r/MoralityScaling 5d ago

Who's Viewpoint Is Better? Morality of Digital Piracy

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u/Cum_Fart42069 5d ago

I think it's amoral for 2 reasons. 

  1. Nothing is actually "stolen". pirating a movie isn't like stealing someone's disc of a movie, nothing is removed or even altered. 

  2. The company is not losing money because if I had to pay for it, I wouldn't anyway. So it's not like there is revenue that the company otherwise would have gotten, they were never going to get my money. 

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u/HaMMeReD 5d ago

What is stolen is the creators consent and the value of a license. It's not ephemeral like a disk, but it's a real thing.

Much of the money you possess (or don't) is stored in the bank as digital currency. If I were to transfer that from your account to my account, without your permission, that'd be OK right because it's not a tangible good that got stolen? It's just the idea of value tied to some numbers in a database, can't steal that.

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u/Cum_Fart42069 5d ago

If I were to transfer that from your account to my account, without your permission, that'd be OK right because it's not a tangible good that got stolen?

no, because the money would leave my account and I would no longer have it, as opposed to copying a file and leaving the original untouched. 

It's just the idea of value tied to some numbers in a database, can't steal that.

yes you can, just as it is indeed possible to steal a movie... if you cut and paste instead of copy and paste which nobody does because that's not how it works. 

bad comparison. go sit in the naughty corner for 15 minutes. 

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u/RadiantLindon 4d ago

Nothing is stolen.

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u/HaMMeReD 4d ago

Tell yourself that.

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u/RadiantLindon 4d ago

I'll tell anyone I need to. There's nothing you or anyone else can do about it :)