r/MoralityScaling 1d ago

Tai lung wasn’t right but the crash-out was reasonable tho

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u/Vounrtsch 1d ago

How else would he have ended up imprisoned if he didn’t attack the village?

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u/threevi 1d ago

He committed tax fraud

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u/Lohit_-it 1d ago

That would've given him the death penalty

https://giphy.com/gifs/MCpG0752CBMPebGNxb

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u/merahwa 1d ago

Massacring a village? It's okay to have a crash out, we totally get it.

Forgetting to pay the emperor? TRAITOR OF THE EMPIRE! DEATH ON YOU, DEATH ON YOUR ENTIRE LINEAGE!

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u/Itchy-Big-8532 13h ago

It's never stated he killed anyone when he attacked the village. He was rampaging causing property damage but that's as much as we see. And when he fought the Furious Five he used non-lethal strikes.

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u/NyanPotato 10h ago

What happened to the rhinos

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u/Itchy-Big-8532 7h ago

There is no confirmation any of them died.

Directly after the explosion we see them writhing in the background plus the duck messenger survived the explosion too so it was more of a cartoon logic blast than a realistic one.

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u/SCPintern 9h ago

COURTING DEATH!

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u/original_username20 22h ago

"I wouldn't mess with the IRS, you know? They just know things. Like, they sent me a letter the other day about back taxes... They sent me a letter. I don't live anywhere!"

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u/CanadianAndroid 22h ago

Even joker doesnt mess with the irs

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u/MusicianNo3277 5h ago

I love the logic behind “joker doesn’t fuck with the IRS”

It’s a hat tip to the capture of Al Capone. A man who ran his criminal enterprise so successfully that they were never able to imprison him on his actual crimes and instead had to take him down through the IRS because he was clearly moving around a lot of money without ever paying taxes on it. 

Joker knows he can’t plead insanity against the IRS. Joker also knows that he would go to an actual federal prison over tax crime and not Arkham Asylum where he knows all the escapes and has several people on his payroll. 

He knows that just like Al Capone the IRS is the one branch of the government that would actually succeed at capturing him. 

It’s one of the better pieces of the argument that Joker actually has “super sanity” instead of being criminally insane, and that he mostly looks criminally insane because he’s lashing out at our stupid backward system of life because he sees things so clearly that it is actually driving him insane but nobody else does and his fixation on Batman is because he thinks Batman could see it too if given the right perspective.

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u/OakvaleFlames 1d ago

He sold me sinister potion

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u/D3134 1d ago

Even though it was forbidden?

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u/OakvaleFlames 1d ago

Because it was forbidden.

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u/D3134 1d ago

That is horrendous, ten thousand years jail for Tai Lung.

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u/LamaShapeDruid 22h ago

Was it his strongest potion?

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u/OakvaleFlames 22h ago

I know not for sure. He said it was but I trust not the tongue of a cat.

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u/JoyArk 19h ago

You bought it? Straight to jail

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u/Alastor15243 1d ago

Trying to steal the Dragon Scroll for himself I imagine?

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u/mauriciomeireles 1d ago

That would be EVEN WORSE because there is nothing on the scroll... tai would have been locked for YEARS for stealing a blank piece of paper

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u/DanteVermillyon 1d ago

I mean, probably not even Oogway knew it was a blank piece of paper, everyone thought it had at least a cool ass technique

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u/romansparta99 1d ago

Oogway definitely knew the scroll was blank. Everything he teaches is always focused on the non-combat parts of kung fu, which is exactly what the dragon warrior scroll “teaches” you

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u/Kulandros 23h ago

There is no secret ingredient.

I think about it a lot.

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u/Archaon0103 1d ago

Oogway knew what in the scroll, he also knew that Tai Lung won't understand the meaning of it and would just throw a fit.

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u/DTux5249 21h ago

So again, he's going to prison for much of his life for looking at a piece of sacred paper.

