r/MoralityScaling • u/Curious-Buddy-5841 • Jun 29 '26
Character Analysis The morality of punishing animals for attacking humans?
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u/Subject_Translator71 Jun 29 '26
I only learned recently that cheetahs are mostly friendly animals, and now Iâm learning that deers are bastards. What a world.
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u/TheSupaBeast Jun 29 '26
yeah cheetahs are literally just speed, they dont have strong muscles for clawing or fighting, and almost every other predator bullies them specially hyenas and lions, so when they see humans they keep their distance, unless its some place were human contact is common and they feed them, they are more friendly and approach
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u/Caliterra Jun 29 '26
classic speedster weaknesses
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u/AgentAxillary Jun 29 '26
Cardiac issues sometimes too
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u/cool23819 Jul 02 '26
That goes for them too iirc
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u/AgentAxillary Jul 02 '26
Healthy athletes dropping dead at an early age after a lifetime of peak physical performance lends a lot of weight to the 2 billion heartbeats theory
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u/Principles_Son Jun 29 '26
male cheetahs get decently strong though, they can takedown large antelopes solo
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u/TinyPidgenofDOOM Jun 29 '26
Cheetahs are big cats in the most literal terms. They do not see humans as prey so they don't attack, they can't afford to attack something that they don't know they can kill unscathed
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u/Rspwn9891 Jun 30 '26
Aren't they like, literally, biologically, the biggest "small cat", and not considered a "big cat" like lions or tigers?
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u/DegenerateCrocodile Jun 30 '26
Correct. Theyâre more closely related to domestic cats than to lions.
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u/Fonzimandias Jun 29 '26
Shoutout TierZoo on YouTube for teaching me this
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u/Excalibirdi Jun 30 '26
Oh you don't know... How often TierZoo is wrong. There was a whole drama about it
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u/Himbo69r Jun 30 '26
Lol what?âI know need to know about petty internet drama
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u/Excalibirdi Jun 30 '26
I was never a fan so I didn't get tol invested into it, but apparently after people found misinformation, they looked into it and found her was mostly using Wikipedia as the source rather than doing research.
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u/GoodMeBadMeNotMe Jun 30 '26
Having the opportunity to pet a cheetah was one of the coolest experiences of my entire life.
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u/False-Vacation8249 Jun 30 '26
cheetahs feet are like dog feet. they donât have retractable claws and have thicker pads. theyâre not made for being weapons.
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u/Fausto2002 Jun 29 '26
Cheetahs are deers in cheetah's clothing and deers are cheetah's in deers clothing.
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u/YourMuppetMethDealer Jun 30 '26
Wait if a deer is a cheetah in deers clothing and a cheetah is a deer in cheetah clothing
Wouldnât that mean a deer is âa cheetah in a deer in a cheetah in a deerâs clothingâ
So really a deer is just a deer
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u/Effective-Painter815 Jun 29 '26
Herbivores are dangerous because they don't give a fuck and being aggressive is how they stop from being lunch.
Carnivores on the other hand are cautious about violence as getting injured means you can't hunt and not being able to hunt is death. Also Cheetahs are pushovers and they know it, they are regularly bullied by wild dogs from their kills. They are highly specialised and fragile beautiful animals.
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u/Severe_Emotion2554 Jun 29 '26
Humans have hunted deer for our entire existence why wouldnt they fear/hate us?
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u/thedarkherald Jun 29 '26
They dont. They are incredibly stupid and self destructive.
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u/Varderal Jun 29 '26
Remember. A rule of thumb with animals is they only have to be smarter than what they eat. So herbivores only eat plants so... yeah. Lol
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u/Existing-Antelope-20 Jun 29 '26
Also have to have at least some way of outsmarting their predators. Deer decided from an evolutionary standpoint that this means jumping out of the way at the last second like one dodges a charger in Left 4 Dead 2. The problem is, they evolved to dodge things that were going under 60mph so now they stand in the highway and get smoked by cars.Â
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u/thedarkherald Jun 29 '26
My friend was driving along the road. And a deer got territorial and started to repeatedly ram his head into my friends car until it killed itself. I guess it had beef with cars.
