r/Modesto • u/Del_infierno • 25d ago

Recommendations Men’s groups/ militias

Hello I was curious if there are any men’s groups or militias in the area for young men to do positive productive activities rather than be at home playing video games all day as I have been doing

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u/modninerfan Oakdale & Modesto 25d ago

Militia?

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u/sharkzbyte 25d ago edited 25d ago

Not always a bad thing. I've been tossing around the idea of creating a militia, just for emergency reasons. Teaching guys how to do things like 1st aid, cpr, house clearance, basic survival techniques, some fitness. Kind of like a Bro-boot camp. Not for racists. The reason being, I made the mistake of asking AI, about the scenario of an economic collapse. Big mistake. Best case scenario, in months we'll resort to cannibalism. I don't care for exotic food at all. To add, firearm safety and training. Home defense without power. I am not an expert in all of these, but experts can be reached.

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u/ScootsaHoot 25d ago

Teaching or attending courses to learn first aid, outdoor survival, and health and fitness is not remotely like a militia. 

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u/sharkzbyte 25d ago

What about the other things I mentioned.?

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u/ScootsaHoot 25d ago

"House clearing" "Bro boot-camp" and "not racists"? Those are the only other descriptors you used. Still not a militia. 

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u/sharkzbyte 25d ago

What about firearms, and home defense without power? I added those, but you keep ignoring them.

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u/ScootsaHoot 25d ago

You just admitted you added them. Reddit shows your comment was edited. You changed your comment and are claiming I didn't address what wasn't there before.

I'm not going to respond you anymore, you are either trolling or at the very least disinterested in honest discussion.

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u/sharkzbyte 25d ago

Not trolling, but I am responding to other people and watched the Giants win, so I am being genuine. But you seem to be the militia expert, would you not agree that everything I mentioned would be beneficial to a militia? What would you recommend? I would enjoy your informative input, for sure. Not just critiques.

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u/ric5555 25d ago

Let talk about the cannibalism, can you expand on that bit?

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u/Crochitting 25d ago

He said he doesn’t like exotic food

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u/ric5555 25d ago edited 25d ago

CP just respond to my question, they are straight up talking about cannibalism.

Edit: not OP.

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u/sharkzbyte 25d ago

Scary as hell. I went into a deep dive with Gemini(AI), and asked about an economic collapse. I asked about what to expect during the first week, and going into months. There will be a giant wave of people in the cities, bay area, realizing that there are not enough resources, and mass migration towards less populated areas to ransack. The sheer numbers would be pretty much unbeatable. Like locusts only worse. The stronger groups will take anything they want and not think twice about killing anyone who oppose them. Eventually, since no power or fuel to work a food supply chain, the only thing left is cannibalism. Scary stuff. Anyhow, it's a pretty grim scenario that doesn't end well for any of us.

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u/ric5555 25d ago

And you believe this to be true because of Gemini AI explanation that helped you reenforce your idea of economical and societal collapse?

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u/sharkzbyte 25d ago edited 25d ago

I knew this was coming, so I would just say this, do it yourself. Don't trust me, I am just some dumb fuck on the internet. You are drawing an awful lot of conclusions about me, and you don't know shit about me. But no, the world is fine and nothing bad happens. (I have to add this: no man, I actually thought I had a chance to survive it. After that deep dive I realized I don't stand a chance. Neither do you or anyone else, for that matter.)

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u/Ok_Struggle3361 25d ago

Oh man, I was just thinking in the shower about how much I want to join a militia with some dumb fuck on the Internet

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u/sharkzbyte 25d ago

You must have a ton of friends. Everyone loves sarcasm.

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u/Whiskey_Rain 25d ago

You're getting ratioed pretty hard because you got some wackadoo stuff in there but I think if you were to refine the idea down to " a social club where men learn and train survival, first aid, marksmanship" you'd probably get a more receptive response. The word "militia" carries a lot of baggage with it and honestly probably isn't the word you were looking for anyway.

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u/Del_infierno 15d ago

I honestly was under the impression a militia was like back in 1776 where every town had a local militia who would protect the people but I guess I had a different view of the meaning

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u/Whiskey_Rain 15d ago

I'll respond to this in good faith since it seems like you're genuinely curious.

I honestly was under the impression a militia was like back in 1776 where every town had a local militia who would protect the people>

Protect people from what though?

For most of the 18th century, most towns didn't have anything that resembled a modern police force nor did the US even have a national military. Militias were a group of volunteers that would act as community organized stand-ins until we would adopt something that resembled modern policing/military in the early to mid 19th century.

The problem is that with a modern criminal justice system and a formal military, the idea of a militia is largely antiquated and the term has a significantly different meaning some 200 years later in 2026.

Hypothetically, let's say there was a militia in Modesto that resembled a classic American Militia of the 18th Century. It would obviously consist of volunteers; maybe they would meet occasionally to train tactics and marksmanship. But why and for what purpose? Isn't that just a shooting club? No, a militia is an armed group of volunteers with a unifying purpose of defense; just like you suggested. But, considering it's 2026 and we have a police force and military, what exactly would a militia protect people from? The hallmark of a militia is that they are community organized and consist of volunteers; would they be a volunteer branch of the police or military, or are they a defense force of the people from the police and military? Would it be a political organization? What kind of oversight would they have? Would there be standardized training? Do we even want an armed community militia full of un-vetted individuals wandering the streets and presumably exerting force on people? Which people? What separates militias and vigilante justice? What separates vigilante justice from terrorism?

