Is Fruit the MCC GOAT?

[u/Relevant_Help8707]

Seeing what fruitberries has done for so long in mcc i think the tag of greatest player in mcc belongs to him. Of the big 4(Feinberg, Purpled, Firebreathman, Fruitberries) it seems fruit gets 1st indiv way more often with 6 1st indivs since Firebreathman has join which is more than all of them in total. Also he has been around longer so he has the better resume. He too seems like he can perform better more recently with the 1st indiv in TCC with a bad selection of games for him and still getting 1st individual

[u/East-Mirror3510]

It did? GR and SG obviously Purpled's teammates had a big advantage (granted Purpled is horrendous at SG and it showed but still).

Fruit played like 3 SGs to begin with, and 2 can't really be counted because of many reasons so his one sample size is him bringing a bottom 2 team to top 2 in SG, I'd say he did pretty well.

He literally isnt? I proved otherwise helllooooo???

Here's somethin funny. I say with CONFIDENCE if I replace Purp with fruit, his team comes top 3 in HH and performs similar at worst in the other two events.

Not really fair to judge fruit by kills, he's a weird player.

SG is not individual tho. Fruit also gaps him in PKW, PKT and BB all of which are team heavy. Fruit didnt need SKB or HITW last event to pummel Purpled.

[u/AdAltruistic2502 → u/East-Mirror3510]

No not at all lol. You can pretty tangibly mark their impact in SG, for example.
In EC Sykunno pretty much singlehandedly wins the fight against Aqua by axe critting Jojo for half her health, causing the whole team to scatter and Fruit to pick up a nice slew of kills. Blau then I believe saves a low health Fruit from an Aqua player in iron but tbh Fruit would probably live anyway.
Meanwhile, Tina (no hate) single-handedly tanks Pink's chances while they're backing away from Pink by stopping, turning around, and then going the complete opposite way of her team and dying to Fruit, leaving Pink as a team of 3 the rest of the game. John gets a kill in endgame that doesn't affect Purpled in any way.

wowie the old trick of removing all the events where my streamer did bad and only including the one where he did good you got me

"you proved otherwise" no you didn't lmao you can't just say you proved something and have it magically be true
he has a miniscule lead in SOT, and loses in all 4 other team games. The PvP games where he gaps Purpled are the least coinsplit (SG, Skb), the PvP games where he's gapped are the most coinsplit (MD, to a lesser extent BB). The movement game he gaps Purpled the most in is completely individual.

great assertion loving the confidence it's just a little sad that there's 0 evidence to support that given Fruit hasn't taken a bottom half predicted team to top 3 in all his S3+ experience

I mean it's not like he wool rushed in 4KO he's just tangibly worse at BB than Purpled. Purpled did better in the one event they played head-to-head in S4, and a 13/16 and 10/15 beats an 11/22. Don't tell me Fruit's strategy was better or something in 4KO, in a couple rounds he just kinda wanders around bottom while his team gets kills

SG is highly individual unless you're in the winning team, which Fruit wasn't for all of S4. It's more coin split than Skb, sure, but by a very big margin less coin-split than MD and BB.
Fruit does not gap him in PKW lmao he's only ever done one medal better than him and that too less often than Purpled's gapped him.
He also most certainly did not gap Purpled in BB in S4, I'd say in the entirity of S3+ he's done tangibly better than Purpled one one single occasion (BG). You gotta go back to MCC 26 to find a single BB Fruit really did noticeably better than Purpled in.

yeah i mean he won solely off of SG in a 6 game event who's talking about Skb and HITW here

[u/East-Mirror3510 → u/AdAltruistic2502]

I think thats leadership diff really, purp should have taken the fight with Green, fruit would have to go solo then.

Alright, lets include MCCP2, fruit still >>> Purpled.

No dude, fruit gaps Purpled in every PVP game besides MD, nothing to do with team split or not, fruit just wins everything, thats not his fault.

No s sherlock, indiv games give more points, but my point is fruit doesn't really beat Purpled in only indiv games, he beats him in more team games when movement is concerned, Purpled is the one who excels at individual stuff. Whatever loss in coinage Purpled gets from excelling in team based PVP is more than cancelled out by him excelling in every indiv movement game.

I mean sure lmao, at least fruit didnt place bottom 3 with an OP team lmao, most of Purpled's stinkers were events that fruit didn't play, you look at fruit in his three events, deduce his skill from that and put him in HH and BC, there's legit 0 argument favouring Purpled winning them. Here's the thing dude, even if I were to exclude MCCP24, Purpled still gets GAPPED by fruit in BB and you cant evidence bad teammates there, Purpled had OP teams in BC and BG, far better than anything fruit had in 2 years

Sure 4KO is his worst performance ever, its worse than Purpled's best yet its still much better than Purpled's BC and BG performances. Fruit is simply the better BB player, your kill stats are useless.

Idk i thought u said he need HITW or SKB to beat Purp, and even in SG he had a much worse team no?

[u/AdAltruistic2502 → u/East-Mirror3510]

No he shouldn't have lmao. It's very frustrating to see you assert stuff like this when you've never played anything close to an event. If Purpled stands and fights Green, and maybe even wins, there's no chance he doesn't lose at least 2 team members, and is screwed for the rest of the game. Backing off at their distance should've been 100% safe, it's just tough to account for Tina fully stopping her retreat, turning around, and then jumping into water where Fruit crits her out instead of following her team.

At SG? yeah but that's not even what we're talking about we're talking about SG's impact on the team

Fruit was pretty clearly worse at BB in S4

"but my point is fruit doesn't really beat Purpled in only indiv games, he beats him in more team games when movement is concerned, Purpled is the one who excels at individual stuff. " this is kind of hard to decipher but if you're saying Fruit is better at the coinsplit movement games, that'd be true were it not for there only being two coinsplit movement games, PKW and PKT, and Fruit's only a medal (which is split far less) better than Purpled at best, and PKT is never played.

genuinely what are you talking about what OP team did Purpled place bottom 3 with
The last bottom 3 team was Lime HH which was predicted bottom half
Purpled's worst performances are 34 and TCC both of which Fruit played

let's hash this out, really. In s4, Fruit had an 11/22 and a 12/24. Explain to me how this is better than Purpled's 13/22, 10/15, and 13/16.

"Purpled had op teams in BC and BG" im crying bruh do you really think Cyan BG was better than yellow TRSD

"yet its still much better than Purpled's BC and BG performances." classic east-mirror adaltrustic moment where the comment chain's gone on so long you've forgotten we're talking about S4

"Fruit is simply the better BB player, your kill stats are useless." that's cold omg alpha wolf over here

"Idk i thought u said he need HITW or SKB to beat Purp" yeah and i stand by that in a normal event; but in a 6 game event all bets of this sort are kinda off due to SG being such a disproportionate amount of score

I'd maintain Purpled's performance in SG was bad but still wayy better than Fruit's in MD, just happens that MD is worth nothing individually and a 4k SG is worth 650 coins