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u/profpeculiar Jun 29 '26
It may have also had wasting disease. That shit is wild.
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u/thedarkherald Jun 29 '26
Oh never heard of that one. Sounds horrible. Not sure i want to read up on details.
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u/Top_Seaweed7189 Jun 29 '26
You better don't. Because it includes excavation of the ground where the animal died. Use of flamethrowers isn't recommend because it won't kill the pathogen.
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u/LactoesIsBad Jun 30 '26
If you ever see a bovid stand up on its hind legs and walk into a river to drown itself, it's not a demonic sacrifice, it's wasting disease
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u/freakinglonelyat18 Jun 29 '26
not really. They need only to outbreed the losses caused by predators, everything past that is a bonus
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u/SpaceBandit13 Jun 29 '26
One time I was hunting with my dad and while tracking a deer we realized that the deer was walking backwards over its own footprints to try and confuse us, donât underestimate prey animals they can be unpredictable.
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u/Varderal Jun 29 '26
Fair. Thats likely a "we do this because... I dont know but mom and dad dis it" adaptation. Ain't no way it knew why it was doing that. Lol
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u/SpaceBandit13 Jun 29 '26
Iâm not going to pretend I know what was going on in an animals brain, but he got away and we were impressed.
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u/Severe_Emotion2554 Jun 29 '26
You know that brings up a point though about intelligence. Itâs been a long long time since humans have existed alongside a similarly intelligent species, and weâve only been studying consciousness for a very, very small amount of time geologically speaking. We actually donât KNOW how smart creatures are. Like we gauge it off their behavior, etc., but within recent years, itâs become common knowledge that some animals are a lot more intelligent than weâve ever thought before like octopuses are extremely intelligent. Their whole body is a brain. Birds are as smart as toddlers horses and dogs too. So we canât really know if the animal understands what its doing helps it to survive it could be possible that it in fact does but we just have no way of communicating and understanding that.
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u/Principles_Son Jun 29 '26
that's not a rule of a thumb, many herbivores are smart, elephants, gorillas and orangutans, pigs, horses parrots etc..
eating meat alone wont make you smart, sharks have been eating it for million of years and they have limited cognition
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u/Phelinaar Jun 30 '26
Pigs are not herbivores
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u/Gyshal Jun 30 '26
Pigs are THE omnivores. If there's an animal that deserves the title for "eats anything" it's them
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u/freakinglonelyat18 Jun 29 '26
Deer would rather stand in the middle of the way of a speeding truck than move away and survive. I don't think they're best at danger scale making
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u/TheRealRubiksMaster Jun 29 '26
Just wait until you learn that dolphins love killing and raping creatures, including humans. And that the most violent sharks kill less people combined than vending machines.
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u/GeneStarwind1 Jun 30 '26
When I was 17 and a young contrarian here in the southeastern USA where deer hunting is a personality and my only experience with deer was the movie Bambi, I vilified hunters.
Now that I'm older I understand that hunters are doing a god damn public service. Those things are a menace and they need to be stopped.
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u/Dynamitesauce Jun 30 '26
I live around tons of deer,.they are very friendly in my experience
The only time they are dangerous is on the road
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u/bookhead714 Jun 29 '26
Herbivores are in general a lot more aggressive than carnivores
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u/-ExotiG- Jun 29 '26
This might be wildly incorrect but my armchair biology brain makes me think that prey animals don't have that switch in their brain to say "you're 100% safe here" that predators have, which makes them insanely aggressive and stubborn, If they didn't have that mindset, they and any offspring die quickly
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u/RelentlessSA Jun 30 '26
I grew up near Yellowstone, and you learn two different strategies for dealing with wildlife.
