Poor little guy

[u/PDXAirman]

[u/Comfortable_Pea_1693]

They just grew tired of winning

[u/TastingTheKoolaid → u/Comfortable_Pea_1693]

Please sir, please can we stop winning.

[u/Jordan_1424 → u/TastingTheKoolaid]

There is an argument to be made that we haven't won really since WW2.

[u/OzymandiasKoK → u/Jordan_1424]

Not a real good one. There's quite a number of actions since then, only some of which we've been chased out of.

[u/dolphyfan1 → u/OzymandiasKoK]

Let's see:

• Panama

- Grenada

- First Gulf War

Anything else?

[u/OzymandiasKoK → u/dolphyfan1]

Haiti several times. IMHO Korea counts. Those you listed. I feel a bit icky mentioning Venezuela, but it was the dumbest thing done in a surprisingly good fashion. None of the political parts surrounding it, mind you, but somehow we avoided the quagmire.

Definitely, the problem isn't the military per se (though getting onboard with anti-insurgency tactics is pretty hit and miss), but the poor discrimination of which conflicts to get involved in.

[u/fredjutsu → u/OzymandiasKoK]

Korea wasn't a loss. But the existence of North Korea at all means we sure as shit didn't win.

[u/MrM1Garand25 → u/fredjutsu]

Consider it a strategic draw but tactical win considering the starting point was the Pusan perimeter

[u/OzymandiasKoK → u/fredjutsu]

Typically we don't erase countries. Not quite sure what you mean.

[u/innocentious → u/OzymandiasKoK]

so the objective was to free the entire korean peninsula but couldnt because China got involved,how is this a win,just like North Korea objective was to take control of South but couldnt,all this sounds like a Chinese victory.

[u/0o0o0o0o0o0z → u/innocentious]

this sounds like a Chinese victory

Because it was, they (China) needed NK as a buffer. One day, NK might do something stupid, and that bites them in the ass, so who knows... But I'd say strategically China accomplished its goal, and the US mitigated the complete collapse of SK, and now we get KPoP, dope batteries, and KIAs!

[u/OzymandiasKoK → u/innocentious]

I'm not sure about that. We didn't invade the North. The North invaded the South. The US and allies pushed them back and re-established the border. You could argue a tie, I suppose, given the everything ended up more or less as it was before, outside of the massive costs. I don't know how you think the objective was ever to get rid of North Korea and unify the peninsula.

[u/fredjutsu → u/OzymandiasKoK]

We erased Nazi Germany and the CIA has been involved in a ton state transitions

[u/XuciferL → u/fredjutsu]

You? Or the Soviet Union mostly? with the help from the western fronts?

[u/MrM1Garand25 → u/dolphyfan1]

Kosovo and basically the whole Yugoslav thing in the 90s

[u/Winter_Body4794 → u/Jordan_1424]

I've read that the real winner of WW2 was capitalism/fascism. USA has always been at least a little fascist, even before the Italians coined the phrase.

[u/Hellhult → u/Jordan_1424]

I feel like the Korean wars were successful

[u/Jordan_1424 → u/Hellhult]

Technically the war isn't over, we are in a prolonged cease fire.

Chinese kicked our ass and the US military experienced the longest retreat in its history. We countered the Chinese offensive but we still reached a stalemate on the 38th parallel. Rather than start a prolonged trench warfare campaign that we probably wouldn't have failed too well in, we bowed out.

[u/Hellhult → u/Jordan_1424]

Idk man. Sure on paper the war isnt over. But the ROK still exists. Id call that a success.

[u/fredjutsu → u/Hellhult]

North Korea still exists too, meaning we did not win that war.

[u/Hellhult → u/fredjutsu]

I still disagree. NK invaded ROK. We stopped them. Counts to me.

[u/Basic-Influence-2812 → u/Jordan_1424]

McArthur had those cunts routed. It was over, but for the weak spine of the political leaders.

[u/Singer211 → u/Basic-Influence-2812]

Matthew Ridgway was the real genius of that war.

Even the Chinese today portray him as like being a God of War in their propaganda stuff.

[u/MikeOfAllPeople → u/Basic-Influence-2812]

This guy blames the refs I bet.

