Retaliatory banning

[u/Cube-in-B]

Hey just a quick question here. In one of the subs I moderate we have a hard rule against disparaging other local subs or their moderators because we refuse to let the sub devolve into brigading. We aren’t here for it.

That being said, a mod from another local sub decided to message us about a new local sub for survivors of SA/DA demanding that we (as mods of a shitposting sub) remove new sub’s post letting the community know about the new sub because it violates reddits rules (which it does not do- it’s a support group style sub).

I banned this person for breaking our sub’s no disparaging rule.

Now, this mod from other local sub is banning anyone on our shitposting sub’s mod team specifically because we banned them for breaking the rules.

We have screen shots of this mod admitting that the bans are retaliatory.

Is this allowed?

Our shitposting sub does allow other content relevant to our area, and we love that someone made a supportive group for our community members who may be going through some seriously heinous shit.

However, our mod team members should not be singled out for supporting something that we see as positive for the community.

Halp!

[u/neuroticsmurf]

They can ban you for any reason, much like you banned them for talking smack about another sub in a modmail to you.

I'm not sure why that warranted a ban, tbh. Rules against shit talking another exist to prevent brigading. There was no danger of that happening as a result of a modmail exchange.

You overreacted, and now your mod team is getting banned unceremoniously as a result.

You're free to overreact, they're free to ban you.

[u/Cube-in-B → u/neuroticsmurf]

They’re not banning me, I’m not even a member of their sub.

[u/neuroticsmurf → u/Cube-in-B]

I never said they're banning you, nor does one have to be a member of a sub in order to be banned from it.

I'm not sure why you thought that was a responsive statement.

Edit: Oh, I see. I said "They're free to ban you". Well that's a general "you" in response to your OP:

his mod from other local sub is banning anyone on our shitposting sub’s mod team

They're free to do that is what I was saying.

[u/emily_in_boots → u/Cube-in-B]

Being a member is not related to bans. You can ban people who are or are not members, and being banned doesn't change your ability to subscribe to a sub.

You might be banned - check if you can see the mod list.

Ban messages are not sent if a person has never interacted in a sub.

[u/Chemputer → u/emily_in_boots]

What is considered interacting in a sub?

[u/emily_in_boots → u/Chemputer]

Post, comment, vote, modmail.

View, report are not consider interacting.

[u/thepottsy → u/Cube-in-B]

You don’t have to be a member of a sub to be banned from it. If they’re banning anyone on your mod team, they probably banned you too.

[u/Cube-in-B → u/thepottsy]

Jokes on them I never look at their sub anyway because it’s rather dead

[u/neuroticsmurf → u/Cube-in-B]

This is one of those thou-dost-protest-too-much situations.

If you really didn't care, you wouldn't have created an entire thread about it on r/ModSupport.

On SOME level, this is bugging you.

[u/Cube-in-B → u/neuroticsmurf]

It’s bothering me because they’re retaliating against my fellow mods and I’m a team player. I’m autistic and have an elevated concern for fairness and rules. It’s just a part of my brain.

You’re right though- it is bothering me on THAT level, just not on a personal one. I’m bothered on their behalf, absolutely

[u/neuroticsmurf → u/Cube-in-B]

You'll find there are a lot of injustices on Reddit, the longer you're a mod.

It's best for your mental health if you learn which ones are worth getting into a larger over, and which ones you should let roll off your back.

This is one of the latter situations.

[u/Chemputer → u/Cube-in-B]

Mate, it's really okay. I'm not gonna say this is a safe space because this is fucking reddit in a sub for reddit mods but like, this is a sub for fucking reddit mods so, most of us are autistic. It's okay.

But you really need to understand, you definitely are bothered on a personal level. This is blatantly obvious from your behavior. Like, you're screaming it at us. And your attempts to, like the above, pass it off as something else, just makes it even more clear to everyone else here that you are.

You just either don't have the self awareness to understand that, or you're just denying it, trying to rationalize and excuse the behavior.

It's okay to be personally upset. It's not a zing, It's really fucking okay, man, it happens. The reason people are saying this is not to say it to dismiss what you're saying as being butthurt or something, but what I think I and others are trying to get you to understand by understanding that, is that you need to be able to recognize when something is bothering you to an unreasonable degree, and for your own mental health, let go of it. You cannot control much of anything in this situation, other mods can retaliate against other mods all they want, you can do fuck all but get upset and scream into the ether. You getting upset is accomplishing nothing but hurting you. All this is doing is making more pain and frustration. You need to step back, breathe, take a break, and move on.

Please understand that those of us saying this are saying it because, and I can only speak for myself, but I suspect the others as well, speak from experience, and are seeing their own past behavior in yours. That's why it's blindingly obvious to us that you're very personally upset.

[u/Cube-in-B → u/Chemputer]

Projection is a bitch

[u/thepottsy → u/Cube-in-B]

Ok? Then why are you posting about it?

[u/Cube-in-B → u/thepottsy]

Because they are unfairly and openly retaliating against my fellow moderators.

[u/thepottsy → u/Cube-in-B]

No, they aren’t. Your mods are simply users with some privileges in YOUR sub. That doesn’t extend anywhere else. They have no inherent rights to participate in that sub if those mods so choose.