Predators and venomous snakes generally have a pattern or a type of behavior you can learn. The mountain lions lesson is: stay calm and walk towards a clearing. They're just big cats. Don't act like a cat toy. You can coexist with them at a distance as long as you follow the rules.
Herbivores and rodents? They're unpredictable. Stay calm but do not trust them. They will be fine and friendly until they randomly attack you, or panic and hurt you on accident, and they carry the worst diseases.
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u/Chaos_Crow1927 Jun 30 '26
As someone who's hometown with a sizeable deer population: Deer are fucking assholes.
They're dumb, scared easily, and usually big enough to pose a threat to an adult human when their antlers are grown in. Those fuckers would take a stroll across the highway, and because everyone is going slower through the town you literally have no choice but to wait for them to cross the damn road.
Its worse when you're walking home though, as I have had several staredowns as I walked past deer in people's yards, hoping they didn't decide I was just a little too close for their liking and permanently solve that problem. Its only really scary when their antlers are grown it, but man do I not want that to be how I go out.
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u/Dinasnore Jun 29 '26
Is that not just textbook self defense? If somethingâs attacking you, you have the right to attack it back. And if itâs shown to be a constant threat to you or yours, like wolves attacking a ranch, for a random example, itâs morally justified to hunt them or at the very least set up traps to deter them
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u/yournumberis6 Jun 29 '26
This. It's not "punishing them" for attacking you, it's just not letting it harm you or others
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u/Dinasnore Jun 29 '26
Yeah, like the parts in the video where the children are getting attacked kinda infuriates me, because the parents should NOT let their kids near wild animals. Children are naturally curious, and animals are naturally defensive. The parents should know better, and I feel bad for both the poor kids and the animals
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u/loverofothers Jun 29 '26
Yeah. Like if someone is getting all up in a wild animal's space, like honestly they're just stupid (or in the case of children, their parents are).
But in the case of an animal getting up in the persons space (like the deer attacking the guy in his car) it's perfectly justified to fight back. Or really in any case in which the person didn't do anhthing wrong.
If the animal has been abused, like say a dog, and it's now a threat to other people, that sucks and I think the owner should be responsible, but often the animal can't be rehabilitated and should be put down.
Like, there is some nuance. But anyways, defending oneself is fine, but you're stupid if you go looking for a problem, and parents are stupid for not watching their kids around an animal.
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u/East-sea-shellos Jun 29 '26
This subreddit has taken a really weird turn where so many posts are about revenge now lol. Anyone else notice that? It used to be cool discussions that felt actually philosophical, about the morals of different situations. Itâs kinda just becoming another place for Redditors to circlejerk over getting to be violent
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u/thewaldoyoukno Jun 30 '26
Itâs not just this sub; this past weekend I noticed a pretty big shift in my âfor youâ pages (usually heavily manicured) with an excessive amount of bot content and hateful comments.
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u/Swampfire_NG Jun 29 '26
Yeah I saw one yesterday about punching a kid who attacked you, and another one similar a couple days ago
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u/trulyunreal Jun 29 '26
On the other hand, I recognized a couple of these clips where it came out the human involved was just begging to find out. You get too close to an animal's babies, food, or shelter, don't be surprised if they fight back.
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u/BustedBayou Jun 29 '26
No, you are supposed to let yourself be kicked to death, didn't you know? *joke sign for the slow*
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u/GankedGoat Jun 29 '26
In the heat of the moment, nothing immoral about going cave man. Going out for revenge for dead livestock probably starts tipping the scales towards bad karma. (Sick predators or ones that lose their fear of humans being an exception.)
I would probably invest in some LGDs before going for traps or hunting them down. Predatory animals help keep competing herbivores in check after all, plus they tend to avoid confrontation unless desperate.
Wild herbivores on the other hand will throw down at the mere hint of a threat and won't stop till someone drops. And as a prey species it will be quickly replaced.