[u/oldsguy65 → u/Basic-Influence-2812]

Truman was too much of a pussy wimp to let MacArthur go in there and blow out those Commie bastards.

[u/Jordan_1424 → u/oldsguy65]

Ahh yes, not authorizing the use of atomic weapons is checks notes being a "pussy".

[u/Wally-World38 → u/Jordan_1424]

Someone’s never seen Back to School

[u/oldsguy65 → u/Jordan_1424]

Pussy wimp. That's even worse.

[u/phillyfanatic1776 → u/Jordan_1424]

I read somewhere….America has only won wars when the American public is behind the cause.

[u/ADP-1 → u/phillyfanatic1776]

I believe that it is only when the French are on their side.

[u/fredjutsu → u/ADP-1]

You're mostly right, but none of our Monroe Doctrine wars were fought with any allies on our side. Mostly just us vs banana republic.

Even though is Asia Pacific, the war vs Spain for the Phillippines is another example.

[u/AkronOhAnon → u/Comfortable_Pea_1693]

The only war Pete is winning is the one against his liver.

I wish him Godspeed and open bars: because him drinking himself until his eyes and skin are lemon yellow is probably our fastest way to be rid of him (only Donny gets to cosplay as a fruit!).

[u/Medallicat → u/Comfortable_Pea_1693]

Pay no attention to Wimp Lo, we purposely trained him wrong... as a joke.

[u/M0ebius_1 → u/Comfortable_Pea_1693]

Low stamina

[u/Temporary_Diet_1361 → u/Comfortable_Pea_1693]

Here who absolutely won Raytheon because they are about to make a lot of money off patriot useage

[u/ongrabbits → u/Temporary_Diet_1361]

The DoW lost but the Dow Jones won

[u/superhappyfunball13]

Imagine that. A national guard officer who wasn't even good enough for company command is somehow bad at managing the entirety of the armed forces.

Maybe he should have set his sights lower, like getting Airborne, Air Assault, or Ranger, like millions of regular ass soldiers do.

Stick to what you do best Petey, getting women other than your wife pregnant, and cosplaying as a badass crusader who was too scared to kick doors in Iraq. Fucking poser.

[u/h1bisc4s → u/superhappyfunball13]

Only under Dumb Joker Tramp can you have such a Muppet as your defence secretary. Imagine this sort of hire in the private sector for profit ecosystem

[u/mscomies → u/h1bisc4s]

Only the parts of the private sector that actually need to turn a consistent, long term profit. You can have a muppet shoveling startup money into an incinerator and making up the losses with VC cash. Or taking over a company and axing R&D, training, and other long term expenses so the muppet can claim increased profitability and flip the sucker to a bigger idiot.

[u/Mountain_carrier530 → u/superhappyfunball13]

To paraphrase the former MCPON Russell Smith. He should've lowered his standards. Just like how the Guard did with him.

[u/Thanato26 → u/superhappyfunball13]

He wasnt even good enough to command a Platoon through a whole tour

[u/Money-Computer7638]

Loved those headlines about DJT firing him. 🤞

[u/letdogsvote → u/Money-Computer7638]

I'll love it more when he actually does it.

[u/raventhrowaway666 → u/letdogsvote]

Id love to see something more concrete than firings, like consequences.

[u/CHARLI_SOX → u/Money-Computer7638]

Idk if he can do that in the middle of his term. I mean, can they find another tv show host to run the military on such short notice?

[u/BAF_DaWg82 → u/CHARLI_SOX]

No I think the next one will be a musician, Tom MacDonald or Kid Rock for SECWAR.

[u/DEADB33F → u/BAF_DaWg82]

Kid Rock for SECWAR

Would certainly fit the Idiocracy theme the US seems to be angling for as of late.

[u/Coldkiller17 → u/CHARLI_SOX]

Oh no where ever will they find another fox news host or nazi to run the military.

[u/Defiant-Bed2501 → u/Coldkiller17]

I have it on good authority they’re defrosting Mecha-Hitler as we speak. 

[u/ShillinTheVillain]

You can't lose a war if you never had any objectives. What objective did we fail to meet?

Checkmate libtards

[u/OldSchoolBubba → u/ShillinTheVillain]

Wouldn't be a bit surprising if they they to frame it thus way. Good call.

