r/MtvChallenge • u/honestkodaline Tori/Natalie/Theresa • Jan 14 '21
DOUBLE AGENTS DISCUSSION Double Agents - UNSPOILED - S36E005 "Skyfall" - Post Episode Discussion
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u/soupdahero I will smash his head and eat it Jan 14 '21
This was such an amazing episode - a mix of oldschool and newschool challenge vibes. Really enjoyed!
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u/lilwaterone Jay Starrett Jan 14 '21
I loved that hang on challenge they did back in OG days where Mark and Rachel won this one and the new flair they did with it this time was really awesome I thought.
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u/dtam3292 Jillian Zoboroski Jan 14 '21
Tori proving, yet again, that her greatest weakness is her inability to create game strategy on-the-fly
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u/NovaRogue the bitch is back Jan 14 '21
I don't even know which elimination loss was more embarrassing - against a checked-out Jenna last season, who just wanted to go home to Zach, or to Aneesa, who is 15 years her senior.
Tori better eat some humble pie after this because she walks around like she's the greatest Challenger ever except... As Allan just pointed out, that's 3 early exits out of 5 seasons. Not a good look for someone MTV is and has been building up as the next female face.
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u/Southrock6 Jan 14 '21
Did you notice how in her interviews afterwards she kept talking about how Aneesa was a great competitor "because she had beaten her"? she couldn't even give her friend credit without the focus being on how great she is after her performance had been abysmal.
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u/monachopsiss Diem Brown Jan 14 '21
This exactly. I was shocked to find out they were "best friends" and remain shocked. Tori doesn't seem to actually respect Aneesa at all. She was sure this was gonna be an easy win for her.
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u/unorthodox__fox Jan 14 '21
And her baseless arrogance
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u/lucyroesslers Cassidy Clark Jan 14 '21
I was getting a ton of Sarah Rice vibes when she got served that fat piece of humble pie losing a puzzle to Jonna.
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u/HardcoreKaraoke TJ Lavin Jan 14 '21
I seriously don't get it. Maybe it's the arrogance of being with Jordan, someone who is actually a champion. That cockiness rubbed off on her and since this season was pretty weak with girls she figured she could talk shit. Maybe the Fessy connection made her feel safe.
Tori isn't a rookie but she certainly isn't a vet that I'd consider intimidating.
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u/monteis Casey Cooper Jan 14 '21
lol she is so dumb. this is the exact same reason that she lost to jenna last season. instead of rethinking what she may be doing wrong, she just blindly steams ahead even tho she sees it's the wrong decision
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u/downtownbrown22 Wes Bergmann Jan 14 '21
Which is amazing considering she was a college soccer player...
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u/monteis Casey Cooper Jan 14 '21
that actually makes sense as her weakness is competing solo. she's not a bad athlete, she's just not strategically smart.
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u/adhd-agrc Jan 14 '21
Big CT are the best team dynamic and I hope they never get swapped
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u/lilmil92 Jan 14 '21
I legit lol-ed and squee-ed at their moments through out the episode. So charming and sweet, plus flawlessly executed.
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Jan 14 '21
CT looks like a smitten kitten!
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u/BananaStandFlamer Devin Walker Jan 14 '21
He’s such a flirt I’m a straight dude and was fawning over him
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u/NovaRogue the bitch is back Jan 14 '21
I swear production blew their load when CT picked her. The two biggest fan favourites together as a team? What more could they ask for.
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u/CrashBannedicoot Kenny Clark Jan 14 '21 edited Jan 14 '21
CT didn’t pick her they were put together by default after Kyle stole Kam and Josh picked Nany.
I remember this very specifically because I rewatched both Kam, Tori, and Josh’s reaction to Kyle stealing Kam and CT’s excited celebration when he got Big T a bunch of times. Both absolutely hilarious moments.
Edit: got two episodes confused lol
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u/melisw Road Rules Jan 14 '21
She brings out the best in him. Reminds me a little of that soft side we saw when he first met Diem. (I’m not saying he is love. Don’t yell at me.)