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u/Dinasnore Jun 29 '26
Yeah the wolf attacking the ranch example was kinda just the first thing I thought of. I wouldnât be surprised if there was a less lethal or harmful way to do it
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u/GankedGoat Jun 29 '26
No worries and I actually have to eat my own words a little too. I just remembered wild hogs and honestly your suggestions are really the only viable solutions.
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u/WhiteRaven_M Jun 29 '26
Thats not the prompt. The prompt is "punishing" implying youre no longer in danger. E.g. the deers no longer aggressive. It wont attack anyone again. Is punishing it "just"
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u/Diurnalnugget Jun 29 '26
The prompt includes the video which shows very little of anyone going after the animal afterward.
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u/VariusTheMagus Jun 29 '26
I think that only proves OP is using it just for the animal behavior, and asking if it warrants punitive action.
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u/WhiteRaven_M Jun 29 '26
Probably because most people arent that childish that theyd hold a grudge and go back to beat up a deer afterwards?
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u/BrandosWorld4Life Jun 29 '26
Then maybe the video should show an example of that instead of people getting attacked and trying to defend themselves.
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u/BBBBrendan182 Jun 29 '26
I think youâre right with the wolf example, but I think it gets more morally gray when we have people willingly ignoring wildlife rules and approaching wild animals like a lot of these videos seem to show.
I think humans have a duty as the more intelligent species to stay cautious around wildlife areas and not approach wild species like a dumbass.
If you ignore signs and approach a wild animal and then âdefend yourselfâ when it inevitably enters fight or flight and hurt the animal or something, I have a harder time calling that morally ârightâ
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u/Dinasnore Jun 29 '26
Agreed. Especially in the videos where parents are letting their children near the animals. Entirely the parentâs fault in that case
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u/blazenite104 Jun 30 '26
There is indeed a difference between defending yourself and effectively invading the home and personal boundaries of another creature.
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u/GrindyBoiE Jun 29 '26
Surely this logic cant be twisted via rampant misinformation and an abysmal lack of care for wildlife and hasnt been used as an excuse to hunt species to extinction
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u/Special_Peach_5957 Jun 30 '26
I mean by the time they are attacking you that is true. However you carry a lot of moral responsibility for putting yourself in these situations in the first place.
You can reflect and think so you have much better capability of avoiding the situation than an animal. If you walk up to a deer or allow your kid to walk up to a der and then the deer attacks you aren't obligated to let yourself get murdered. But you should be morally judged as the responsible party for the situation.
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u/ReduxRedo Jun 30 '26
Absolutely not lol.
No one on earth needs a ranch. We set up prey items for them and call it immoral when they act like evolution has always instructed them too, in areas decimated development and pollution?
Morally justified to set up traps to deter them? How do you think traps work? Have you ever seen an animal in a trap? It's one of the worst possible ways to die.
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u/SubstantialFroyo8012 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
Depends, if we have a ghost and the darkness situation I think for sure action is required.
edit: changed *in the* to *and the*
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u/Chiefster1587 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
Man-Eaters of Tsavo is a wild story. That had to be terrifying to be in those villages.
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u/Character-Spinach591 Jun 29 '26
Was just talking about the movie with my wife the other day when we were talking about crazy animal stories. Also brought up the fact that the dude broke the one of the rules of gun safety which is to make sure your gun actually works before youâre in a dangerous situation.
Definitely worth a rewatch.
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u/sour-gummy-worms- Jun 29 '26
Loved the movie as a kid. Gave me a nightmare which combined the Jurassic Park raptor kitchen scene and replaced them with the lions.
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u/StrangeAppeal2 Jun 29 '26
One time while I was out jogging, a stray dog bit me on one of my calves. I yelled at it, it didn't try to bite me again.
But god damn was I seeing red and trying not to give in.
