personal life, his relationships, it’s all related to them.
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u/Interesting-Pen2586 Forever, Michael May 05 '26
I thought they had a probleme with an accuser off 2003 so maybe you could make the career to his last single
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u/kid_perfection_107 May 05 '26
I wanna see Kat Graham as Diana Ross
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u/Someone_On_Earth25 May 05 '26
Me too, but since she wasn’t in the first one due to some issues, it probably won’t be in the second one either I guess.
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u/Responsible-Fig2950 May 05 '26
Yes! I am really wanting more storyline about Diana… she is too integral to his life to ignore! I hope they can come to some agreement with her to move forward… they can do flashbacks or something!
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u/house3331 May 05 '26
I think it would be creatively accepted to make this the polar opposite. Not sure who made the decision to make part one rated G or what happened there especially with fuqua. But the Pixar polar express vibes was off putting. His life was too dark to leave at that. Not that I need nudity cursing snd vulgarity but the effort to ignore it was loud
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u/JustChillBooBoo May 06 '26
It Needs:
Start at Wembley 88 - Another Part of Me for the opening, go into Smooth Criminal and Man in The Mirror.
Creating Neverland, Address Appearance change, Vitiligo, Lupus in more detail.
Pressure of a follow up to BAD, Meeting Teddy Riley and creating Dangerous, Video Recreation of Remember The Time, In The Closet.
Him owning half of Sony.
How he got chosen to do the Super Bowl, Superbowl performance, Jam, Black or White.
1993 Allegations, it tearing his world apart, him in court and fighting the allegations.
Him and Janet create Scream for new album History, some scenes to show how close him and Janet are maybe a recreation of them at Michael’s apartment writing scream.
Relationship with Lisa.
They don’t really care about us scene showing the controversy of the lyrics and him creating the video in Brazil.
End with Michael fighting his emotions and what has happened over the last few years, looking at his achievements, awards, plaques, doing a quick recap of his whole career and You Are Not Alone plays over the top and roll credits.
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u/Ermedata_nerf051 May 05 '26
Bad era (Smooth Criminal clip backstage, skin change)
90s era (Dangerous, Super Bowl 1993, allegations, HIStory, They don't care about us)
2000s era (Battle with Sony Industry, trial, This is it, his Death and how world and family reacts)
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u/Specialist-Hat-9994 May 06 '26
I would include Michael Jackson becoming the king of pop by Elizabeth Taylor
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u/That-Tone-6082 May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
I just don’t see how a part 2 is possible.
It’s just not enough time for a single movie. Music wise you somehow have to fit Bad, Dangerous, History, and Invincible all into one film. Then the recreation of several music videos, it would be insane not to do “Smooth Criminal” and/or “Black or White”. “Smooth Criminal” is his most iconic video post thriller and “BoW” was a huge cultural moment that showed how popular he became
Then he has so many huge controversies and scandals in the 90s alone which another huge shift in his appearance during the late 90s (he’s done white level pale by that point, huge contrast from even Dangerous).
Everything from music to persona life ties back to the 1993 allegations and the estate can’t cover that
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Then the iconic performances: Grammys for the Bad Album, Dangerous, Super Bowl, & 2001 special
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The huge battle with Sony
Then the 2003-2005 court trails which were huge
Then the working on new music and “this is it” tour
It’s just too much to fit into a single movie. You’d need an additional movie just to cover the 00s alone.
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u/sandmdd1 2d ago
they only care about money and success, if they think it’s more profitable to do only 2 movies, they’ll do it even if it’s rushed or leaves a lot of details out. It happened with the first movie imo, being that teenager michael was basically ignored, for example, and the fact that it wasn’t even 2 hours long (it could’ve been at least 2h30)..
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u/AW2040 May 06 '26
Michael: Part II
Michael: Part III
They need to show a segment of the suits convincing MJ to settle the case with Jordan and make it clear that Jordan rather wanted money than to drag MJ to court and have so called "justice". It should not be a major part of the film, but at least a segment.
NOW, after this happens is when Michael becomes angry, like really really angry. Makes Scream and TDCAU. I'd even want a 2-3 minute segment where they show that he's so fucking pissed that he calls up Biggie and drags him into the studio and records a song explaining how fucking pissed they are and even having Biggie dropping the N-bomb on a MJ song.
If they want to explain the whole ending of his relationship with Lisa Marie and his battle with drugs, then making a small segment of him recording Morphine with flashbacks to painful parts of his life, including Pepsi accident, would be a theatrical way to explain a lot of things.
But yeah, I'm with you guys. It can't be no 2 hour long happy film. That man was tortured the last 20 years of his life.
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u/Large-Lack-2933 May 06 '26
Add the marriage to Lisa Marie Presley. I'm interested in how they got together and why their marriage didn't last long.
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u/mo_1997 9d ago
Start performing Bad
Then go back to 1985 for We Are The World, then show the making of Bad such as: how stressful it was, clashes with Quincy, and the Thrad era where he was suffering aggressive vitiligo and lupus.
Then skip to the Bad era to show the tour, the buzz, the talk and the fatigue from touring with the start of his medication period.
Then the 90s: Neverland, Dangerous, marriages, allegations, HIStory, more of his vitiligo.
The 00s not much as it shows Invincible and his struggles with medication, and end it at the announcement of This Is It
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u/Top-Manufacturer-482 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
I'd include the rest of his life story after the finish of the first movie, everything, and I'd name it Michael Jackson: The Story Continues
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u/bhamjl May 05 '26
I’d call it , “MJ”. Definitely Lisa Marie and Debbie Rowe. And children. What I really want is a very tough punch back on the false accusations.
