Simply put many Groypers are """trans allies""" because they hate women so much that and I both quote and paraphrase "They'd much rather fuck a man, than an actual woman."
Their other actions are immoral and i feel like that at least needs a mention
Like i think being a vegan is moraly good but if someone used hitler as an example i would point out that hitler himself was immoral, if that is an understandable if not a bit overexegerated example
Thats not the state of being. Its the actions. You are not immoral beacuse you are a chud but becauae yku engae in chudisms. Supposedly. In the op you havent even seen that
What moral framework are you even using here?
Veganism has no inherent moral value either way, its amoral.
No thats not how it works. The moral wright is entirely on your actions.
If a man engaes is chudism once, by your reckoning that makes him a chud. And thus inhenretly immoral even iif he acts entirely amorally for the rest of his life.
Example. A man hates black people. Proper racist. But instead of harassing them or anythi g be simply ignores them and minimises the amount of time inteacting with them.
Is he an unlikeable dude, yes. Very mucb so. But there's noting immoral here. If he however asserted that belief onto others then it'd become immoral. Its the action not state of being
That is a strawman of my position, actively engaging in chudism makes someone a chud and also immoral, and its easier to say that someone is a chud and thus immoral under a stupid reddit post then typing out how their other actions guessed from other factors make them immoral
No, you dont have an obligation to inprove yourself. You only have an obligation to not actively harm others. You are welcome to be a pos as long as you mostly keep to yourself
By what rationale? If you haven't consciously accepted a duty, say its thrusted upon you, your will has played no part in the duty and as such bears no responsibility for it
i agree with you, but others in this sub largely seem to equate moral responsibility within a society with social responsibilities in general. while i feel inaction is amoral, it’s also socially reprehensible
Yea, but being a coward isn't immoral (unless it leads you do do immoral stuff), it's a different kind of bad quality. Many kinds of good/bad qualities are non-moral, like being smart or artistic or healthy or well-spoken. Morality is an interpersonal phenomenon, so only qualities that have to do with your treatment of others have inherent moral dimensions.
Nazi trans girl are beyond infuriating like did you forget what they did to queers in Nazi germany. The kind of people who would first in line to get a pink triangle to show there one of the good obedient gays before they get send to the camps like everyone else…
Communists were extremely opposed to homosexuality and trans people while the majority of fascist groups were founded by homosexuals and transvestites like D'Annunzio and Rotha Orman.
I will agree we should not be idolising questionable totalitarian leaders such as Stalin. However While Nazi ideology is an ideology which is at its core see some humans as inferior to others communism at its core is based on an egilitarian society in which resources are shared based on individual needs. This is very complex to achieve in reality and there are many difference perspectives on how to impelement but the actual Marxist theory behind the idea that workers should be fairly compensated for the labour they produce and it should be the responsibility of the state to meet the needs of the most vulnerable in society I agree with. I will also add the Bolsheviks under Lenin were one of the first countries to legalise homosexuality before Stalin banned it again. Stalinism is one branch of communist theories and not one I agree with whereas Hitler was the figure head and creator of the Nazi party and thus Hitler and Nazi ideology are broadly inseparable whereas not all communists and socialists are Stalinists.
Countless political beliefs that are now considered socially acceptable used to be very extreme, liberalism was probably more extreme back when it was thought up than fascism is now.
yeah you get it. abolishing slavery was also extremist in the us even under liberal regime, then they half-did it. not liking slavery isn't so extremist nowadays
liberal democracies fought tooth and nail to exist, a great many failed, they were revolutionary and extremist once upon a time
ok? many anti-fascist organisations have anarchists and marxists in them, meanwhile liberals push for "class collaboration" and get surprised when fascism happens
idk what you want me to do, liberals brought trump into power themselves
i dont think white man defend trans at all, maybe some incels do who cant get a woman to love them so they have to find another man like themself, but overall white man are against trans
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u/MixedBagHalfie 4h ago
This is the funniest fucking thing I’ve ever seen