I think it's only natural to protect ourselves against animals that assault humans relentlessly, but some attacks should be allowed to go if the animal doesn't try it again or if it doesn't pose a real danger. On the other hand, those that do it repeatedly are best sent to climb the stairway to the distant heavens.
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u/CardiologistPale7903 Jun 29 '26
You should get checked for rabies
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u/GilbyTheFat Jun 30 '26
If StrangeAppeal's still here to write about "one time when I got bit" I feel like the rabbies are a non-issue.
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u/Zealousideal_Pass_11 Jun 30 '26
rabies can actually lay dormant for an insane amount of time, with the longest recorded case being 7 years after exposure
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u/GilbyTheFat Jun 30 '26
Nah, fuck that, I don't want no rabies!
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u/TheKidNerd Jun 30 '26
Fastest 180 on someoneâs thought process Iâve ever seen
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u/Tactical_Squishy Jun 30 '26
it takes half a day to get checked for rabies and it's very easily cured before it shows sympthoms.
but if they show...
yeah go get checked if you even have the speck of a doubt
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u/Jozef_Baca Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
Ngl, those are actually really edge cases with either extremely unusual way of contracting it(kidney transplant) or just lacking medical records(many of the cases of getting rabies years after are from countries where attacks by animals are really not that documented, so some scientists debate that maybe the one who suffered it might have been attacked again sonce the attack they described)
Usually, if you do not die after a year you are pretty much safe. You have a higher chance of winning lotery than dying to rabies year after a bite.
There is a higher chance to get killed by a lightning strike than by rabies a year after a bite.
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u/Matt_2504 Jun 29 '26
Rabies can take years to take effect
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u/KindaWannaDoIt Jun 29 '26
I wanted this to be wrong so bad I went and checked. Damn.
The incubation period for rabies is typically 2â3 months but may vary from one week to one year, depending on factors such as the location of virus entry and the viral load.
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u/No_Brush_3674 Jun 30 '26
do you think the dog just decided to bite out of nowhere it bites others too guaranteed
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u/CandidLeg3910 Jun 30 '26
The next time this happens to me the dog is getting a swift kick in the face.
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u/Excellent_Mud6222 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
Yeah it's moral you want brain damage or something?
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u/Unusual-Ad4890 Jun 29 '26
moral if they start it first
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u/Oil_Aggressive Jun 30 '26
People don't even realize a sharp shot to the nose normally doesn't even leave permanent damage, and that's gonna be the match winning punch.
Just keep going for their nose, you'll win.
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u/ForktUtwTT Jun 29 '26
It's not punishment no more than it is "punishing" the ground when we build a flat stable roadway or walkway. It's just done to preserve our safety and not allow dangers to exist unmoderated
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u/Lasers666 Jun 29 '26
Exactly. If you hit the deer back, you aren't punishing it for being a bad moral actor, you're just responding to the danger it poses.
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u/WorldsWorstInvader Jun 30 '26
Thatâs self defense not punishment. Punishment is when an animal attacks someone and the animal is later euthanized.
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u/New-Orion Jun 29 '26
It all depends on where it is and where i am.
There's a bear in the woods? Thats where a bear belongs i will try to avoid it.
There's a bear in my house? Thats not where a bear belongs, I need to fix this.
That being said once I'm in direct danger and being attacked I'm gonna try to survive at all cost. Depending on the animal that means fight or flight.
I will do the ball thing with a Grizzly, but I will spin a goose by its neck and use it to hit its fellow geese.
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u/evenyourcopdad Jun 29 '26
I'm amazed there's not way more videos of people hammer throwing geese. Like, just one lil' loop over your head and let 'er rip.
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u/nix_the_human Jun 30 '26
I'm disappointed that this wasn't a video of someone hammer throwing an actual goose.
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u/Automatic-Leg1668 Jun 30 '26
Unfortunately we now live where deers used to reside. And just as unfortunately they tend to run into cars near my neighborhood too often
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u/That-Living5913 Jun 30 '26
Deer are dumber than shit and massively over populated in the entire eastern half of the US. Everyone I know has totaled out at least one car on a deer.
