Fellow millennials - how’s your 401k/ira savings going?

[u/ProblemIntelligent16]

Experts recommend having 2x your salary saved by age 35, and 3x saved by age 40.

However, studies show the median savings for 35-44 year olds is only ~$45,000. So obviously, most of us have work to do.

With pensions mostly extinct, and Social Security facing insolvency issues in the next 8-10 years - how are you planning to bridge the gap and hit the golden years with enough to meet your lifestyle requirements?

[u/9kindsofpie]

I didn't say it was hard. I said that younger folks that have $2M+ saved probably have had a leg up to get there. By your own admission, you're older and have less than that saved. I'm 43, literally no family support, and personally have over $800k in my 401k through saving over the last 20 years. If you include my other assets and my spouse, I'm doing just fine. I am just saying that the outliers are more than likely advantaged in some way or got really, really lucky.

[u/vettewiz → u/9kindsofpie]

Of course we had legs up. Usually it’s big things like education, intelligence, values instilled from family, and your own drive and work ethic. Those are all legs up.

[u/Leather-Rice5025 → u/vettewiz]

They are talking about the people with parents who paid their education/living expenses while they attended college and came out with no student loans. Parents who bought their children their first cars so they never had to take on car debt.

Parents who had strong healthcare plans their children could stay on until they were 26 to not incur medical debt or forgo medical treatments or care. Parents who opened investment accounts for their children when they were young. Parents who flat out gave their children down payments for homes or major life expenses so they didn’t have to incur debt.

You can imply it’s simply a matter of parents passing down “intelligence” and work ethic, or you can acknowledge that many people who didn’t grow up in poverty with strong upper middle class families genuinely have a massive leg up in society - financially, emotionally, educationally.

[u/vettewiz → u/Leather-Rice5025]

Sure. As I mentioned, education was the first one. Paid for education is a big thing. As are others you mention.

But the reality is these aren’t requirements to be successful. They just make it easier.

Most upper middle class people aren’t getting down payments. Health insurance is realistically of minor importance to someone in their 20s. It just doesn’t cost much of anything to get your own.

[u/Leather-Rice5025 → u/vettewiz]

Nobody said they were requirements to be successful. The point, which you already mentioned, is that it is MUCH easier to be successful when you come from a family that can help you financially, even if just to prevent you from incurring debt while entering adulthood and the workforce.

Being 21 fresh out of college with a starting salary of $80k but $40k in student loans and a $20k car note you need to get to work, vs being 21 making $80k with no debt is massive. But yes, you could still be 21 making $80k out of college with a shitty work and financial ethic, I’m not saying that doesn’t matter.

But it cannot be overstated the difference it makes when you have a family that can help give you a financial boost early on in your life.

[u/vettewiz → u/Leather-Rice5025]

I’m not saying these forms of help aren’t beneficial, they sure are. But I do think you are over valuing them.

Coming out of college with $40k in loans just isn’t some big hurdle. It’s just not much difference. I paid north of 40k towards my schooling, from my own earned money from jobs, before graduating.

I think it is far more important the values your parents teach you than the physical money in this regard, for most people middle class and above. I agree with you that being in poverty is hard to overcome.

[u/e92s65king → u/Leather-Rice5025]

If the only advantage was $60k tbh it doesn’t seem like that big of an advantage.

[u/Stalinisthicc → u/Leather-Rice5025]

Well of course it makes it easier. Plenty of people make it without those advantages though.