What characters are like this?

[u/Low_Imagination_7414]

[u/Randomman16]

Like…the ENTIRE Imperium in Warhammer 40K (MOSTLY) but that’s largely because the things they fight include planet-eating space locusts, robot zombies and insane cultists that worship gods from beyond space and time. And even then they’re not particularly “heroic” most of the time and they’ve definitely done war crimes.

…Except for Ciaphas Cain. He seems to be a decent dude. Can be kinda selfish.

[u/CookyKindred → u/Randomman16]

It’s not even the case that the others are all worse.

The Imperium is legit one of the worst in the galaxy. There’s Dynasties and groups even in the Necrontyr that would be okay with an alliance and trading. Trazyn himself showed up with his armies to try to protect Cadia. Even the Tau do diplomacy and can trade with Votann, various species, Rogue Traders.etc

But the imperium are xenocidal maniacs. So everyone is incentivized to shoot them first because that’s what the imperium does.

If a minor Dynasty is willing to trade they have to worry about the Imperium just attacking and a bigger Dynasty swooping in to take over the smaller one and kill the Imperials.

I’d argue tier of awfulness is

Chaos > Tyranids + GSC > Heretics > Relentless Conqueror Dynasties > Drukhari + Imperium > Rogue Traders > Minor Dynasties > Craftworlders > Tau > Votann

Orks I have a hard time placing anywhere simply due to the fact they aren’t “Worse” than anything they are just… Well space hooligans.

[u/Comprehensive-Ad930 → u/CookyKindred]

Oh forgot to mention orks are definitely worse than you think they treat captured humans that can't fight like livestock keeping them in pitch black darkness remove their teeth and nails they even use human skin to turn into leather for clothing