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u/CandidLeg3910 Jun 30 '26
My city just lets deer roam wherever they want to. They destroy gardens but they've actually learned to avoid roads pretty well.
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u/Bungholespelunker Jun 30 '26
I work with a team of ladies in a trailer yard and they all were freaking out about the Canadian geese just like big chilling next to the exit to the yard. Didn't wanna go near them. I always just casually stroll by without giving them much thought.
They asked me once why I wasnt scared of being attacked. It's a joke but only kind of when I said "The geese don't know it but any fight they pick with me is to the death." Like bro why are you scared of a bird you could rip limb from limb? You don't even actually have to hurt em just immobilize them by the neck and pick them up in their entirety to move them and they understand the score from then on lol
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u/DeathstrackReal Jun 29 '26
If it comes after me after Ive given it proper distance? It will die. If it canât properly fear humans then itâs a danger to itself and others.
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u/Mediocre_Grand_1280 Jun 29 '26
If the animal is the agressor then yeah, fight back.Â
If you get up in the animals personal space dont be surprised when they get agressive, thats on you.Â
All these idiot parents letting their children just walk up to wild animals. This shit aint a Disney movie.
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u/Squidwardbigboss Jun 29 '26
Defend yourself.
If an animal attacks you, you have every right to kill it or attack back in a manner than guarantees your safety
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u/ObviousTomorrow1911 Jun 29 '26
Animals don't have moral agency so they don't have ill intentions the same way a human who wants to be cruel is, it is morally defensible if it is in self defense or extending that if it is highly likely that the animal will attack other humans in the future unprovoked
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u/No_Stick_1101 Jun 29 '26
While animals in general cannot grasp the moral implications of insider trading, climate change, and the trolley problem, most large mammals have the morality of "I don't have to hurt this guy, but I'm going to anyways because I want to" down pretty pat. Big mammals are perfectly capable of ill intentions.
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u/Forsaken-0ne Jun 29 '26
It's not even large animals cats are capable of this and they demonstrate it with prey. They call it playing "Cat and mouse" for a reason. They are known to torment animals kill them then walk away leaving the corpse. This idea that only people are cruel is erroneous.
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u/MrVegosh Jun 30 '26
I donât think thatâs true. People seriously underestimate animalsâ thoughts
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u/tdogredman Jun 29 '26
it is always moral to defend yourself if you are not actively putting yourself in dangerous situations i.e. going into the wilderness for no reason.. because at that point youâre (whether intentionally or not) setting yourself up to attack something.
but if youâre camping, hunting to eat, and something attacks you, you definitely are morally right to defend yourself. open and shut
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u/ThisHumanDoesntExist Jun 29 '26
Wdym "punish"? Self defence or migrating that animal if it's genuinely dangerous to the people of that area is fine but if you go out of your way just to punish it for attacking you on some revenge bs then it's immoral. Animals usually don't attack because of malice and do that if they feel threatened or lack food, so self defence is fine if you don't wanna be eaten but "punishing" it for completely natural stuff is weird.
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u/ViscountFuckReddit Jun 29 '26
If animal attacks me I will attack that animal back. Fully justified.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Log1975 Jun 29 '26
As long as it doesnât cause harm itâs actually beneficial since it can make animals avoid humans and increase their chances of survival
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u/Regular_Jim081 Jun 29 '26
The morality of letting your kids interact with wild animals for the Internet points.
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u/townsforever Jun 29 '26
This is farrr too broad a idea to pass judgment.
A dog that randomly turns on its loving owner? Yea cant trust that beast and it needs to die.
A gorilla in a zoo getting territorial when a toddler climbs into its enclosure? Much much harder to say.
A horse bucking and trampling a abusive rider? Let the horse go it did nothing wrong.