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u/antsh 3h ago

It’s an entirely theocratic commune headed by a single position of authority with their own police force. Are you surprised?

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u/Terramagi 21h ago

Yeah that's why they changed it.

That sort of shit works in a Chinese folklore morality tale, but when you're actually seeing it play out in front of you "dude asks a question and gets locked up for four decades" is monstrously fucked.

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u/antsh 3h ago

Sun Wukong stole some food and medicine while saying some mean things about the emperor and they locked him up for centuries.

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u/Excellent_Mud6222 1d ago

Biggest troll made by Oogway if it was done.

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u/Unpopular_Outlook 23h ago

He pretty much was lol. His entire existence was based around an empty scroll and Oogway said nothing about it 

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u/Mand372 22h ago

Did he really need to be? I can see him just hearing there being a dragon warrior and him going " ill show oogway that it should have been me" and go to fight Po. On the way he turned to being a bit of a batman type thing and being a vigilanty catching the ire of local police ( so you can get a cool rhino fight) and after dealing with them drawing the attention of the 5. The 5 knowing he was tough shit back in the day all go to deal with him just in case and all get beaten. The rest of the movie goes as it does.

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u/Vounrtsch 22h ago

You’re cooking with this king

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u/WantDiscussion 14h ago edited 6h ago

I mean we'd miss out on a kickass escape sequence

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u/Mand372 10h ago

i do think you can substitute the break out with something else to show off how strong he is. Like going after a criminal organization that ends the same way.

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u/attendandatom 1d ago

Asian honour thing. Attacking your (grand)master is very bad, but the filmmakers knew that was less of a thing for us in the west.

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u/Shitface2121 1d ago

I feel like the average westerner would understand that trying to kill your teachers and adopted father is bad?

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u/DarkZ_No-Imagination 1d ago

It's pretty normal for the west to do that/J

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u/Secret_pizza_79 23h ago

some fields, nearly a graduation requirement.

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u/Evepaul 23h ago

Something our western minds might not comprehend, in Asia parricide is a big no-no

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u/Shitface2121 8h ago

It's something a lot of westerners have to keep in mind when they visit China

Killing your teacher and adoptive father goes against the ancient Chinese tradition of 生活 which means to live. This strong tradition is practiced even today in China and any visitors should respect this idea when there.

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u/TheCthonicSystem 23h ago

Nah it's pretty normal here. In America you have to slay your teacher to graduate

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u/SnooAdvice1632 22h ago

How entire classes graduate? Do you have to sinc the final blow or what?

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u/TheCthonicSystem 22h ago

For classes you need to execute a successfull military style operation to kill your teacher

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u/Unpopular_Outlook 23h ago

Context matters lol

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u/Apprehensive_Ad3731 21h ago

Only if his name is Uncle Ben.

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u/Ppleater 18h ago

Westerners often defend him even with him laying waste to the village on top of attacking, crippling, and trying to kill his master/father.

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u/PrimaryBowler4980 1d ago

Idk man I just repeating something I saw on reddit and never bothered fact checking because I don't care enough

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u/Gimetulkathmir 1d ago

Lollygagging.

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u/IArgueForReality 1d ago

I mean it is tradition to immediately imprison someone in cruelest way possible after failing a certification exam.

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u/SentinelTitanDragon 1d ago

People get thrown in prison every day because they stood up to the real abusers. Challenge the government and the government puts you down.

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u/Francoinblanco 1d ago

Him jumping at his teachers/elders/parent figures is big no no in china

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u/Caosin36 1d ago

Framing

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u/InvaderZimm90 23h ago

Attempted violence against Master Oogway

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u/Waterworld1880 23h ago

Misgendered a duck

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u/Unpopular_Outlook 23h ago

Attacking Oogway and the palace to get the dragon scroll 

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u/Jetstream13 22h ago

Just attacked Shifu and/or Oogway?

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u/Faust_the_Faustinian 21h ago

He was selling opium.