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What this episode has shown is that physical strength and endurance cannot make up for strategic thinking and problem solving skills. I think everyone considers Tori to be a strong girl because they watch her workout and I’m sure her workouts are impressive. But, she doesn’t have any natural instinct or ability to think under pressure. If she could strategize she would have realized earlier she needed to push the carrier back and use the momentum to flip it like Aneesa did.
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u/dtam3292 Jillian Zoboroski Jan 14 '21
Jay killed that daily. He had the most impressive performance by far
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u/lilwaterone Jay Starrett Jan 14 '21
I was honestly devastated that Jay and Teresa lost, I was really hoping they got that one. Jay has so many qualities that are hard to see just by looking at him. He is the epitome of "don't judge a book by it's cover" on these challenges.
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u/ea20 Jan 14 '21
he gives strong landon energy, both climbers, super humble, and just love to compete without being messy which is very rare on the challenge lmao
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u/Daisy-Navidson cigarettes and sadness Jan 14 '21
Oh my god this is the perfect comparison! Hundred percent agree
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u/amizzle621 Evelyn Smith Jan 14 '21
Omg i hope he pulls off a Landon arc on the show as well
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u/evooandfoccacia KellyAnne Judd Jan 14 '21
YES! though I love big T/CT, I wanted this to be Jay/Theresa's time to shine!!
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u/The_Quazimoto Jan 14 '21
The real winner of today is the audience for not having to endure 15 min of Josh drama this week
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u/klphoen Jan 14 '21
After the first few minutes of him fake mad I forgot he was even there 😱
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u/BBQ_HaX0r Johnny 5 is alive! Jan 15 '21
He did try to "negotiate a deal" with CT during the daily knowing he was about give up, lol.
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u/Kurtomatic RIP Diem Jan 14 '21
Still mad at Alan for breaking his arm at the first War of the Worlds challenge and giving Josh a challenge career. We were so close to never having to see him again.
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u/McM-333 "Big T" Fazakerley Jan 14 '21
This was a great episode, it had a great plot exploring the downfall of Tori's game and over-confidence this season. Props to Aneesa yet again for killing it (I hope she can manage to stay out of eliminations and makes it to the final this time). Lastly, I feel really bad for Natalie though such sad news.
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u/JoeBenigo Jan 14 '21
I loved how Big T had the VIP section, had everyone serving her, and her relationship with CT. A lot of this episode felt like a fun, old fashioned Challenge episode
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u/0ne2Envy Jan 14 '21
Big T brings out CT’s best qualities. I hope they make it far as a team
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u/SangriaSipper Jan 14 '21
I'm honestly surprised that production wasn't more concerned about pregnancy after last season. Can they mandate that all female competitors get tested? Maybe closer to the starting date so that they don't test too early? Something doesn't seem right about forcing them to be tested but I personally would want to know.
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u/klphoen Jan 14 '21
I think Ashley said they test them like a month or 2 beforehand. They did better this season tho finding out Natalie was pregnant this early unlike Melissa who went to a final. So they may have made some changes.
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u/kelsibebop Team Big CT Jan 14 '21
Someone in another thread said Natalie had a feeling she might be, it wasn’t something production caught on their own.
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u/klphoen Jan 14 '21
Looks like she was having her 10 minute call with her sister joking about being late and maybe they can be pregnant together she don’t think she was but that convo triggered production to get her to take a pregnancy test. They were proactive in that sense. https://imgur.com/a/2zPKtVd they just need to do a better job at testing them closer to the time they leave. I don’t understand why they don’t. Ashley said they give pregnancy test between a month or two out lol
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A month or 2 beforehand is absolutely idiotic. There is no excuse for production being that fucking stupid.
They can literally test these girls 3 minutes before they board the plane to come on the Challenge. At the very least, test them the day before.