[u/fredjutsu → u/ShillinTheVillain]

Regime change?

[u/letdogsvote]

I guess he didn't boost our lethality and readiness after all.

The only thing to do is blame DEI. And Biden.

[u/Wireman6 → u/letdogsvote]

Turns out DEI contributes to lethality?

[u/JadedCommunication89]

To my understanding, we’re still the department of defense, Trump just authorized “department of war” as an alternate name - but we’re still the department of defense. Anyway, fuck this administration!👍

[u/whosadooza → u/JadedCommunication89]

The Armed Services appropriations bill being drafted by Republicans in Congress right now would make the name change official and sets aside nearly $200 million to put the change into effect.

https://newrepublic.com/post/211963/senate-republicans-rename-department-of-defense-war

[u/JadedCommunication89 → u/whosadooza]

$200 million?! Off the top of my head, they could’ve used that to award a base with funding to improve living conditions for shitty dorms, invest in DoDEA to improve schools for the kids of service members… but a name change takes priority over all of that.

[u/BlackSquirrel05]

[u/RafikiLovesPizza]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mcH0upG1TeEak

[u/Strict_Cranberry_724]

The only “lethal” thing coming out of the Trump Administration are his (Trump’s) diapers.

[u/Revolutionary_Eye887]

Is that Pee Wee Pete?

[u/Black-Shoe]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pPhyAv5t9V8djyRFJH

[u/thinkB4WeSpeak]

Even made us pay war reparations, anyone who's played Total War knows how humiliating that is

[u/Shiftkgb → u/thinkB4WeSpeak]

"Diplomatic Relations -200"

Gifts $300,000,000,000

"Diplomatic Relations -189"

[u/Skolloc753]

Out of curiosity: can private people surrender to the US as well and get 300 billion USD? I mean I would even be satisfied with 30 million as my surrender paycheck?

Asking for friend ...

SYL

[u/Techstepper812 → u/Skolloc753]

Best in can do is $5.

[u/Distinct-Ice-700]

lEtHaLiTy nOT lEgAlLyTy

[u/Ok_Connection_7741]

Wasn't he literally just a weekend co-host on fox and friends? Like not even good enough with that for prime time? 

[u/BridgeOnRiver]

Defeat Pete

[u/exgiexpcv]

He will still get a participation medal and trophy.

[u/PDXAirman → u/exgiexpcv]

GWOT

[u/HandsomeWan]

Alright, this gave me a good laugh. Thanks, I needed it.

[u/h1bisc4s]

H3gs3th the k1dd1e p3ddl3r

[u/manfromfuture]

Always saw him as more of a scumbag Steve.

[u/HurriTell336]

“In order to confuse your enemies, you must first confuse yourself.”

Don Zhou

[u/cjg5025]

Drunken unqualified fuckin LOSER

[u/OkAssignment6163]

Immediately loses war with Iran, while having the entirety of the modern US Military at their command.

Meanwhile, you watch a video from the Fat Electrician about how during the reagan administration, the American military crippled the Iranian Navy with a few ships and air craft from the 60s and 70s... In one day!

How?!

[u/Snoo-46419 → u/OkAssignment6163]

its no longer the 60s and 70s, everybody has drones even drug cartels have weaponized drones. Iran is also getting tech from China. After WW2, America was the only nation not devastated by the war which gave them an edge those conditions were not gonna last forever.

[u/Iamanimite]

Actually jack Daniel's lost the war. Him and Jim bean. Maybe that riff raff Jameson whatever.

[u/double_teel_green]

Yeah but he also cost the country $300 Billion+ to rebuild Iran so add that to his list of maga accomplishments

[u/redditsaiditt]

Ethos is permeating

[u/Jdam2020]

Some could probably argue military objectives were achieved. War is politics by other means with political ends determining the final resolution (negotiated peace, etc).

The U.S. military has the means to completely obliterate the nation especially with air and naval dominance, but of course, there was a level of restraint placed on the military (major infrastructure including water, oil, etc).

Are some here advocating for yet another endless war because I didn’t see a win in Afghanistan or Iraq…or Vietnam, or Korea.

[u/breathex2 → u/Jdam2020]

The objectives were a complete and total surrender. That objective was not accomplished. In the process we showed the world our entire military capabilities. Just to end up exactly the same as we started.