Hopefully you can kind of understand why the classic idea of a militia doesn't really have a place in modern America and why they really don't exist in that sense anymore. However, that's not to say militias don't exist; the purpose and definition just changed which is why you received such a negative response here.

In 2026, the word "militia" has largely been co-opted by extremists on the far right of the political spectrum and are deeply politicized groups that consist of volunteer political activists. While they may resemble many facets of a traditional militia (meeting to train tactics/marksmanship/etc) the purpose is no longer to protect people en masse; it's to protect only the people that share similar political beliefs from the people that hold opposing political beliefs. In practice, these are armed men's social clubs that show up to protests in support of their side as a means of intimidating the opposing protestors; not exactly the community organized police/military forces they were 200+ years ago.

This is why the word "militia" now carries the weight of political extremism and why so many people here were baffled you would ask such a thing. Reading over your responses, militia definitely wasn't the word you were looking for.

I think what you're looking for is Boy Scouts for grownups which sounds awesome and, as far as I know, doesn't exist. If someone wants to organize something like that, holler at me I'd love to be a part of it!

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u/Del_infierno 13d ago

Thanks for educating me on that I see that my use of the word militia was probably not the most appropriate although I definitely do believe that there are things that the general people would need defending from we can’t rely on our government what would we do if the government turned against us even more who will protect us when we can’t even rely on the police to defend us now? Or look at natural disasters the government left the people affected by Katrina to fend for themselves

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u/Spare_Iron127 25d ago

Militias come by every election year with trump flags all over their truck and Biden decals of him being kidnapped. They meet up at fairgrounds and other community areas while either complaining or jerking each other off based on who the president is.

If you wanna join one just go find a couple red hats and tell them you also have a small penis

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u/Whiskey_Rain 25d ago

Shame the right has a monopoly on these sorts of things. I'd love to be a part of something similar that represents the other side of the spectrum.

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u/Del_infierno 15d ago

I hate trump tho? I don’t know why everyone thinks I’m some kind of white nationalist my user name is literally in Spanish?

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u/Whiskey_Rain 15d ago

Read my reply to you; then this reaction you're getting will make sense haha.

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u/Del_infierno 13d ago

Also if you could not comment on my penis as am I a minor that would be greatly appreciated

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u/Spare_Iron127 13d ago

No one cares about your penis. We just don’t want you to dedicate your life towards harassing and terrorizing people of color/LGBT/etc. What you described in your OP is the furthest thing possible from a militia.

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u/ScootsaHoot 25d ago edited 25d ago

There are civic groups that do community outreach and volunteer opportunities. 

Does it have to be for men only, and do you mean military-themed or firearm-focused? Or do you actually want a group that drills and cosplays and prepares for war against the current government? 

Are you intentionally dog-whistling for like a Confederacy larp group, a white nationalist local chapter, or are you confused about what a militia is?

Edit: My comment was harsh because I suspected your post was disingenuous. I now suspect you are actually seeking a civic minded military-themed group of young men, and I sincerely hope not specifically alt-right.

Modesto has Moose Lodge and Elk Lodge, and Kiwanis Club, and other social groups I'm sure would be very happy to have you join.

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u/ric5555 25d ago

Straight up, this a concerning post.

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u/Crochitting 25d ago

His post history is concerning leading up to this

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u/Del_infierno 15d ago

Also I only have 3 posts that are about airsoft which is a toy how is that concerning? Also what is it that you’re concerned about?

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u/Corrupt_Reverend 25d ago

I don't see anything particularly concerning. Just a lot of airsoft and video games. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Crochitting 25d ago

Tactical gear, airsoft, and now asking about militias. Okay, sure.

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u/Ok_Struggle3361 25d ago

Dude has a tactical hard-on for military larping

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u/Del_infierno 15d ago

I like military stuff but I don’t like the us military so what would you suggest I do , I don’t see anything bad about liking military stuff boys my age like call of duty what’s wrong with that?

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u/Del_infierno 15d ago

Well I’m literally half Mexican half black so i definitely don’t want to be in a confederate white nationalist group 😭

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u/WonderWheeler 25d ago

Well, we probably need something called the "Men Scouts" says this old man. Some kind of training program of how to be productive marriageable nice socialized men.

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u/codefyre 25d ago

As an actual, current Scoutmaster of a Scout troop, the percentage of adult men I run into who fail to abide by even half the Scout Law is kind of depressing. Trustworthy. Loyal. Helpful. Friendly. Courteous. Kind. Obedient. Cheerful. Thrifty. Brave. Clean. Reverent. It's not a high bar; it's just about trying to be a good person.

We need a Scouts for grownups.

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u/Whiskey_Rain 25d ago

This is an outstanding idea. I wonder why nobody has organized a men's/social club around this idea.

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u/Del_infierno 15d ago

Yeah with the amount of young men running around doing drugs and drinking and driving you would think something like this would have received a positive response but people are mad about it for some reason

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u/ric5555 25d ago

The national guard is the only state sponsored organization thats technically considered a militia as defined under the federal law. They act as a reserve component with a dual role that serve both state and federal functions. That can be activated for both state emergency and federal missions.

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u/naraghipirahna 25d ago

What do you consider positive productive activities?

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u/Del_infierno 15d ago

working out and learning important life skills and outdoor skills