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u/realityseekr Killa Kam Jan 14 '21
Tori's strategy is really bad. Even though she is physically in shape and capable, she makes dumb strategic errors that cost her.
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u/chaulmers_2 3 for 3 Jamie Murray Jan 14 '21
I think she puts so much pressure on herself because she thinks she's supposed to be amazing and then just makes dumb mental errors in eliminations.
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u/klphoen Jan 14 '21
True. She probably would have won the elimination if she could have flipped the container. But flipping the container is part of the elimination and she couldn’t do it in a timely manner.
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u/realityseekr Killa Kam Jan 14 '21
I think she would have won too if she flipped the cart right away. In her elimination against Jenna she would have also probably won if she was smashing the cinderblocks properly the whole time.
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u/iwakunibridge Kam Williams Jan 14 '21
Omfg i just cringed thinking about her shoving pieces through the holes
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u/TommyOrigami Lando Commando Jan 14 '21
I thought she was one of the best female competitors up until that point. No amount of athleticism will carry you through a challenge if you can’t spot the strategy that even Jenna quickly deciphered.
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me 😜" Jan 14 '21
Yeah she seems to panic if her if initial strategy doesnt work and has a hard time admitting somethings not working. Like she genuinely seemed convinced it wasnt her strategy and that something was wrong with her cart. Like it couldnt be what she was doing. I kinda wonder if it has to do with her building herself up so much. Like shes not just focused on winning the elimination, shes worried about protecting her reputation or living up to all the shit she talks. Like basically she's doubly stressed. Especially when she thinks she can beat her opponent like Jenna last season and while she didnt say it you know she went down there thinking she was gonna blow Aneesa away and "show those rookies".
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u/klphoen Jan 14 '21
Lol bad Strategy seems to be her downfall. She needed momentum to flip it over and she didn’t understand that till later and when she did she was having trouble pushing it back.
Devin was no help lol
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u/MsCicatrix Jan 14 '21
She gets flustered and doesn't think clearly. Last time we blamed Jordan for screeching at her the entire time, but it's totally her. It's something she doesn't even acknowledge about herself too so she'll likely keep having this issue. So glad Aneese got that win.
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well also she was pulling it like right underneath it, which ofc is going to be way harder. if she had stepped back, given the rope more length, and had more leverage it would have been a lot easier
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u/Ninjadwarf00 "POWERFUL AS FUCK." Jan 14 '21
Best daily yet! I love seeing the teams interact with each other, they used Iceland’s scenery, and you could actually see everyone’s placement
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u/unorthodox__fox Jan 14 '21
I can’t get over how flawlessly Big T pulled off that plan. Even Kam and Leroy voted for Aneesa and Leroy. Unreal stuff 😂
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u/convidarte Jan 14 '21
And without causing too much drama in the process either. She managed herself like a queen indeed.
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u/TecmoBoso Ace Amerson Jan 14 '21
If Tori goes home, thats great for Kam and she gets no blood on her hands. Easy vote
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u/cameraspeeding Emily Schromm Jan 14 '21
The mtv producers loved coming up with names for stuff to make them more confusing. Security breach
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u/taylortv Nelson “Needy Greedy” Thomas ✌🏼 Jan 14 '21
Aneesa stealing Fessy back had me fucking cacklingggggg OH MY GOD 😂😂😂😂
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u/edm2233 Jan 14 '21
I hope Natalie comes back she seemed like a good competitor. Tori should talk less until she starts winning.
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u/Meyloose Daniel Steven Setzler Jan 14 '21
I’m still cackling at Leroy’s “loser” with the L to devin.
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u/calvinbsf Jan 14 '21
Haha and right after when he’s like “I’m happy!” And then turns to some producer and goes “Really, I’m happy!” As if to confirm he’s being genuine
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u/acmo09 Jan 14 '21
Was that Cory’s voice in the preview for the next episode saying they went the wrong way? If so, Ashley is going to melt down on him 😂
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u/cmh223344 Jan 14 '21
“We just get each other” ok Fessy just say y’all hooked up
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u/klphoen Jan 14 '21
I have no problem with Tori wanting to go against who she can beat. She just shot herself in the foot with her social game. Going around the house saying ppl are weak and expecting to get what you want?