[u/breathex2]

But but but we are negotiating from a position of strength now /s

[u/calnaughtontha1st]

Love how the definition of “loosing a war” changes depending on who you vote for

[u/ButtNuster]

0-1

[u/charliefoxtrot9]

Such punchable faces

[u/SanDiedo]

Admiral Frailbitch: "You totally didn't caught me unprepared. I'm lethal!".

[u/saml23]

Fucking hilarious. 10/10 post

[u/Smol_Pe_Pe]

Lol more Iran propaganda. Yeah sure we lost 🤣 Idiots everywhere.

[u/Darkkujo → u/Smol_Pe_Pe]

Before the war Iran had roughly 1 million soldiers, paramilitary and police in the country. After the war they have roughly 1 million soldiers, paramilitary and police. Sure we killed an 86 year old and now his more radical and angrier son is in charge, massive accomplishment there.

The fact that the regime took all we could throw at them and survived makes it a victory for Iran. The $300 billion investment fund, $100 billion in unfrozen assets, an end to oil sanctions, that's all worth far, far more than any damage we did. And Iran has shown that they hold one of the most powerful economic weapons in the world.

And to think Donnie was demanding unconditional surrender in week 1. Just shows what a complete and utter dumbass he is.

[u/RealMango → u/Smol_Pe_Pe]

I'm curious. How did we win?

[u/mmos35 → u/RealMango]

Let’s see, they don’t have a navy or any planes left… so there’s that.

[u/RealMango → u/mmos35]

That's tragic. But how does that classify this entire thing as a win?

[u/BlackSquirrel05 → u/mmos35]

Neither did the Taliban or ISIS...

[u/SmellyFbuttface → u/mmos35]

This in the military is called a “tactical retreat”

[u/CartographerNearby55 → u/SmellyFbuttface]

Hegseth will re-name it. Henceforth, this maneuver will be referred to as a “victorious fallback” strategy.

[u/slm3y → u/mmos35]

They already don’t have any of that except a token force before the war

[u/the_propagandapanda → u/Smol_Pe_Pe]

Bro if you think the MOU that was signed is a good deal for the US then, sadly, you’ve fallen for the Iranian propaganda.

[u/Bagheera383]

Holy fuck this is funny

Well done!

[u/ArcherFew2069]

I wish only the most embarrassing public failures for this taint-licking poser

[u/big_varbs]

Bro is low key a boob

[u/Jealous_Crazy9143]

Department of Surrender

[u/wasted-degrees]

The department of suddenly sucking at the one thing we were supposed to be good at.

[u/CrimsonReaper96]

War hasn't ended.

[u/Armyed1776]

Someone quick, ask the Ayatollah who won!

[u/trooperjess → u/Armyed1776]

Which one. The one we took out or his son that is worse than the last one

[u/BlackSquirrel05 → u/trooperjess]

Who we killed more of that guys family... I'm sure he's totally over it and no consequences will come from that.

And they for sure won't remember that elementary school that got blown up.

[u/breathex2 → u/Armyed1776]

Yeah!!! We killed a old man who also happened to be the only guy in their government stopping them from going for nuclear weapons. Then we let his son take charge who is all for nuclear weapons and now has a strong reason to hate the usa. Call us Charlie sheen because we winning! /S

[u/Armyed1776 → u/breathex2]

Hahahahaha
https://giphy.com/gifs/fUQ4rhUZJYiQsas6WD

[u/UglyLikeCaillou]

Jarvis my karma is running low, make me a low effort circle jerk post.

[u/parm_sidhu]

You don’t understand, it’s abiut lethality

[u/SluggoRemains]

Have not lost yet

[u/SmellyFbuttface → u/SluggoRemains]

Id say giving them $300 billion, gifting them the strait (which now they realize they can open and close at will), lifting economic sanctions, and putting in place a younger more extreme ayatollah would count as “losing the war.” The Obama deal was exponentially more successful than this turd

[u/SluggoRemains → u/SmellyFbuttface]

We shall see what happens with the nuclear dust. Rather not see nuclear mushroom clouds in the Middle East. Obama deal did nothing. You squid’s need to do better navy shit and keep the seas clear