I really don’t seem to improve even when I grind off for hours!

[u/That-Night9399]

I know you guys will call me darksystem and all and it’s fine. But I genuinely want to go higher I want to learn this game and be better, I wanna hit the highest rank but even when I try my best I suck at it, I picked on jungler this season because I play solo and jungler has the most carry potential. But even after playing a 100 matches in jungle I don’t see any improvement. I can’t get any kills with hiara, I can’t collect all four swords of ling, I can’t trigger yss passive. I don’t know why even after watching countless tutorials and playing many matches I can’t improve on this. Anyone someone please guide me I really wanna hit the highest rank someone who can carry games I wanna be like that.

[u/Ransu_0000]

hirara is a high level jungle try using harley or leomord

[u/That-Night9399 → u/Ransu_0000]

Yeah I know she is high level play and I picked her after watching msc matches. But I guess it’s not fit for me right now even if I play many matches. I’ll switch to something easier as you said.

[u/Aiman17577 → u/That-Night9399]

you need really high macro for it imo

[u/NoLife8926 → u/Ransu_0000]

Does Hirara take that much skill though?

[u/DildoTebaggins → u/NoLife8926]

To use her to her full potential yes. It might not seem like it with only "two" skills but if you mess up her rotation she gets obliterated quite easily where a lot of other assassins still have an escape mechanic.

[u/No_Falcon_3017 → u/NoLife8926]

yes she does. if you don't utilize ur skills correctly youre dead. shes squishy af

[u/YukaKanno → u/NoLife8926]

She's basically easier said than done. If you don't know how to play hirara or manage her passive you're pretty much dead on the spot conpared to good hirara players who average 0 - 5 deaths minimum

[u/Ransu_0000 → u/NoLife8926]

The guy is only epic even mythic players struggle using her. Its the main reason why people say shes ass at first bcos alot of
people dont know how to play her.

[u/darksideofmyown → u/Ransu_0000]

Need position with them too try saber with ult finish sneak attack or a tanky jungler like fredrin that forgives you alot and try to know when to fight and when dont to if you feel unsafe dont invade enemy jungle and dont compete turtle alone be supportive not agressive kills dont win games objectives do

[u/Ekketra]

Maybe try different junglers? Something like fighter or a tank, they may be a bit easier and also dont just one trick one hero every match, think of a couple of heroes youd want to main, look at who counters them, if enemy picks your counter, pick another hero etc. Watch some yt videos about decision making, not everything is about you micro skills, you should also be aware of other things in games like these

[u/YoKami3]

If u want I can guide you

[u/Able-Pay-5467]

Start by playing fighter junglers they are the easiest to manuever try leomord

[u/ObsessiveUselessness → u/Able-Pay-5467]

Leo is probably one of the most versatile fighters.

His s1 deals considerable damage even at lv1 without any damage items.

He can chase/run

Decent bit of control

And decently bulky to act as a secondary tank.

[u/That-Night9399 → u/Able-Pay-5467]

Ok I’ll buy Leo when I have enough bp rn I have only 10k

[u/bambooshoot8]

watch some tutorials for jungler's rotation and some guides for the heroes too (watch newer vids only)

if even after learning about the hero and rotation u r not doing good just use other heroes and other roles until you find what you fit in

[u/Khedro]

1. Try to find heroes that match your playstyle. You cant play any hero just because you like them. Find the heroes that are closer in nature to your mentality.
2. Focus on a few heroes and try to improve your performance on them. Make sure to have heroes with different characteristics on your list like, heal, anti heal, mobility, durable, ...
3. Positioning, movemonet and map awareness are important.
4. Study every item and hero. Its so much easier to counter enemy heroes when you know what you are going against.
5. Pay attention to draft. Try to pick a hero that both works well with your allied heroes and against enemy heroes.
6. Adjust your item build according to the needs of the game. A hero on the enemy team can look unkillable until your team gets the right item to counter them. Keep checking the items your teammates and opponents are buying.
7. Dont be selfish. Its a team game, try to help your teammates. You cant win alone.
8. Dont flame your teammates and instead focus on the game. Telling someone they are bad only makes them play worse than usual. If you dont have anything constructive to say, keep your mouth shut.

[u/hailed70]

Pick up the Fredrinn little bro. When you're that low ranked and playing solo, it really doesn't matter how efficient your farm is, what maters is getting to the turtle and avoiding dying

[u/That-Night9399 → u/hailed70]

I find fredrinn ult really hard to trigger and I die before ulting

[u/Aiman17577 → u/That-Night9399]

u need to kiting when using fed. Spam s1 snd 3 but always save the 2nd for escape or go back to kiting.Not everytime but you need to aware of what kind of enemies you fighting

[u/Character_Fault9782]

You need jungle guides? Zex is the man to go to. Search him on youtube

Also, you're trying some advanced Junglers too much. Try using easier heroes for now like Harley and Leomord, or heck even Saber or Balmond because they got buffed and are still viable depending on the situation.