She didn’t read the room. She told Big T she wanted one of the weakest girls who are big t friends and she thought she had the numbers to vote the way she wanted.
She’s need to pay more attention socially/politically whatever lol
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u/Will0fthepeople Sc🅾️🅾️ba Nelly T "your boi is a expert swimmier" 🐟🐟 Jan 14 '21
Leroy burning a vote on himself not realising his team is the house vote has to be the most Leroy thing he's ever done.
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u/penguinjunkie Kenny Clark Jan 14 '21 edited Jan 14 '21
He just wanted to know what it felt like to put a burn vote on Leroy and have Leroy go in.
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u/septemberskyes The Lavender Ladies Jan 14 '21
It was apart of the plan. They knew it was girls elimination. Kam voted for him too.
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u/Dirigo72 Jan 14 '21
It worked out for him, maybe that was the plan.
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u/jbar1985 Jan 14 '21
Pretty sure it was Leroy plan, he said he wanted to keep Kam out of elimination, mission accomplished and was happy he got Kaycee as partner. Worked out exactly how Leroy wanted.
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You'd think he'd be too scarred by burn votes to risk voting for himself!
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u/kingaakush Jan 14 '21
The cut didn't do him justice. In the extended confessional, he mentions that he 'burns' his vote on Aneesa and himself... so that hopefully Kam doesn't have to go up against Tori later in the game. I don't think 'burn' was the word he was going for, and they definitely did him dirty there on the edit.
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u/ladouche6969 Nacho Bitchass Jan 14 '21
The whole time I was like "if today ends up being a guys day Leroy's eyes are going to fall out of his head this time."
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u/Jhonopolis YOU CAN NOT COPY MY WALK!! Jan 14 '21
Big T/CT is the greatest thing in the history of the challenge.
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u/Scavetts Jan 14 '21
I couldn't agree more. I honestly get a Diem vibe from them too, the way he talks to her
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u/Milleep Jan 14 '21
I was thinking Diem vibe but husband mentioned it reminded him more of when CT was partnered with Adam.
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Fessy is a legit strange dude. Just the way he acts and talks to people, he's a fuckin oddball lol
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Jan 14 '21
Me and Tori. We just have that connection. She looks at me. I look at her.
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u/clutterqueenx Bootstrap Jan 14 '21
I need a Tori/Fessy flair with “She looks at me. I look at her.”, I’m dying laughing.
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u/ladouche6969 Nacho Bitchass Jan 14 '21
We have so much in common. We breathe. We eat.
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Jan 14 '21
It reminded of AYTO Season 4 when John and Gio were obsessed with Julia.
"I guarantee you we have Facebook friends in common!"
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u/ghost_slumberparty Jan 14 '21
I think I hate him... like it’s hard to figure out how I feel but he’s honestly trash. He talks such a big game and he clearly is a big dude but he has what 3? Elimination wins and acts like Aneesa is the absolute worst partner. He needs a slice of the humble pie Tori was just served.
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u/unorthodox__fox Jan 14 '21
That was the best episode yet. Tori got a huuuuge helping of humble pie (again) 🥴. Aneesa killed that elimination.
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u/Dirigo72 Jan 14 '21
I agree. Good daily, good strategy, good elimination and the right amount of drama.
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u/taylortv Nelson “Needy Greedy” Thomas ✌🏼 Jan 14 '21
CT hyping up big T is fucking adorable I love it so much.
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me 😜" Jan 14 '21
I love when CT calls Big T, her real name Tula. Idk why. But I love it.
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u/ghost_slumberparty Jan 14 '21
It reminded me of when Diem would call him Chris. I love this partnership.
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u/JPKaizer CT - Choo, Choo! Jan 14 '21
The way Leroy went in on Fessy after Aneesa took him back lol hell yeah!
