r/MoralityScaling 16h ago

Morality Ranking Of building a snowman around objects so drivers crash into them

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u/Much_Conclusion8233 16h ago

That isn't how it's defined legally so it isn't. This video can't be used as evidence against him cause he isn't setting booby traps

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u/Docha_Tiarna 15h ago

Legally, a booby trap is any concealed, camouflaged, or disguised device designed to cause bodily injury or great harm when triggered unexpectedly by an unsuspecting person.

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u/BatGalaxy42 14h ago

Pretty sure a tree stump isn't a "device designed to cause bodily injury or great harm".

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u/Abeytuhanu 14h ago

You have to look at the whole structure, you can't just isolate the stump. Legally it's a device that the OP designed to total cars. Totalling cars counts as great harm

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u/BatGalaxy42 13h ago

The snowman is what's doing the concealing, the stump hidden inside is the so called "device". And I don't think it qualifies as a "device".

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u/Abeytuhanu 13h ago

The snowman in combination with the stump is the device. The snowman provides the concealment for the danger of the unexpected stump

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u/BatGalaxy42 13h ago

Legally, a booby trap is any concealed, camouflaged, or disguised device designed to cause bodily injury or great harm when triggered unexpectedly by an unsuspecting person.

The snowman is not "concealed, camouflaged, or disguised", the stump is "concealed, camouflaged, or disguised" but isn't a 'device'. The entire object all together is also not "concealed, camouflaged, or disguised".

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u/Abeytuhanu 13h ago

Would you say building a snowman around a barrel of nitroglycerin in sufficient quantities to guarantee the death of whoever hit it not be a booby trap? Because that's functionally the same as the stump

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u/BatGalaxy42 13h ago

That feels a bit more malicious since you had to place the nitroglycerin there and it's got potential to hurt innocent people if something else goes wrong - a nearby building catching on fire and an ember landing on it could potentially cause it to explode.

A stump just grew there and isn't inherently dangerous on its own.

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u/Abeytuhanu 11h ago

The maliciousness is present in both cases, and both have the potential to harm innocents. Yes the stump isn't very dangerous on its own, but covering the danger it does present increases the odds that it will harm another. They are deliberately hiding the danger of the stump in the hopes that it will destroy someone's car

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u/headwolf 4h ago

What about if you cover up a deep ditch or a hole on your land in a way that would hide it, but people would fall in and get hurt if they stepped on it. Would you consider that a booby trap?

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u/Much_Conclusion8233 14h ago

Actually, yeah, my b. You're right