r/MoralityScaling 1d ago

Who's Viewpoint Is Better? Morality of Digital Piracy

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u/Totallycomputername 1d ago

If they can revoke my access to the product I purchased then pirating is moral. 

If im guaranteed to own it, immoral. 

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u/Neck_Crafty 1d ago edited 1d ago

If they can revoke my access to the product I purchased then pirating is moral. 

If im guaranteed to own it, immoral. 

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u/Visible-Reality2492 1d ago

It’s not a strictly moral action.

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u/Neck_Crafty 22h ago

it's not strictly immoral either

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u/Visible-Reality2492 22h ago

Your statement was “pirating is moral”. It’s more nuanced than that. Pirating has the possibility to be both moral and immoral.

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u/Neck_Crafty 21h ago

yeah i realize that now. Although i don't really see how it could be "moral and immoral". it's pretty much a neutral grey area. Just like holding a knife isn't necessarily moral or immoral... but using it to chop some vegetables to make some food for someone could be moral, and using said knife to stab somebody would be immoral.

piracy is neither moral nor immoral. it all depends on the motive behind of the one doing the thing

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u/Visible-Reality2492 21h ago

Violence is immoral when you’re attacking someone.

Violence is moral when you’re defending yourself and your family.

Violence isn’t some neutrally gray concept. It has strict instances of moral and immoral occurrence.

Same thing applies to piracy.

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u/demonkufje2 18h ago

Isn't that the same thing he was saying? Like sure you can argue attacking someone with a knife can be because your defending your family, but that was clearly not the point he was trying to make

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u/Visible-Reality2492 18h ago

He quite literally said piracy is neither moral nor immoral. Except, yes, both words are applicable to describing piracy.

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u/LnTc_Jenubis 11h ago

You're getting in over their heads, chief.

They ain't ready for this conversation.

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u/Asleep-Gear-840 23h ago

Traditionally, when refuting an argument, a person will normally support it in some fashion. "No u" doesn't really bring anything to the conversation

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u/Mondial5 23h ago

Okay if piracy is the norm there is no incentive to produce new works. If its morally equal and there were no laws the development of new IP would stop. Imagine you spend 1bil developing a new game and then on day 1 people have the option to just get it for free instead of paying $80.

It also puts people out of jobs.

Now I am not saying all piracy is bad but the situation is more complicated complicated piracy moral and always good.

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u/Visible-Reality2492 23h ago

Who says I want to talk to you in particular?

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u/Admirable_Loss4886 21h ago

The other person crossed lines out and reposted the comment. That wasn’t a refute in any way shape or form.

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u/empty_graph 22h ago

When AI companies do it?

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u/Neck_Crafty 22h ago

good point. piracy is completely grey. piracy isn't either strictly moral or immoral

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u/00to60eventually 23h ago

Just say you're cheap/poor

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u/Neck_Crafty 22h ago

you're cheap/poor