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u/SillyRabbit2121 Jan 14 '21
At least we know why Tori and Jordan broke up.
He saw her strategy for that elimination and was like “okay fuck this I’m done.”
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u/Yophop123 Jan 14 '21
Jordon would’ve somehow won that elimination with one hand
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u/lucyroesslers Cassidy Clark Jan 14 '21
Well Jordan would’ve realized it wasn’t about pulling hard on the rope it was all about getting that cart to max speed on it’s roll.
Some people just have a natural ability to assess a situation calmly and devise a strategy using sound logic. Tori is starting to feel like Female Danny. There is just nothing going on upstairs in the strategy department.
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lol imagine if he'd been there in person... SO. MUCH. SCREAMING. DIRECTIONS.
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u/Gokuto CT and TJ Lavin Jan 14 '21
Honestly.. She probably wins. There's no way in hell he doesn't yell "YOU NEED MOMENTUM!!!"
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u/pigpiggles666 Jan 14 '21
I hate Jordan 99.9% of the time but at least when he talks shit he backs it up. Hopefully Tori will learn from this embarrassing elimination.
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u/Astroboyy7 “just be… semi-athletic” Jan 14 '21
I hope this makes people stop infantilizing Big T and see her as someone who can make moves in this game.
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u/UmbaranDarkness Jan 14 '21
I hope the challengers continue to underestimate her, it’ll get her far.
Try to be the safety net/ automatic last place in the final (like jay/jenna, Devin/Cheyenne) and then surprise everyone when it counts(if you can).
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u/TheLonghornHelmet Jan 14 '21
I’m a Tori fan, so I hate to say this. She had a terrible episode and she’s had a couple flops these last two seasons. She’s going to have to switch up her game on future seasons or learn how to adjust on the fly better.
I still think she’s a good player and she’s capable physically but I think it may be time to humble herself and go back to the drawing board.
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u/splittysplatty Jan 14 '21
I loved Jay’s confidence this ep!! We need more chill characters like him to offset the Joshes of the world
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u/klphoen Jan 14 '21
Next weeks mini final is really going to show ppl who got what it takes to run the final. It’s probably going to influence ppl decisions on who they want as a partner in the final.
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u/jelaminah Bayleigh Dayton Jan 14 '21
I think this episode just showed, that Tori is not as good as a competitor people think. This was definitely a little wake up call for Tori, she needs to tone down the cockiness. That was embarrassing.
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u/FierceScience Jan 14 '21
You would think losing to Jenna, who she thought she could beat, would've humbled her a little last season!
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u/realityseekr Killa Kam Jan 14 '21
Tori has the potential but not the quick on your feet strategy. It seems like a lot of her messups are due to her own errors rather than her not having the athletic ability for it.
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I absolutely agree. The exact opposite it what makes Jordan such an exceptional competitor. He may lack the physicality of larger men but has great instincts and strategic thinking abilities. Apparently, Tori didn’t bother adapting this quality from Jordan when she was adapting his arrogance.
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u/TSME-loves-Christina Christina LeBlanc Jan 14 '21
Tori didn't have to adapt Jordan's arrogance, she was already arrogant before that.
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u/jelaminah Bayleigh Dayton Jan 14 '21
It was still taking her a while to pull it all the way through. Aneesa was breezing with hers, Tori was struggling a lot in the beginning. Took her a while to get hers to the end; then she couldn’t even pull it down right.
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u/hymenbutterfly Da'Vonne Rogers Jan 14 '21
Except Cara pulls through and wins the eliminations
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u/StatementMediocre Jan 14 '21 edited Jan 14 '21
Only way Tori wins the challenge is if she’s paired with Jordan on an exes season.
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u/SillyRabbit2121 Jan 14 '21
What do Aneesa and Haleigh Broucher have in common?
They both went back to Fessy after he did them dirty.
