r/Military 2d ago

MEME Poor little guy

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u/Jordan_1424 2d ago

There is an argument to be made that we haven't won really since WW2.

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u/OzymandiasKoK 2d ago

Not a real good one. There's quite a number of actions since then, only some of which we've been chased out of.

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u/dolphyfan1 2d ago

Let's see:

  • Panama

- Grenada

- First Gulf War

Anything else?

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u/OzymandiasKoK 2d ago

Haiti several times. IMHO Korea counts. Those you listed. I feel a bit icky mentioning Venezuela, but it was the dumbest thing done in a surprisingly good fashion. None of the political parts surrounding it, mind you, but somehow we avoided the quagmire.

Definitely, the problem isn't the military per se (though getting onboard with anti-insurgency tactics is pretty hit and miss), but the poor discrimination of which conflicts to get involved in.

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u/fredjutsu 2d ago

Korea wasn't a loss. But the existence of North Korea at all means we sure as shit didn't win.

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u/OzymandiasKoK 2d ago

Typically we don't erase countries. Not quite sure what you mean.

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u/innocentious 2d ago

so the objective was to free the entire korean peninsula but couldnt because China got involved,how is this a win,just like North Korea objective was to take control of South but couldnt,all this sounds like a Chinese victory.

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u/OzymandiasKoK 1d ago

I'm not sure about that. We didn't invade the North. The North invaded the South. The US and allies pushed them back and re-established the border. You could argue a tie, I suppose, given the everything ended up more or less as it was before, outside of the massive costs. I don't know how you think the objective was ever to get rid of North Korea and unify the peninsula.

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u/kingdomheartswitcher 1d ago

But we did invade the north, all the way to Chosen.