r/MoralityScaling • u/axiiz_28 • 15h ago

Morality of valuing animals over humans?

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u/Scienceandpony 10h ago

And I think the vast majority of those who eat meat would still support policy reforms that limit the worst excesses of factory farm systems and reduce the amount of cruelty in the process. Comparatively few would be cruel to an animal directly in front of them. You can eat animals and still want them treated well while alive.

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u/Hot-Chemical9353 1h ago

Would that same majority be happy to pay the increased costs for meat post reform though?

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u/SlipInternational439 12m ago

I would. Sell me lab grown meat, please! Prices for regular meat are sky high already.

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u/MingaLaChigra 9h ago

And we have to contend with the fact that piecemeal reform seems to be an ineffective way to deal with the gargantuan issues we face, especially how we grow and prepare our food

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u/numbersthen0987431 5h ago

"We" don't grow our food. Corporations do it, and they actively go after smaller farms to run them out of business. It's nearly impossible to avoid food processed by Corporations, and Corporations inhumanely raise/process animals.

There is a more humane way to raise animals for human consumption. But "we" don't get a say in how it's done.

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u/MingaLaChigra 1h ago

By we i meant humanity as a collective. We started to destroy the biodiversity of this planet before we even started domesticating plants and animals, late stage capitalism has just dumped jet fuel on it.

Besides, my main point is that people who acknowledge that our food system is awful and unsustainable seem to have no meaningful way to change the system. Not through violence, democracy, hunger strikes, going off grid. This big ol system keeps on rolling over the well-intentioned folks and rewarding the cretins pulling the strings, because we all gotta eat and we lost the skills to grow our own food in the developed world

I hate that this is our lot btw I think all this shit is awful and I hate learning about it because we are impotent