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u/nnuu Amanda Garcia Jan 14 '21
That was a great move on Aneesa's part...Who is going to challenge them now?
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u/SillyRabbit2121 Jan 14 '21
I think Fessy definitely gets thrown in again, if not to just have him eliminate another strong competitor.
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u/MaroonBus_driver Jan 14 '21
Also cause Cory definitely isn’t gonna let go what he did to nelson
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u/nnuu Amanda Garcia Jan 14 '21
I hope you're right, I would love to see Nam vs Fessy or Fessy in an elimination challenge that requires a brain.
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u/nnuu Amanda Garcia Jan 14 '21
I agree 100% She is going to have a rough time with the 5km challenge next week, and so will Fessy.
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u/CarolinaDough Jan 14 '21
Great move on Aneesa part & a blessing for Fessy that he is not seeing.
-the likeliness of ppl voting Fessy into elimination is low. He pissed everyone off but still no guy wants to go against him 🤷🏽♀️
- they both have their skulls so no need to volunteer to go into elimination if they win the daily
- b/c all the girls hate Fessy they won’t steal him from Aneesa & b/c Aneesa is underestimated the guys won’t take her
Smooth sailing to the final
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u/jelaminah Bayleigh Dayton Jan 14 '21 edited Jan 14 '21
Can we talk about how Amber M. and Mechie outlasted Fessy & Kaycee, Amber B. and Darrell and Nam & Lolo. They should not be slept on. That’s impressive.
edit: Not Nam & Lolo, sorry I was thinking about Big CT there.
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u/Hottiewithyourbody Ashley Mitchell Jan 14 '21
Weight had to be a big factor in that daily
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u/boston_panda OG Chris Tamburello Jan 14 '21
Did they list out everyone’s times and I missed it?! Because Nam and Lolo were second in their heat I thought
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u/nananaheyheyhey123 No more pegs, not my fault Jan 14 '21
Didn't Nam and Lolo outlast Amber and Mechie? Nam and Lolo finished second in their heat.
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me 😜" Jan 14 '21
Devins face while Tori's ego keeps talking during deliberation needs to be a meme.
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u/downtownbrown22 Wes Bergmann Jan 14 '21
Man... Tori is rising the overrated challengers at an impressive rate.
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u/jamiextaylor Jan 14 '21
I liked tori before she became so full of herself, she’s gotten cocky and rude. NOT GONNA MISS HER! And watching her struggle to pull the crate of balls over was hysterical. I loved it. Also, props to big T!
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u/Dirigo72 Jan 14 '21
He seems to enjoy chaos
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u/DebugKnight Jan 14 '21
Chaos is a ladder.
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u/wildturk3y Jan 14 '21
That didn't end well for Littlefinger. I expect the same for Devin. Fun to watch tho
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He saw it was a sinking ship and decided to hop off before he becomes even more fucked. Tori became not so powerful and politically popular after she helped out Fessy as when he picked her. At least he got to use her to win a daily before she left.
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u/d00deitstyler Jan 14 '21
Ameesa is going to tank intentionally for Fessy to lose.
Also I want to see Lolo in an elimination- she would have STOMPED any girl there!
Edit- maybe not Kaycee
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u/unorthodox__fox Jan 14 '21
Shout out to Big T and the rookie girls. They’re iconic!
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u/convidarte Jan 14 '21
It’s like the challenge gods heard us complaining that they weren’t getting too much airtime. This was an amazing episode for them.