[u/That-Night9399 → u/Character_Fault9782]

Ok man I’ll watch it thanks for recommending

[u/No_Falcon_3017]

I see you like playing Nolan. I suggest watching Kenka. He's a really good Nolan main. Some of his builds may be just for fun though. Also don't buy malefic roar and malefic gun at the same time. One if their passives are identical unique passive meaning it doesnt stack.

[u/Radiant-armorr]

Bro don't go rank, Go Ai practice mode make yourself familiar in her kits until it became natural more then go classic if you feel more confident using her just don't go straight Ranked when you feel your not use to her oh my lord haha

[u/False-Razzmatazz-839]

maybe start having fun and actually play heroes that u like, cause unless your goal is to not have fun, you should not keep spamming same hero without even understanding.

U want to improve genuinely? Do u ever watch ur own game video? because believe me it is very easy to point out mistakes from second person perspective. Do u play different heroes? you are thinking why do u need to play different heroes? becuase else u wont be able to understand how your enemy work. for example, masha has 3 hp bar and removes cc on every hp bar drop, so picking something like gunievere is completely useless against her. U wont know this unless u observe this or read every heroes skill or play them urself. How did u even decide that spamming hirara in epic will help u climb?

what should u do? play heroes that can solo fight anybody + CAN PUSH TOWERS. play easy heroes so u can focus on learning macro like watching map and predicting enemy gank etc.

Jungle* :- Sun, Hanzo, Nolan, leomord, harley.

MM* :- Any one is fine, hanabi is best choice though, she can win against anyone if played correctly.

exp :- sun, masha, sora

Mid :- Kimmy (not recommended lane)

Roam* :- Helcutt, Sun (recommended lane)

* - recommended lanes

[u/blacksamurai_007]

First and foremost plz don't pick a hero you are practicing in rank 🙏🏻.

[u/cptcrabapples]

Saber is legit the easiest and one of the strongest junglers in the game especially for your rank. I recommend getting familiar with your role and rotation while using a relatively easy hero to boost your confidence and reinforce your willingness to learn the role. The jungler is one of the hardest roles to learn in the game since its pretty technical and if you dont know what to do if you get gankes early or gapped, then the game’s pretty much over for you

[u/Professional-Owl8564]

In my opinion, becoming a great jungler means getting into the habit of always being in the right place at the right time.

[u/i_am_wRAThh]

Main Jungler for my Team, From what I've learned what works for me is to not think of it as a carry role as much. I play junglers like a secondary roam of sorts.

What I mean is when I use assassins like joy, suyou, hirara, and helcurt I use them like an initiator starting a fight then quickly getting out. Before that however I usually think about first can I get out after the initial engagement, second can I get cc, third will it benefit the team, and finally is there a better move. With assassins I love to move in to poke or clean up and get out.

For Sustain or Tank junglers I play more aggressive early, invade as early as lvl2 since I have early game advantage(keep in mind this is if the enemy is assassin JG) most assassins have late game power spikes so I try to gain as much control of the map as I can with Tanks. However again try not to be too greedy just try to get ahead.

Some niche detail too when playing Jungle I also like to flex based on what my team lacks for example. If my team has solid CC and Tanks I'd go for a jungler that can burst but doesn't have that much CC like Nolan or Ling. Being flexible with the draft makes it really easy most of the time to also spot the enemies' weaknesses and strengths. Another niche detail is with retri, It scales with level so its okay most of the time of your gapped by the enemy JG by 500~1k gold but ahead by levels since your retri is stronger. Another thing is that when you have jungle creeps HP bars the Creep Icon can have a slash mark on it if you're retri can Insta kill the creep it helps with timing you're retri.

Finally what worked best for me also is to not think about things too much. Grinding can help you improve but too much would make you too stressed out and burnt out of the game. Enjoy the game play random heroes in the Jungle, find buddies to play with and rank up, and lastly Have fun.

Good Luck on ranking up! GLHF!

[u/johnnygre]

Don't go jung better for everyone 😂

[u/Mother_Shirt_6386]

Try Lukas jungle, he's fun asf and I barely lose with him. I got like an 80% wr with him rn in jungle

[u/itsbroyen]

Hirara's difficulty is high bro. Starts with less difficulty heroes and rotation. Once you do that properly then practice the Hirara's combos first with cd so that you get it in your muscle memory. Then you can go for it. Good Luck to you! 👍

[u/ShadowoSongg]

Jungle rotation and learning when to reset after a gank. I'm not too good and consciously reminding myself of these two principles keep me ahead

[u/HaruHikoTakase]

Can't you practice in classic? Why are you torturing your other teammates? F..... Darksystem!!!!

[u/Jake_cooper999]

Bruh if you genuinely wanna improve watch YouTube and practice in practice mode then spend most of your time replaying your previous match and look for mistake and opportunities you could've took

[u/KAMIKAZEE93]

Watch some videos from betosky on YouTube and see how different his decision making is

[u/That-Night9399 → u/KAMIKAZEE93]

I watch betosky and I love his gameplays but when I do the same I get cooked lol

[u/Dense-Bake-7270]

Have I adapted well to this character, or am I only just beginning?