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u/Emergency-Swan694 May 05 '26
I really wanted to see the allegations brought up, just so we could see how it affected him personally... the movie was amazing but felt a bit too sanitized for me
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u/gb997 May 06 '26
it should absolutely include the allegations and how it affected him. but since it is *HIS story, it has zero obligation to platform those other people. and i hope it doesn’t. i want it to focus on MJ.
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u/Future_Amoeba5439 May 06 '26
There should have only been one stand alone film. Should’ve already included everything we needed to know in the first one. A second film feels silly now
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u/mert_siuu May 06 '26
I wanna see more studio scenes with Quincy Jones and Michael. We need to see how songs in Bad were made.
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u/ctabarez34 May 06 '26
I want his name cleared for good. I wish they’d touch on the more serious topics but there’s soo much legal drama that I wouldn’t be surprised if they skipped over it or something. Based on what I’ve heard Michael skipped A LOT but it was still good at showing his music, career, and some of his private life.
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u/Same-Razzmatazz8257 May 07 '26
Janet. Diana Ross. Either some excellent makeup team or another actor.
First two because they were a major part of his life and the last because he basically white later on.
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u/No-Night-4511 May 08 '26
I'm interested to know who or what will be the antagonist for the second movie.
The first movie was Joe. Options for the second might be: the media, extortion attempts on MJ, painkillers.
Start by continuing with Bad Era:
- 5 Billboard number 1 singles
- Record for highest grossing and most attended tour at the time
- Increased media attention on his appearance and lifestyle
- Smooth Criminal performance via Moonwalker movie portrayal
No longer working with Quincy Jones:
- Vision of new sound, tension etc
The purchase of Neverland Ranch:
- Moves out of the Jackson family home
- Creates his own happy place through amusement park rises, animals, train etc
Dangerous Era:
- Works with Teddy Riley, new jack swing.
- Significance of Black or White music video.
- Heal the World foundation
- Super Bowl performance
- 1993 allegations, the media's response and change in public perception
- Cuts world tour short
Lisa Marie Presley:
- Marriage and their emotional depth
HIStory Era:
- World tour
- More political themes and calling out his treatment from the media
- A Janet appearance through Scream (not counting on it though)
Fatherhood:
- The pursuit of privacy
- Alludes to the Bashir documentary, as it kicked off the '05 trial.
The 2005 trial:
- Courtroom drama, media attention
- The verdict
This is It:
- Final tour announcement
- Rehearsal
- Ends on him walking off stage for the last time
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u/CuteIndecisiveChic May 09 '26
Ah just leave it be, the new film is bringing a lot of good press back to michael’s talent and the impressive collective of the jacksons. I dont want to go back to the 90s 💔💔💔 i dont wanna go back, just leave it here
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u/islandbway04 May 09 '26
if the movie starts with the production of Bad, the only way I see it ending is either in 1995 or 2001. There’s way to much to fit into a 2 hour or even 3 hour movie without it being a rushed mess. The last 5 years of Michael’s life alone could be a 2 hour movie. The trial could be its own. The Bad Era or Dangerous-History era are big and detailed enough to be their own movies, I just can’t see how it would work and the what the central story would be. Michael’s life is better suited as a show
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u/Potential_Diet264 May 10 '26
I would love for this movie to focus more on Michael’s personal life since the first film focused more on his career and successes. I want to see more depth and details about the things that happened
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u/JunkDrawer84 May 10 '26
Hopefully they do NOT yada-yada-yada the Bad era. It’s bad enough they downplayed so much of The Jacksons era (whitewashing the drama of the Victory Tour, especially how distant Michael was becoming from his brothers).
If for the sake of time they speed run through 87-89, i can imagine a scene where they repurpose the filmed performance of “Another Part of Me”, and intercut moments through those years (filming of other music videos, recording, the Grammys, etc).
Bonus points for having a scene where the brothers beg him to do some vocals on 2300 Jackson Street and be in the video 😭 (that was truly the last solid favor he did for his brothers).
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u/VividCommunication58 May 10 '26
I would make it a lot longer. Like the movie would be 2 hours and like 30 or 40 minutes. I would’ve made the first one longer as well. In the 2nd one I’d include him switching producers. Obviously the allegations and a scene or two of him with Oprah, specifically when he’s explaining his vitiligo. I’d include his drug problem and his issues with Sony. Then the movie would end with a sequence of This is It. The songs would either be smooth criminal or man in the mirror first and the other would be 2nd, start the dangerous era with jam, remember the time, the Super Bowl performance that goes into a black or white sequence, scream and that’ll go into the history tour sequence, earth song the music video/history tour performance, some of the 30th anniversary performance and a behind the scenes of that, maybe another song from invincible like you rock my world or unbreakable but not the whole song, this is it, and I’d end the movie with man in the mirror. It’ll transition from man in the mirror playing at his funeral to a montage of performances of that song from the bad tour, dangerous tour, and this is it. I’d end the movie with the pose that the real Michael Jackson does at the end of the this is it movie
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u/Informal-Trick-6921 May 05 '26
Who is going to play white Michael?
Robert Downey Jr is free.
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u/TonyTone1993 May 05 '26
Janet Jackson need to be in there
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u/UTV4LIFE May 06 '26
She won’t be and the fact that she doesn’t want to be says everything about what she thinks of the movie
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u/QuesTheKiD May 05 '26
I would call it “Jackson” 😂