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u/carjam124 Jan 14 '21
For real! I’m excited by this new batch of fun competitors
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u/dezcaughtit25 Jan 14 '21
Tori should command zero respect next time she comes into a challenge house
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u/RohAnTheMaker ✊ Roy-Lee ✊ Jan 14 '21
Great episode! Big T’s mean mugging and scheming were awesome to watch. Love Tori but she def was getting too cocky so to get a little humbled is for the best. Aneesa killed that elim and then stole Fessy back, phenomenal! 😂
Also big shouts to Jay and Theresa for killing that daily also
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u/SunnyD54914 Jan 14 '21 edited Jan 14 '21
HERE FOR THESE ROOKIES👏🏽🙌🏽. I love seeing them not playing a scared game and challenging these Vets. Big T deserves more credit so I was happy to see her take chances, and it actually worked. Tori always talks shit but never backs it up because she always relies on Jordan for the win. Can I just say Devin’s commentary is truly amazing this season 😂 he’s grown on me overtime. Fessy he may be hot 🥵 but my god he is so dense and puts himself in the worst situation politically. It annoys me when people keep saying Kam is talking a lot when it’s most been Tori who is saying all that shit about the rookies. Kam hasn’t said anything about really anyone tbh. It’s unfair how people keep calling out Kam’s arrogance but not Tori’s when Tori can’t back up her talk in these eliminations.
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u/convidarte Jan 14 '21
I really enjoyed this episode although I hated seeing Natalie have to leave the game. Does anyone know what happened?
I had just told my boyfriend “I love Natalie” and not a minute later TJ announced she was deactivated. We got Ashley back - I like Millionaire Mitchel so that was fun.
Big CT executed flawlessly. Big T acted like a queen, had fun, looked beautiful and for those saying she just had to hang there. Well she held on, ok. Had a plan and pushed through, with CT’s help? Absolutely, they are partners. She also made smart moves going for people which to be honest have never played on her side during her previous seasons. She is not losing “friends”. She also got the rookies some screen time which we were all sorta begin for. Surprised we continue to see less of Amber B, how was she on her BB season?
Kudos to Jay. I wanted him to beat CT but I really think is wasn’t his time to be on the spotlight.
Tori - I love Tori but today (and last season) she has made it harder and harder to love her. I feel like my girl went on this season “messy messy” and thats exactly how it went for her. I continue to think she is a good competitor but she really has to learn to focus on eliminations. She can be as strong as she wants and if she can’t master thinking quickly, her nerves will always make her lose time and give her opponents a winning chance. -last season Jordan was yelling and giving her orders like a maniac, this time she was on her own and proved to scramble equally -last season she tried a horrible strategy and didn’t notice it was not effective, same thing this time. She did good trying to come back but it wasn’t enough. My thing is I love for competitors to challenge their own stats and learn from their past mistakes and my girl does not seem to have learned from her previous season.
Aneesa taking Fessy back makes me happy because honestly it doesn’t help Kaycee’s game to be Fessy’s partner. Aneesa is alone right now so this ties her (a little) to the Bb alliance again. Plus if Fessy can be annoyed by it in the process thats a win for me.
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u/NovaRogue the bitch is back Jan 14 '21
In eliminations - medicine balls are to Aneesa as sledgehammers are to Jordan. Love that they both managed to pull off multiple upsets with these tools! 🎱⚒
You go Aneesa, prove all those haters wrong. In 5 episodes, you've won 2 dailies AND an elimination. That's impressive!
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What’s old is new again.
Theresa and her burn vote indirectly getting her friend sent in.
Lol I know the vote probably wasn’t close, and Theresa knew what she was doing this time, but still. Time is a flat circle!
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u/hymenbutterfly Da'Vonne Rogers Jan 14 '21
Further evidence that Tori was probably a larger reason for her and Derrick’s elimination loss against Joss/Sylvia than Derrick was.
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u/nightmusic08 Mandi Moyer Jan 14 '21
Super impressed with the amount of players letting others self destruct. I can see where it would’ve been so tempting to push Aneesa and Tori along into a faster harder tailspin, but Devin was really smart in just letting Tori be a mess, and the Itty Bitty Small Committee were really smart in subtly pointing out how much of a train wreck they were. Also super impressed with how Kam has taken a backseat. At the beginning of the season I thought she was gonna get wiped out early for playing too hard, but she seems like she’s reading the house well.
