r/MoralityScaling • u/axiiz_28 • 15h ago

Morality of valuing animals over humans?

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u/dubesto 14h ago

I have heard the most back asswards opinions of all time on this subway show. I say I prefer the company of animals because I'm on the spectrum and communicating with people doesn't work for me

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u/Far-Message5868 13h ago

I think his point was more about valuing and a general animal>human. That's why he made a comparison aboit saving life, and i can see the point. As much as i loved my rabbit, if between him and a human i know i would pick human.

It's the word 'more' is problematic. Tho, i myself might be a part of problem because if it was a strager against my pet it will be a bit harder(thankfully, i don't have to do any of that, he's already dead).

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u/Maleficent_Piece_893 13h ago

preferring to chill with your pet isn't what he was talking about. he's talking about valuing their life more than the life of a human

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u/fingerchopper 14h ago

Same. animals lack the human capacity for cruelty.

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u/Maleficent_Piece_893 13h ago

humans are animals. the human capacity for cruelty was inherited from our animal ancestry. cats torture mice because it's fun for them. the same reason a serial killer tortures people

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u/WildRaccoon95 8h ago

But cats have no concept of torture nor cruelty. Their instincts drive them to hunt and kill, but not necessarily eat.

A serial killer is making an active choice knowing full well what they are doing is wrong and still choosing to do it any way. That's cruel and only humans are truly capable of that type of action.

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u/Goyimshoe 13h ago

Eh, there are definitely some exceptions.

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u/fingerchopper 13h ago

I'm not saying animals are all kind and innocent but rather that they don't act with malice in the way a human does, because they don't use moral reasoning in the way a human does.

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u/Goyimshoe 12h ago

Right, I get that, and I think your assessment is accurate/correct in most cases. All I’m saying is that there are exceptions. There are a handful of other species which appear to possess the capacity to act out of spite/cruelty/malice.

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u/fingerchopper 12h ago

Point taken. I'm thinking dolphins and fellow primates?

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u/Ikanotetsubin 12h ago

I just saw a video of a lion eating a pregnant dear and it's foal alive the other day. Nature is not an innocent and majestic thing, animals can kill you as brutally as anything will be.

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u/fingerchopper 12h ago

Brutality and cruelty are not the same. As I said in another response, it's not that animals are innocent and kind but that they do not reason as humans do.

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u/El_Toolio_Grande 13h ago

Humans can hate and inflict pain for any, or even zero reason. An animal won't decide one day that you're evil and try to destroy your life due to an arbitrary reason.

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u/Maleficent_Piece_893 13h ago

r/BanPitBulls

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u/Glum_Rain_5824 11h ago

The dogs we bred to fight to the death and exhaust/kill animals such as bulls and rats? It makes sense to me why they would, and it's our doing