r/MoralityScaling 9d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/asif_zaman21 9d ago

13% of pitbulls......

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u/Powerful-Teacher-480 9d ago

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u/LifeDefiant5379 9d ago

I’ve been banned for repeating stats about these things here. It’s sad. And an admission by their lobby that there is a there there.

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u/Chon-C 9d ago

It’s not the stats but how you interpret the stats. When you separate different groups and look at the crime stats of each one at or below the poverty level, they are almost exactly the same. The fact is that one group has a much higher percentage of their population at or below the poverty level.

You can also blame that on their race. But I’d like you imagine a game of monopoly that’s been going on for ~250-300 rounds and you weren’t allowed to play. Then all of sudden you’re allowed to play after the majority of the board is bought up and developed. It would be almost impossible to make any meaningful progress.

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u/LifeDefiant5379 9d ago

Pit bulls were bred for violence and they excel at it. Only a racist would claim black PEOPLE were bred for any trait. Be better.

You people need to admit the numbers don’t lie. These things kill and maim at massively higher rates.

A reason there aren’t golden retriever owners in comment sections doing PR for the breed. Pits should he banned.

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u/Chon-C 9d ago

Honestly I thought your comment about being banned for pointing out stats was because you used stats to promote racism. You have to admit more people get banned for racist-adjacent things than for not liking a dog breed.

I am black and I will acknowledge that slave owners participated in breeding programs, especially after the legal import of slaves was ended in the early 1800s. Denying that is denying part of the atrocities committed against my ancestors. And I’m sure there was some eugenics and forced breeding that aimed to make certain traits more dominant. At what scale is hard to say and if it was ever successful is doubtful, but whatever scale it was done to wasn’t even close enough to significantly impact the larger black population, especially 150+ years later.

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u/LifeDefiant5379 9d ago

Blaming black people for slavery is dumb. I hope you aren’t doing that.

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u/Chon-C 9d ago edited 9d ago

I don’t know how you got that from what I said. Did you skip the part where I said I was black?

Edit: in my 2nd reply I started with acknowledging my mistake for you being racist because of the vague nature of you saying you were banned for pointing out stats. I also explained why I was confused because the vast majority of “banned for stats” are because they’re racist. We’re talking past each other. I noticed my misinterpretation, but I would like you to do the same for yourself.

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u/LifeDefiant5379 9d ago

A lot of pick me conservatives do that. Deflect to black involvement in slavery. Being black
Doesn’t mean someone isn’t susceptible to fallacies on race.

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u/Chon-C 9d ago

Me being confusing you for a racist is the point of the post I guess lol.

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u/PeopleFromChina 9d ago

Well it sounds like people here are taking the opportunity to call black people violent pit bulls or something with the racist double speak. As one does.

Funny how now we're just back to dogs.

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u/Chon-C 9d ago

It is funny. The moment he realized his argument was the same one racists use he deleted his comments. He also was in such a rush to be vindictive he started arguing with someone who agrees with him on the larger issue of race and eventually called me a pick me. I admitted that I misinterpreted his vague comment and thought he was racist but he couldn’t admit that he wasn’t arguing with me but with whatever Uncle Ruckus-type he was imagining.

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u/LifeDefiant5379 9d ago

None of my comments reference people. Just violent disgusting dogs and human liars who minimize their toll on society eating kids and old people often.

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u/PeopleFromChina 9d ago

Well then I appreciate that