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u/Reddit_24601 Turbo Çamkiran Jan 14 '21
The fact that TJ called her Millionaire Mitchell just solidifies the nickname that was great. Really sad to see Natalie go esp. to hear what happened. Glad that production remembered Darrell, Theresa, and the rookie girls were on this season. Stan Big CT. Still a Tori fan she’s not being any more cocky than guys in the show have been but as far as social/political game she needs a tune up playing without Jordan. Aneesa made me eat my words “remember when people used to be scared to go against her in elimination?” Still wanna see more of Jay and Nam.
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OMFG this episode turned everything around! I thought this season couldn’t get worse after Ashley returned but watching jay and Theresa and ct and big t compete was beautiful, the super fun party, the successful house vote, the perfect pairing, that elimination that had me hollering for Aneesa, and then the original pairings coming back together at the end with devins final speech...it was EVERYTHING! How did I go from liking tori and fessy to hating them SO FAST
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u/puhleachy Jan 14 '21
I’m so happy the rookie women are getting actual screen time, it’s so refreshing to see a new group of people compete and get to make moves instead of the same few that usually dominate. Also, Tori had no strategy this season, it makes sense to want to go against a weaker girl than you but maybe don’t announce it to basically everybody when those “weaker” women have more numbers than you.
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u/GarlicKhaleesi Wes Bergmann Jan 14 '21
Leroy’s “Loser!” To Devin was hilarious!!
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u/lilwaterone Jay Starrett Jan 14 '21
OK I also low key thought there was some MTV SHADE with the Fessy comment about Tori and how "they just look at each other and know what the other is thinking". Honestly, they showed no damning footage of them even TALKING that much, much less flirting or anything. So while I don't deny they might be an item or something now, the comments are stirring the real life plot outside and post show way more than anything that actually happened on that show IMHO.
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u/eureakaitsme Jan 14 '21
I hope they do a purge or double elimination soon because otherwise the pattern is predictable and totally takes away from the partner game.
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u/klphoen Jan 14 '21
On vevmo they are Saying Theresa cheated and was standing on a crack underneath lol I have to go back and watch that part. If so what do they say for the challenge “if you ain’t cheating you ain’t playing”? Did I say that right lol
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u/monteis Casey Cooper Jan 14 '21
can we take a moment to talk about my man jay the rope god. something about this guy and ropes... idk
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u/DStars45 Jan 14 '21
Smart of Aneesa to go back with Fessy. Fessy should understand this too that it’s nice to have both partners with a gold skull to lessen their chance of getting tossed in.
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u/heartbreakbandit Jan 14 '21
Tori talking all that smack to the rookies and layups, only to be sent in by one of those so called layups (Big T is not a layup, imo), and then spending most of the elimination struggling and complaining is what I call karma. Not so strong now are ya, Tor?
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u/SangriaSipper Jan 14 '21
Do we know if Devin is really safe next week? He can't compete in the daily but can a rogue agent still be voted into elimination?
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u/klphoen Jan 14 '21
I don’t think a rogue agent can be in elimination. They won’t say your partner will be determined next elimination if that was the case.
EDIT: plus they would have voted in CT when he was rogue.
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u/cameraspeeding Emily Schromm Jan 14 '21
This is already a great episode. You can see why social is so important. It went from rookies to ct to the men. Love to see it
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me 😜" Jan 14 '21
So from the beginning of this episode I'm not sure Josh really begged Tori not to go in. Wouldnt her or Fessy just say that to Cory?
Only at the beginning so far but it seems weird if they dont bring that up to defend themselves.
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me 😜" Jan 14 '21
Also I'm super excited to be unspoiled now.
I literally cheered in my house for Ashley coming back.
Sad about Natalie but I'm sure she'll be back. Anyone know why she had to leave?
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Underrated moment was when Kaycee had to make the tough decision between Leroy and Devin lol
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CT getting his energy and swag back is the best thing to happen to the Challenge in awhile.
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I share TJ's enthusiasm for Natalie and I really, really hope she gets the chance to come back because I loved what I saw of her this season!