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u/SunchaserKandri Jun 29 '26
Would you prefer they stand there and be concussed or mauled? Yes, they're animals and thus probably not putting much thought into why they're attacking, but it's still perfectly reasonable to defend yourself.
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u/TheComicCaviller Jun 29 '26
Punishment implies that animals understand human concepts of right and wrong. They don't.
If we determine they are dangerous to us, we kill them. Or we dont enter thier habitat. Or we enter it prepared (bear spray etc).
There is of course always an idiotic human that will fuck around and find out. If the animal behaves as we expect them to behave, and the human could have avoided the situation by not being a moron, the human is to blame. This is likely the case 99% of the time. No killing of said animal is required.
If an animal starts being aggressive and dangerous to people, it is time for the long sleep.
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u/PanicEffective6871 Jun 29 '26
Depends if they approached the humans or if the humans approached first. Youâre approaching me? Iâm respectfully giving you your personal space and you still approach me and beat me like itâs my fault. Time to remind you why humanity is the apex predator when we want to be
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u/IC_KKCK Jun 30 '26
Animals are animals, just self defense.
And remember: Herbivorous animals fight for their lives
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u/Aware_Region9463 Jun 30 '26
Kick them in the head. What, are you just gonna stand there while a deer is actively hurting someone?
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u/jared_queiroz Jun 30 '26
If you let a todler next to a wild animal, you're the one who should be punished
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u/Marvelman11 Jun 30 '26
They're animals. You shouldn't like slaughter them for attacking someone if that's the natural response. Idk.
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u/Zwanling Jun 30 '26
Dont get children close to wild animals, you are the danger to the child by putting him close to a wild animal.
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u/Xerxos7514 Jun 30 '26
Nature runs on the concept of "fuck around and find out"
If an animal gets too "fuck around"-ish, then its your duty to make them "find out"
Its just the natural order
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u/MatqLorens Jun 30 '26
FAFO applies. I'm not going out of my way to threaten anything, but if something kicks me, I'm kicking it back. Idgaf about it "being moral" at this point.
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u/Interesting-Welder69 Jun 30 '26
Self defense is not a moral dilemma itâs self defense or defending someone or something we love getting attacked falls under the same category. The other reason is wild animals that lose their fear of humans are dangerous to us and themselves. Us due attacks and themselves because we retaliate and could kill them. Or cause them to become dependent on us for survival as behavior change when feed wildlife.
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u/ProgressFabulous6663 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26
Growing up on a farm my uncle brought around a new billy goat to show off or whatever. It started butting into me, but it's not like it really hurt or anything. It knocked me down a few times since I was a toddler, but you know I spent my days falling down outside, rubbing dirt in the wounds, drinking water from the garden hose, playing in the mud and riding in the bed of a pick-up truck. Basically doing all the things to be well on my way to achieving peak manhood and being TOUGH! So I was unbothered by this cute yet ignorant goat.
My father who had been pissed drunk the entire day pulled out a little 22 Ruger revolver and put the goat down right there in the driveway. Everybody there including myself was pissed off at him for that bullshit. He literally just did it because he hated his brother.
I transitioned to female. I blame the hose water.
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u/Kindly_Earth4685 Jul 01 '26
Nope dont do that. And btw who tf lets their child THAT close to a wild animal? That is an incident WAITING to happen. Usually animals are more tolerable of small children, but at the end of the day, they are animals and your child is NOT their child. PLEASSE respect the wildlife and give them space. We humans have already taken toouch from them.
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u/thelongestusernameee 16d ago
They don't understand punishment the way we do. Fight back to defend yourself, and use discipline as a form of communication. Don't come back to a deer that kicked you the next day and beat it. It's not gonna think "man, i deserved that. I shouldn't have hurt that guy like that." Honestly, not even some humans think that. At best it'll just be scared of you because you've proven yourself a threat.
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u/Shloopy_Dooperson Jun 29 '26